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QPR announce £177m debt!!

Queens Park Rangers are facing a record-breaking fine - even if they are promoted this season - after recording a huge £65.4million loss, taking their overall net debt to £177m.

The Championship club have posted their financial report for the year ending May 2013, and the document underlines the heavy spending of co-owner Tony Fernandes' reign.

But as a result of their failures on the pitch, QPR are now facing major ramifications under Financial Fair Play regulations, even if they are promoted back in to the Barclays Premier League this season.

Under Football League Financial Fair Play rules, the Loftus Road club are almost certain to be hit with a transfer embargo should they fail to secure promotion this season.

And Rangers could face a fine in-excess of £40million even if they are promoted this summer.

The club have recorded a net debt of £177million - a massive increase from £91.4m the previous year.

Turnover dropped from £64m to £60.6m, but wage costs sky-rocketed from £58.5m to £78m.

The news casts a huge cloud over the club's future and, in the report, Fernandes wrote: 'Clearly in 2012-13 the club did not meet its performance targets and was relegated from the Premier League.

'A critical driver of any club’s value is its presence in the Premier League, and the club is focused on regaining its Premier League status as quickly as possible.

'The financial results reflect the club’s focus on trying to achieve on-pitch success.

'When, alongside my business partners, I purchased a majority shareholding in the club in August 2011, my goal was to turn QPR into an established Premier League club.

'Being relegated was obviously not part of our plans, but our focus and determination to achieve our long-term goals has not diminished.

'During the summer 2013 transfer window we have worked to put together a squad of players we believe will give us a good chance of achieving promotion back to the Premier League.

'At the time of writing, we have made a good start to the 2013-14 season and we remain confident that under the guidance of our manager, Harry Redknapp, we have a squad capable of challenging for promotion.

'We are confident that the 2013-14 season will also see the club continue to make progress towards achieving its short, medium and long-term off-pitch targets.

'The group’s key short-term objective is to regain its Premier League status. The board believes that some restructuring of the playing squad is required in order to achieve this. However, they are conscious of the need for expenditure to be closely monitored and controlled.

'The directors, based on cash flow projections prepared by management and through confirmation of continuing support from the groups’ main shareholders and creditors, have a reasonable expectation that the company and the group have adequate resources to continue in existence for the foreseeable future.'



Their wage bill alone is £18m more than their turnover!!
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  • What would our yearly wage bill be roughly?
  • Threpence apenny guvnor. Blimey they are some crazy numbers!!
  • 3.5m guess
  • QPR's wage bill is higher than Dortmund's.
  • £78m in wages!! For that bunch?
  • I don't understand giving a club a huge fine, when they already have a huge debt - how's that going to solve anything.
  • quite ridiculous .. but probably a tax write off for AirAsia
  • Does the fine count for losses in the following year? If so, it's a quick route to bankruptcy! :)
  • I don't understand giving a club a huge fine, when they already have a huge debt - how's that going to solve anything.

    This, how can you fine a business £40million that is £177miliion in debt.
  • They are fined only if they are promoted. The £40m fine comes out of the supposed £120m+ windfall of promotion.

    Unbelievable wage bill
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  • IA said:

    They are fined only if they are promoted. The £40m fine comes out of the supposed £120m+ windfall of promotion.

    Unbelievable wage bill

    It say "even" if they are promoted above?
  • IA said:

    They are fined only if they are promoted. The £40m fine comes out of the supposed £120m+ windfall of promotion.


    The thing is, a club rarely sees any of that 'windfall'. It all goes out the door to players and agents.

    Let's say they get 120m, their wage bill is 78m leaving 42m. They'd have to pay a 40m fine leaving 2m and that's before they've even bought any players. Plus that wage bill would probably rise.
  • IA said:

    They are fined only if they are promoted. The £40m fine comes out of the supposed £120m+ windfall of promotion.

    Unbelievable wage bill

    It say "even" if they are promoted above?
    If they're not, they face a transfer embargo.
  • Who thinks the league will bottle it and just give them a slap on the wrist/token fine?
  • IAIA
    edited March 2014

    IA said:

    They are fined only if they are promoted. The £40m fine comes out of the supposed £120m+ windfall of promotion.


    The thing is, a club rarely sees any of that 'windfall'. It all goes out the door to players and agents.

    Let's say they get 120m, their wage bill is 78m leaving 42m. They'd have to pay a 40m fine leaving 2m and that's before they've even bought any players. Plus that wage bill would probably rise.
    Yeah, that's why I said "supposed" and why I can understand if RD isn't desperate to pump money into CAFC to get to the PL. Worrying though that a wage bill of £78m+ could be inevitable for PL strugglers

    Mike, I see what you're saying. I think they've got the wording wrong.
    If promoted: fine
    If not promoted: transfer embargo
    Maybe I've misunderstood the FFP rules.
  • David Conn ‏@david_conn 2h
    QPR accounts state that the club's continued "operational existence" depends on the financial support of Tony Fernandes and the other owners.

    Really? : - )
  • I don't understand giving a club a huge fine, when they already have a huge debt - how's that going to solve anything.

    Pour encourager les autres - no carrot -just a big stick.

