Yh, was about 10 years ago, fckin fruitloop, see him shadow box the pillars at St lukes, but actually connecting, started drinking up the Fox, lot of other distractions in in there at the time, think he was of of the glue for while, but always doing something. Shame as he's quite a caring fella when not on another planet. #glueysteve
I haven't seen Steven F for a while as i moved out of the village about 2 years ago. He was a bit of a nuisance at times and one to be avoided. Remember him putting his fist through one of the panels of the Bugle's door one night for no reason.
Don't remember Paddy's barbers. I always got my hair cut at Andrew's. Originally at Wellington Gardens before he moved onto Charlton Church Lane. He used to put laquer on your hair even if you had a skinhead
Andrews, Wellington Gardens, is the one that I always used when I lived in Victoria Way. Alternated between that one and Charlton Village when I moved to Cherry Orchard.
Never forget coming home from school one day and seeing one of the fellas who used to frequent the benches by the co-op and crossing on 15 to 1 on C4.....all smartened up - haha
Don't remember Paddy's barbers. I always got my hair cut at Andrew's. Originally at Wellington Gardens before he moved onto Charlton Church Lane. He used to put laquer on your hair even if you had a skinhead
Andrews, Wellington Gardens, is the one that I always used when I lived in Victoria Way. Alternated between that one and Charlton Village when I moved to Cherry Orchard.
Don't remember Paddy's barbers. I always got my hair cut at Andrew's. Originally at Wellington Gardens before he moved onto Charlton Church Lane. He used to put laquer on your hair even if you had a skinhead
Andrews, Wellington Gardens, is the one that I always used when I lived in Victoria Way. Alternated between that one and Charlton Village when I moved to Cherry
My sister always had the job of takeing me to the barbers in wellington gardens ,one day she asked the barber (called Sid ) to give me a crew cut which was all the rage circa 1954 well it was a disaster I looked like a hedgehog so on the way home she asked a boyfriend called Roy hollands to try to recut it well he tried his best but now it was even worst. When we eventualy plucked up courage to go home my mother gave both of us a clip around the ear . After that I was always taken to speranzas the italian barbers in the woolwich rd.
Don't remember Paddy's barbers. I always got my hair cut at Andrew's. Originally at Wellington Gardens before he moved onto Charlton Church Lane. He used to put laquer on your hair even if you had a skinhead
Andrews, Wellington Gardens, is the one that I always used when I lived in Victoria Way. Alternated between that one and Charlton Village when I moved to Cherry Orchard.
Don't remember Paddy's barbers. I always got my hair cut at Andrew's. Originally at Wellington Gardens before he moved onto Charlton Church Lane. He used to put laquer on your hair even if you had a skinhead
Andrews, Wellington Gardens, is the one that I always used when I lived in Victoria Way. Alternated between that one and Charlton Village when I moved to Cherry
My sister always had the job of takeing me to the barbers in wellington gardens ,one day she asked the barber (called Sid ) to give me a crew cut which was all the rage circa 1954 well it was a disaster I looked like a hedgehog so on the way home she asked a boyfriend called Roy hollands to try to recut it well he tried his best but now it was even worst. When we eventualy plucked up courage to go home my mother gave both of us a clip around the ear . After that I was always taken to speranzas the italian barbers in the woolwich rd.
Hi daughter, Anne Speranza, was in my class at our lady of grace school.
Anyone remember Steve ferdinando the glue sniffer? Is he still alive?
He is definitely still alive, don`t know how though lol! He was in prison again for a good while but heard he is out and about again. Bloody quality footballer, he could have played pro, what a waste!
I used to live on the same street as Nathan Pearson (Ginger with national health glasses) he turned into a car tea-leaf who couldn't keep his hands off other peoples motors. Spent most of his time in the nick and used to always go back to the boss and ask for his job back.
I still remember the day Dave King had to tell him there was no job for him anymore because he couldn't getting locked up and expecting to walk back in. I think he turned to every drug known to man in the end.
Great memory there Tom, I was born in 74 and remember the fishmongers now you mention it, I heard Les Chapman won the lottery in the mid 90's but kept it very hush hush too.
I also remember climbing over the back of the sweetshop to get the empty Corona (Soft drink, not mexican beer) bottles to get the 10p deposit.
And of course Billy Paton running the Charlton park cafe next to the Putting Green and the other one by the Football change rooms on Sundays. Always stopped in there during summer for a can of Panda Cola and some 1/2p Mojos
Here's a photo for you leefender - not sure exactly when this taken but I'm guessing before our time, late 40s or early 50s. Much of it still recognisable though.
