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Euro 2016 Rule Change

paulie8290paulie8290
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This sounds stupid to me surely the hosts can arrange their own friendly's if they want

Ian Abrahams ‏@BroadcastMoose 17m
Another rule change from UEFA ahead of Euro 2016 in France.France will be the first host nation to take part in a Championships qual phase.

Ian Abrahams ‏@BroadcastMoose 16m
France will still automatically qualify as hosts, but their group-stage games will serve as friendlies where no points will be awarded.

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  • MrLargoMrLargo
    That is absolutely ridiculous. What purpose does it possibly serve?! Reads like an April Fool's joke.
  • CallumcafcCallumcafc
    lol
  • LincsaddickLincsaddick
    MrLargo said:

    That is absolutely ridiculous. What purpose does it possibly serve?! Reads like an April Fool's joke.

    this: Just a money spinner and a way of keeping the French players on the boil dreamed up by Platini, who is of course .... French ..
  • Addickted4lifeAddickted4life
    Ridiculous.
  • McBobbinMcBobbin
    edited January 2014
    When Platini came in I couldn't have guessed that he'd be this bad
  • SwisdomSwisdom
    Lincsaddick said:

    MrLargo said:

    That is absolutely ridiculous. What purpose does it possibly serve?! Reads like an April Fool's joke.

    this: Just a money spinner and a way of keeping the French players on the boil dreamed up by Platini, who is of course .... French ..
    Spot on. If you're going to fix something try not to be so fucking obvious

    What next - Switzerland are announced as the next world up winner already - all game in the tournament will be for shits and giggles

    Corrupt is not the word! And don't get me started on Jack Warner

  • AbsurdistanAbsurdistan
    Platini Frog aid.
  • The Red RobinThe Red Robin
    So if there's no points at stake, what's in it for the opposition? What's to stop them just playing a weaker side?
  • stonewallpenaltystonewallpenalty
    Stupid.
  • Stu_of_KunmingStu_of_Kunming
    The Red Robin said:

    So if there's no points at stake, what's in it for the opposition? What's to stop them just playing a weaker side?

    More importantly, would France take the spot of a seeded team in the group?
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  • BedsaddickBedsaddick
    It's so ridiculous that I doubt for one minute it's going to happen .
  • Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    didn't they announce this at the draw back in December?

    makes sense to me. There is an odd number of teams in the group. This way all the other teams get a friendly when they would have been off, the small teams get a fairly big opponent to play, the hosts get to play games.
  • stackitstevestackitsteve
    Firstly, there is always one group with 1 team short.
    PLUS....who are France expected to play friendlies against when every other European team are playing qualifiers?
    (obviously teams from other continents but that would mean playing no European teams in the 2 years leading up to a European tournament)

    Not the worst idea IMO
  • ValleyGaryValleyGary
    edited January 2014
    I don't get why people find it so ridiculous?

    Makes sense as they won't effectively be in the group, they just play whoever in that group has a free fixture.
  • ForeverAddicktedForeverAddickted
    stackitsteve said:

    Firstly, there is always one group with 1 team short.
    PLUS....who are France expected to play friendlies against when every other European team are playing qualifiers?
    (obviously teams from other continents but that would mean playing no European teams in the 2 years leading up to a European tournament)

    Not the worst idea IMO

    Agreed... Also whenever a team goes in to host a major competition they slip right down the rankings because they're not playing consistantly so for example Brazil have been about 20th in the World because they've only played in two years
  • Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_ChEr_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch
    It's gone silly enough already with 24 countries now in the finals.
  • The Red RobinThe Red Robin
    Stu_of_Kunming said:

    The Red Robin said:

    So if there's no points at stake, what's in it for the opposition? What's to stop them just playing a weaker side?

    More importantly, would France take the spot of a seeded team in the group?
    As hosts they'll already be seeded so nothing changes in that respect.
  • The Red RobinThe Red Robin
    ForeverAddickted said:

    stackitsteve said:

    Firstly, there is always one group with 1 team short.
    PLUS....who are France expected to play friendlies against when every other European team are playing qualifiers?
    (obviously teams from other continents but that would mean playing no European teams in the 2 years leading up to a European tournament)

    Not the worst idea IMO

    Agreed... Also whenever a team goes in to host a major competition they slip right down the rankings because they're not playing consistantly so for example Brazil have been about 20th in the World because they've only played in two years
    Get rid of the ridiculous ranking system then.
  • paulie8290paulie8290
    The Red Robin said:

    Stu_of_Kunming said:

    The Red Robin said:

    So if there's no points at stake, what's in it for the opposition? What's to stop them just playing a weaker side?