    I don't understand giving a club a huge fine, when they already have a huge debt - how's that going to solve anything.

    This, how can you fine a business £40million that is £177miliion in debt.
    Easily - It's then up to the principals to raise the additional capital or the business goes bust.
  • Tony Fernandes is a successful and rich businessman, but he's not that successful and rich, he doesn't have an unlimited amount of money to throw at the club, I would have thought he would be near his limit by now...
  • Easily - It's then up to the principals to raise the additional capital or the business goes bust.


    I assume by raising it you mean borrowing it, therefore it adds to the debt. Even if a director put his hand in his pocket and slapped £40million on the table he would want it back therefore it is a loan thus added to the debt.

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  • David Conn ‏@david_conn 2h
    QPR accounts state that the club's continued "operational existence" depends on the financial support of Tony Fernandes and the other owners.

    Really? : - )

    Is it necessary to put a smiley face in every post you make, 99% of the time its neither witty or funny...
  • David Conn ‏@david_conn 2h
    QPR accounts state that the club's continued "operational existence" depends on the financial support of Tony Fernandes and the other owners.

    Really? : - )

    Is it necessary to put a smiley face in every post you make, 99% of the time its neither witty or funny...
    Hello, I'd like to say it was good to have you back trolling again but it's not.

    Bye bye
  • You forgot the smiley face Henry :-)
  • Tony Fernandes is a successful and rich businessman, but he's not that successful and rich, he doesn't have an unlimited amount of money to throw at the club, I would have thought he would be near his limit by now...

    Fernandes owns something like 67% whilst the Mittal family owns the remaining 33%. The Mittal's are worth around £16.5 billion, so there's still a lot of money to throw at the club.
  • You forgot the smiley face Henry :-)

    Careful, you put a : - ) in there so don/seeaddick will be all over you. : - )

  • IA said:

    They are fined only if they are promoted. The £40m fine comes out of the supposed £120m+ windfall of promotion.


    The thing is, a club rarely sees any of that 'windfall'. It all goes out the door to players and agents.

    Let's say they get 120m, their wage bill is 78m leaving 42m. They'd have to pay a 40m fine leaving 2m and that's before they've even bought any players. Plus that wage bill would probably rise.
    Well, perhaps they might think about offloading some of their overpaid players - that should raise some cash. Perhaps they don't buy anyone - or only spend a couple of million (imagine if we had that much to spend!). Take a season in the premiership, sort their finances out, and come back to the championship on a clean(er) slate.

  • edited March 2014
    IA said:

    IA said:

    They are fined only if they are promoted. The £40m fine comes out of the supposed £120m+ windfall of promotion.


    The thing is, a club rarely sees any of that 'windfall'. It all goes out the door to players and agents.

    Let's say they get 120m, their wage bill is 78m leaving 42m. They'd have to pay a 40m fine leaving 2m and that's before they've even bought any players. Plus that wage bill would probably rise.
    Yeah, that's why I said "supposed" and why I can understand if RD isn't desperate to pump money into CAFC to get to the PL. Worrying though that a wage bill of £78m+ could be inevitable for PL strugglers

    Mike, I see what you're saying. I think they've got the wording wrong.
    If promoted: fine
    If not promoted: transfer embargo
    Maybe I've misunderstood the FFP rules.
    Extract from football-league.co.uk/page/FLExplainedDetail/0,,10794~2748246,00.html

    i. Sanctions for clubs remaining in the Championship

    Clubs that fail to comply with the Financial Fair Play regulations (from December 1st 2014) will be subject to a transfer embargo. This embargo will come in to force ahead of the subsequent transfer window beginning on January 1, 2015.

    The embargo will remain in place until the club is able to lodge financial information that demonstrates that it meets the Financial Fair Play regulations (either for the previous reporting period or a future reporting period).

    ii. Sanctions for clubs promoted to the Premier League

    Clubs promoted to the Premier League will be required to provide Financial Fair Play information for their promotion season by December 1. Any club found to have breached Financial Fair Play regulations will be required to pay a 'Fair Play Tax' on the excess by which the club failed to fulfil the Fair Play requirement, ranging from 1% on the first £100,000 to 100% on anything over £10m.


    ALSO:-

    Transition arrangements for clubs relegated from the Premier League

    Clubs relegated from the Premier League will not be subject to sanctions in their first season in the Championship as long as they have met their financial obligations under Premier League regulations. They would, however, be subject to the potential of a Fair Play Tax if they achieved promotion in their first season in the Championship whilst not complying with the FFP regulations.
  • What a surprise. Harry has ****ed yet another club.
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    Andy Street ‏@ADGStreet 7h
    It's likely, based on the last two years and the reduced revenue in the Championship that QPR could be £250m in debt by end of 13/14.
  • David Conn ‏@david_conn 2h
    QPR accounts state that the club's continued "operational existence" depends on the financial support of Tony Fernandes and the other owners.

    Really? : - )

    Is it necessary to put a smiley face in every post you make, 99% of the time its neither witty or funny...
    Hello, I'd like to say it was good to have you back trolling again but it's not.

    Bye bye
    I fail to see how I am trolling, it was a legitimate question.

    So you have the power to ban me, even though you are not a moderator? .
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