Very nice Tom, I remember years ago (Probably 25 years) I used to hang around with some fella whose Mum and dad were temp landlords of the Bugle, There was a fantastic painting of the Hornfair in its original form. Would love to see that picture again
To try and brighten things up, I thought I'd bump this thread as I've been doing a bit of research on business in The Village over the years and thought there would be a few people on here who would like to share in it.
This all started through talking to people in the newly refurbished White Swan and them posting a turn of the century photo of the pub on their Facebook page. We have also recently lost the last of the 'old' Village businesses, Bowes the shoe repairers, which has been in the same location for over 100 years.
In 1923, there was quite a mixture of businesses in The Village, including a 'Servants Registration Office' at Number 59. The two pubs were known as 'The Swan Hotel' (not the White Swan) and 'The Bugle Horn Hotel'. What is fascinating is that even in 1923, a number of the shops were serving the same purpose that they do nowadays - for example, number 9 was and is a chemist, number 11 was and is a confectioner (sort of) but in addition to these, we had two greengrocers, two butchers, a grocers, a wet fish shop, a cycle works and a 'dental manufacturing company', as well as Bowes Shoe Shop at number 33.
By 1945, we had a branch of Lloyds Bank located at number 1 (where the new Gents outfitters is located), a tailors shop at number 7, a Post Office at number 17 (which was there until relatively recently), a watch repairer at number 43 as well as the usual mixture of 'normal' shops for the time. The Swan had become the White Swan by this time.
The bank had gone by 1961 and the Village began to probably be recognisable to a few of our older posters on here -Hardings Greengrocer, Sandemans Sweet Shop, Wells Fishmonger, Deeks Hardware, Mr Jones the Sub-Postmaster, Hedley Vicars Butchers, Seppings Butchers, Tip-Top Bakery, as well as the two pubs still going strong.
By 1973, all the above shops were still going but who remembers Mobi-Deque's Record Shop, E Coombes Bookmakers, Lansdowne Lane Motors and Pricerite Grocers?
I've attached the photo from the White Swan FB page below with acknowledgements. The Village looked a different place then for sure.
Don't remember Paddy's barbers. I always got my hair cut at Andrew's. Originally at Wellington Gardens before he moved onto Charlton Church Lane. He used to put laquer on your hair even if you had a skinhead
Andrew's still working in the shop, and he still does this.
Thanks for bumping the thread Tom_Hovi and for the very interesting information. My reason for posting is because of the mention of Mobi-Deque. The name of the guy that run the business will come to me but he used to have the shop as a front for his real business and love of being a DJ. Back in the early 1970's he was one of the resident DJ's at the Royal Standard Pub which had the back lounge with music with the DJ's situated in a booth with window into the lounge. As I remember all the tables had internal telephones where you could ring other tables. Very handy for pulling crumpet :0). What was his name ???
Thanks for bumping the thread Tom_Hovi and for the very interesting information. My reason for posting is because of the mention of Mobi-Deque. The name of the guy that run the business will come to me but he used to have the shop as a front for his real business and love of being a DJ. Back in the early 1970's he was one of the resident DJ's at the Royal Standard Pub which had the back lounge with music with the DJ's situated in a booth with window into the lounge. As I remember all the tables had internal telephones where you could ring other tables. Very handy for pulling crumpet :0). What was his name ???
Yes, I remember the disco at the Royal Standard. As for his name, this is going to bug me all day now. He was a DJ and as well as records, I think he did make and sell DJ equipment, decks and the like. His name will come to me eventually!
Thanks for bumping the thread Tom_Hovi and for the very interesting information. My reason for posting is because of the mention of Mobi-Deque. The name of the guy that run the business will come to me but he used to have the shop as a front for his real business and love of being a DJ. Back in the early 1970's he was one of the resident DJ's at the Royal Standard Pub which had the back lounge with music with the DJ's situated in a booth with window into the lounge. As I remember all the tables had internal telephones where you could ring other tables. Very handy for pulling crumpet :0). What was his name ???
By 1973, all the above shops were still going but who remembers Mobi-Deque's Record Shop, E Coombes Bookmakers, Lansdowne Lane Motors and Pricerite Grocers?
Thanks for bumping the thread Tom_Hovi and for the very interesting information. My reason for posting is because of the mention of Mobi-Deque. The name of the guy that run the business will come to me but he used to have the shop as a front for his real business and love of being a DJ. Back in the early 1970's he was one of the resident DJ's at the Royal Standard Pub which had the back lounge with music with the DJ's situated in a booth with window into the lounge. As I remember all the tables had internal telephones where you could ring other tables. Very handy for pulling crumpet :0). What was his name ???