    More importantly, would France take the spot of a seeded team in the group?
    As hosts they'll already be seeded so nothing changes in that respect.
    Think Stu meant in the qualifying group for instance with France now entering if we are low enough in the rankings we could be in a group with Germany or Spain just to qualify
  • CharltonparklaneCharltonparklane
    Suppose England and Ukraine end up in Fremch group and Ukraine need to draw to qualify in their last game against France, do you think France would put out their strongest side and more importantly would they try to avoid injury (like man utd when they lost 1-0 to West Ham in order for for them to stay up)
    It is in my opinion a farce.
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  • se9addickse9addick
    Charltonparklane said:

    Suppose England and Ukraine end up in Fremch group and Ukraine need to draw to qualify in their last game against France, do you think France would put out their strongest side and more importantly would they try to avoid injury (like man utd when they lost 1-0 to West Ham in order for for them to stay up)
    It is in my opinion a farce.

    Unless I'm mistaken no points would be awarded in the hypothetical France v Ukraine game so not sure the comparison stands up ?

    Doesn't seem too ridiculous - they aren't really in the group - they're just playing friendlies against the team that would be without an opponent on a given match day due to an odd number of teams in their group.

    The more surprising thing is that the French FA are up for it rather than taking the opportunity to go on a lucrative 2 year globe trotting adventure playing friendlies against South American teams in odd places.
  • MortimericianMortimerician
    Charltonparklane said:

    Suppose England and Ukraine end up in Fremch group and Ukraine need to draw to qualify in their last game against France, do you think France would put out their strongest side and more importantly would they try to avoid injury (like man utd when they lost 1-0 to West Ham in order for for them to stay up)
    It is in my opinion a farce.

    No. Points. Will. Be. Awarded.

    They could put their ladies team out, you're outraged because you can't understand it.
  • CharltonparklaneCharltonparklane
    Ok soz,, understoos, didnt read it all about no points.
    Dope
  • TheBrand09TheBrand09
    se9addick said:

    Charltonparklane said:

    Suppose England and Ukraine end up in Fremch group and Ukraine need to draw to qualify in their last game against France, do you think France would put out their strongest side and more importantly would they try to avoid injury (like man utd when they lost 1-0 to West Ham in order for for them to stay up)
    It is in my opinion a farce.

    Unless I'm mistaken no points would be awarded in the hypothetical France v Ukraine game so not sure the comparison stands up ?

    Doesn't seem too ridiculous - they aren't really in the group - they're just playing friendlies against the team that would be without an opponent on a given match day due to an odd number of teams in their group.

    The more surprising thing is that the French FA are up for it rather than taking the opportunity to go on a lucrative 2 year globe trotting adventure playing friendlies against South American teams in odd places.

    Very much this.
    Host nations, do well in tournaments if they are a major nation. It gives them order, playing these games but. The opponent might not even be challenging. ( Albania, Scotland, Luxembourg). Would cost them a lot of money to be made.

    Either way the French must be delighted, there just going to be able to qualify. Without needing to cheat or performance come back results in the play offs.
  • stackitstevestackitsteve
    Forget all the 'France in a group' stuff.

    Just think of it that France will play friendlies against the team that are free that week from the group with only 5 teams.

    If they had just said that to begin with I don't think there would be so much fuss.
  • AlgarveaddickAlgarveaddick
    At various times during the competition's history there have been odd numbers competing, and three times we have had joint hosts, where both qualify as right and that never seemed to upset the applecart? It's just a bit "odd" that this particular new initiative just happens to pop up when France are hosting ( for the third time - although 1960 was very different, I grant you ) and the top bod at UEFA happens to be a Frenchman...

    That said, I do agree that it's not a big advantage for them, as long as the games do not suddenly count as equal to a competitive game when working out the rankings.

    As for lucrative friendlies? Well I am not sure that France v Colombia would quite have the appeal of Brazil v Germany in a far flung venue, wherever that may be?
  • smudge7946smudge7946
    What about Scotland? The euro 2016 is a conpetition for the nations of Europe. If Scotland vote against nationhood in the referendum, this must be respected by UEFA and the scotch not be allowed to take part.
  • Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    smudge7946 said:

    What about Scotland? The euro 2016 is a conpetition for the nations of Europe. If Scotland vote against nationhood in the referendum, this must be respected by UEFA and the scotch not be allowed to take part.

    In which case by that logic neither can England, Wales or Northern Ireland : - )

  • se9addickse9addick
    smudge7946 said:

    What about Scotland? The euro 2016 is a conpetition for the nations of Europe. If Scotland vote against nationhood in the referendum, this must be respected by UEFA and the scotch not be allowed to take part.

    Scotland is already a country; that's not what the referendum is about.
  • TelMc32TelMc32
    smudge7946 said:

    What about Scotland? The euro 2016 is a conpetition for the nations of Europe. If Scotland vote against nationhood in the referendum, this must be respected by UEFA and the scotch not be allowed to take part.

    I'm worried. Are you of voting age?? ;-/
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