.......when they've not just lost but been absolutely stuffed.
I used to hate losing but would be positively embarrassed if the team I was playing for got a mauling. And I wasn't even being paid to do my best.
Yet how many times do we see at the end of the game players laughing and joking with opposition players they might know? Almost as if they can't wait 'til they have a drink with their mates in the privacy of the players lounge.
And the most recent example of this? At the end of the Newcastle v Spurs game Taylor trudges off looking somewhat mortified by what's happened. Meantime Sissoko is making Lloris, Kaboul and Capoue crack up with his latest stand up routine.
Where's the pride?
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Difficult to imagine Chopper Harris having a chuckle with Billy Bremner in the same circs.
From start to finish in any sport you give your best but when the final whistle goes it's over and you should chill out.
Sport is there to be enjoyed when played and not to be agonised about afterwards.
And money does have a big say in it because fans pay the players' wages and expect them to try their best. And clearly Newcastle simply didn't turn up.
Ajdarevic looked genuinely gutted after Saturday's game, maybe he's a good actor, but to me it looked like someone who cared
Fans pay the wages? Ha! In the 1950's maybe. Man Utd pay out £4m in wages each week. That, under your old fashioned beliefs would make an Old Trafford season ticket cost about £4,500.
And you do lose quite regularly. On here but you'll never admit it!
But maybe show a bit of common and at least give it a minute or two after your pals team have just taken you to the woodshed before you start high fiving him.
Us fans can be a sensitive bunch when we've just taken a spanking at home.
Fans want to see the players hurting as much as they are, if they don't feel it, at least fake it.................
His point was that anyone could act up after a game and make a real show of how gutted they were to lose, that's not hard at all.
But he said the reaction of the really top players after a loss was that they would put in even greater efforts in the next week of training to try and lift the whole group to a better performance and would generally take a disproportionate amount of the blame for the loss because they expected so much of themselves.
When I lose a Sunday league match I usually have the raving. And it happens nearly every sunday.
It simply doesn't happen. Could it just be because the player is in the comfort zone of knowing that he won't get sacked in the morning?
Laughing and joking. It could be worse, the player could have falsely accused someone of using racist language and had them thrown out of the stadium and arrested.
Its a not too dissimilar notion to your everyday person having a shite day at the office and then going for a beer straight afterwards.
If we were to be relegated, then I would not expect or want to see players in good spirits about it.
But I'm just saying that's probably why it happens, and in reference to your comments, I think you'll find in the case of many footballers, the word professional definitely need not apply!
A bit more than not gone their way. I don't see what could be funny about 50,000 pissed off fans who paid their money. If it was a narrow defeat then it could be acceptable but i find it amazing that a player could take it so lightly immediately after the final whistle.
Another thing that would annoy me (if i supported them) is when you see some players swapping shirts as they walk off at half time. It only really happens at the top level and i know these big clubs all have spare clean shirts they change into but as a fan do you really want to see your players swapping shirts mid match.
I understand a few of the opposing points made, but if you lose a game and can laugh about it directly afterwards, then that signals to me that the required effort was not put in during the match.
You can't turn it on and off like a light switch. Newcastle have very passionate fans, they pay to watch an honest game of football and the players indirectly mug them off. In most circumstances that kind of thing would be taking the p*ss out the manager, but pardew doesn't count.