That used to be great fun using those phones... as you say, very useful
Thanks for bumping the thread Tom_Hovi and for the very interesting information. My reason for posting is because of the mention of Mobi-Deque. The name of the guy that run the business will come to me but he used to have the shop as a front for his real business and love of being a DJ. Back in the early 1970's he was one of the resident DJ's at the Royal Standard Pub which had the back lounge with music with the DJ's situated in a booth with window into the lounge. As I remember all the tables had internal telephones where you could ring other tables. Very handy for pulling crumpet :0). What was his name ???
The Standard also had a good live group at the beginning of the 70's who I think we're called Edwick Rumbold (nothing to do with Grace Brothers). They did mainly Motown songs and especially good at covering The Temptations. And I remember those phones too.
Thanks for bumping the thread Tom_Hovi and for the very interesting information. My reason for posting is because of the mention of Mobi-Deque. The name of the guy that run the business will come to me but he used to have the shop as a front for his real business and love of being a DJ. Back in the early 1970's he was one of the resident DJ's at the Royal Standard Pub which had the back lounge with music with the DJ's situated in a booth with window into the lounge. As I remember all the tables had internal telephones where you could ring other tables. Very handy for pulling crumpet :0). What was his name ???
I used to live in Springfield Grove and remember Paddys the hairdressers very well. He used to give you a toy gun to play with, if you were were nervous, that had caps that exploded making a haircut fun. There used to be a sweet shop in Landsdowne Lane that sold Jubbleys and Qudos (not sure of spelling). About 10 yrs ago I had a cottage in Cornwall and had a carpet fitted and chatting to the carpet guy it turned out his parents owned the shop in Landsdowne Lane!! My mother usd to take me to the post office sometimes to buy me a Dinkey toy car and I built up a collection but they were never as good as the Corgi, more expensive, versions.. My mother worked in the White Swan and also the Fish and Chip shop opposite in the early 60's and before then I think it was Father Whale? from St Luke's who ran the 2Ks and groups played there. I heard that Billy J Kramer and Eric Clapton played there but I'm not sue it's true. That would have been the late 50's. The bike shop next to the Bugle was a must go place and we used to, as kids, run into the bar of the Bugle and touch the ancient suit of armour figure in the corner and run out again before being caught. Simple pleasures! Bert Harding used to be a character when serving in the green grocers - he use to mumble all the time under his breath and take no notice of whatever was said to him! A great charatcer of the Village. There used to be a grocery shop opposite the drinking fountain at the top of Church Lane and that delivered your groceries in a cardboard box on the front of a fixed wheel bike ridden by a young guy who must have been very fit. He used to bring the box to your door and it sometimes weighed quite a lot! The predessessor of the Cottage Cafe in Charlton Park near the running track was also very pleasant and the current owners have done wonders in reopening it of late. Mr Jenkins and his two Corgi dogs used to live in Charlton House and I'm sure he thought he was royalty. Friends used to catch the fish in the pond in the gardens at night and return them the next evening! The Evening Standard and Evening News were sold by Mrs Chugger for years at the top of Victoria Way but her son Tom never liked the name and I believe changed his surname to Sullivan as soon as he could. So much to remember in so little space so I will move on for now.....
I used to live in Springfield Grove and remember Paddys the hairdressers very well. He used to give you a toy gun to play with, if you were were nervous, that had caps that exploded making a haircut fun. There used to be a sweet shop in Landsdowne Lane that sold Jubbleys and Qudos (not sure of spelling). About 10 yrs ago I had a cottage in Cornwall and had a carpet fitted and chatting to the carpet guy it turned out his parents owned the shop in Landsdowne Lane!! My mother usd to take me to the post office sometimes to buy me a Dinkey toy car and I built up a collection but they were never as good as the Corgi, more expensive, versions.. My mother worked in the White Swan and also the Fish and Chip shop opposite in the early 60's and before then I think it was Father Whale? from St Luke's who ran the 2Ks and groups played there. I heard that Billy J Kramer and Eric Clapton played there but I'm not sue it's true. That would have been the late 50's. The bike shop next to the Bugle was a must go place and we used to, as kids, run into the bar of the Bugle and touch the ancient suit of armour figure in the corner and run out again before being caught. Simple pleasures! Bert Harding used to be a character when serving in the green grocers - he use to mumble all the time under his breath and take no notice of whatever was said to him! A great charatcer of the Village. There used to be a grocery shop opposite the drinking fountain at the top of Church Lane and that delivered your groceries in a cardboard box on the front of a fixed wheel bike ridden by a young guy who must have been very fit. He used to bring the box to your door and it sometimes weighed quite a lot! The predessessor of the Cottage Cafe in Charlton Park near the running track was also very pleasant and the current owners have done wonders in reopening it of late. Mr Jenkins and his two Corgi dogs used to live in Charlton House and I'm sure he thought he was royalty. Friends used to catch the fish in the pond in the gardens at night and return them the next evening! The Evening Standard and Evening News were sold by Mrs Chugger for years at the top of Victoria Way but her son Tom never liked the name and I believe changed his surname to Sullivan as soon as he could. So much to remember in so little space so I will move on for now.....
Used to live there as well, as a few others on here, and played football on the lower playground on a Saturday\Sunday and drink at the fox and the Standard. Used to hang around with kerry Hill, Mick Mccarthey, and Mick Jackaman. used to meet up withBooby Paine who had a red red escort van, and was the first lad to pass his driving test in our group. I was into Hendrix, and the Cream, everyone else was into Tamla and reggae, I had long hair and went to art college, Went to school with Tony Swain who I did not always see eye to eye with. Roger Parnell lived on the same floor as me in Langhorne, although he was a couple of years younger than myself and knew my brother Graham better who Tom Hovi on here knows .Remember going to the standard on a Saturday night then to the pictures at Woolwich for the late show. Remember going to the Roxy at the standard and seeing the soft porn film 17 . Very male dominated, hardly remember speaking to a girl till I was about 14, then I could not keep away from them!. Joanne, Sonya, Suesan Smith i wonder whatever happened to them.!...... I wonder what happened to all of them. Still listening to Hendrix though!
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Shame as he's quite a caring fella when not on another planet.
#glueysteve
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I still remember the day Dave King had to tell him there was no job for him anymore because he couldn't getting locked up and expecting to walk back in. I think he turned to every drug known to man in the end.
I remember years ago (Probably 25 years) I used to hang around with some fella whose Mum and dad were temp landlords of the Bugle, There was a fantastic painting of the Hornfair in its original form. Would love to see that picture again
This all started through talking to people in the newly refurbished White Swan and them posting a turn of the century photo of the pub on their Facebook page. We have also recently lost the last of the 'old' Village businesses, Bowes the shoe repairers, which has been in the same location for over 100 years.
In 1923, there was quite a mixture of businesses in The Village, including a 'Servants Registration Office' at Number 59. The two pubs were known as 'The Swan Hotel' (not the White Swan) and 'The Bugle Horn Hotel'. What is fascinating is that even in 1923, a number of the shops were serving the same purpose that they do nowadays - for example, number 9 was and is a chemist, number 11 was and is a confectioner (sort of) but in addition to these, we had two greengrocers, two butchers, a grocers, a wet fish shop, a cycle works and a 'dental manufacturing company', as well as Bowes Shoe Shop at number 33.
By 1945, we had a branch of Lloyds Bank located at number 1 (where the new Gents outfitters is located), a tailors shop at number 7, a Post Office at number 17 (which was there until relatively recently), a watch repairer at number 43 as well as the usual mixture of 'normal' shops for the time. The Swan had become the White Swan by this time.
The bank had gone by 1961 and the Village began to probably be recognisable to a few of our older posters on here -Hardings Greengrocer, Sandemans Sweet Shop, Wells Fishmonger, Deeks Hardware, Mr Jones the Sub-Postmaster, Hedley Vicars Butchers, Seppings Butchers, Tip-Top Bakery, as well as the two pubs still going strong.
By 1973, all the above shops were still going but who remembers Mobi-Deque's Record Shop, E Coombes Bookmakers, Lansdowne Lane Motors and Pricerite Grocers?
I've attached the photo from the White Swan FB page below with acknowledgements. The Village looked a different place then for sure.
There used to be a grocery shop opposite the drinking fountain at the top of Church Lane and that delivered your groceries in a cardboard box on the front of a fixed wheel bike ridden by a young guy who must have been very fit. He used to bring the box to your door and it sometimes weighed quite a lot! The predessessor of the Cottage Cafe in Charlton Park near the running track was also very pleasant and the current owners have done wonders in reopening it of late. Mr Jenkins and his two Corgi dogs used to live in Charlton House and I'm sure he thought he was royalty. Friends used to catch the fish in the pond in the gardens at night and return them the next evening! The Evening Standard and Evening News were sold by Mrs Chugger for years at the top of Victoria Way but her son Tom never liked the name and I believe changed his surname to Sullivan as soon as he could. So much to remember in so little space so I will move on for now.....
Very male dominated, hardly remember speaking to a girl till I was about 14, then I could not keep away from them!.
Joanne, Sonya, Suesan Smith i wonder whatever happened to them.!...... I wonder what happened to all of them.
Still listening to Hendrix though!
Sunday morning, jumpers for goalposts. Mid to late sixties.
I remember big Rog was there.