Jose Riga -- He must be doing something right
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I came away from Bramall Lane thinking we were bang in trouble, would struggle to get another win all season and I genuinely believe that under Powell we'd have gone down.
So yes Riga is definitely doing something right, and if we stay up at Millwall's expense then even better.5 -
That defensive solidity is impressive. Up front, we're actually scoring less than half what we managed under Powell so not the finished article at all. Still a work in progress, but he's exceeded expectations.4
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True, but after Sheff Utd game it was one of the lowest feelings as being a CAFC, like wycombe at home/Millwall 4-0 all over again.AFKABartram said:I think there are a hell of a lot of 'searching for conclusions' that simply are not there imo.
As a result, Riga's 'strengths' are getting exaggerated, as are Powell's 'weaknesses'.
Let's just hope this keeps up, and then come the end of the season we can do some proper looking back comparatives between the two regimes.
Just three weeks later i feel confident again. Got to give JR and the players enormous credit for that.5 -
I honestly think Powell going will have released a lot of tension in the dressing room, the players new something was up and that it was surely only a matter of time before he was gone. Once it was done that pressure was relieved, and the players could focus on impressing the new guy.
As much as I wish Powell was still our manager, I think that under Roland's ownership it was doing neither the club nor Powell any good him being so. It didn't have to be that way, but sadly it was, and now at least we seem to have another guy who is prepared to make his own judgement of the players hoisted into the club and refuse to play them if he wishes.3 -
More than 1/2 points achieved so far (thanks Muttley, its been a long week). Something's working that's for sure.
I love CP as a player, manager and football man, but I think I'm developing a soft spot for this sharp suit wearing Belgian tactician.
Appreciating the work of both is possible I think, they are not mutually exclusive opinions.5 -
11 points from 7 games is good - but not quite 2 points a game.0
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Damn. I knew what I meant, and that's what's important!MuttleyCAFC said:11 points from 7 games is good - but not quite 2 points a game.
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I was devastated when SCP was sacked and was convinced that this was a disastrous decision that would result in certain relegation, especially when it was announced that someone with absolutely no experience of English football would be taking over. Whilst we still have some way to go before we can guarantee Championship football next year it does appear that JR knows what he is doing and the players seem to be buying in to his ideas. There does also seem to be grater stability with everyone at the club pulling in the same direction, which was clearly not the case in SCP final weeks. Sad that SCP had to go, but maybe in hindsight it was something that had to be done.0
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Will be very interesting to hear what Damien has to say at the NWKA meeting tomorrow night.markmc68 said:Keeping Damien Matthew and Alex dyer now seems to have been a master plan. Normally when the manager goes the rest of the back room staff go as well. So again credit where credits due.
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Fanny Fanackapan said:
Will be very interesting to hear what Damien has to say at the NWKA meeting tomorrow night.markmc68 said:Keeping Damien Matthew and Alex dyer now seems to have been a master plan. Normally when the manager goes the rest of the back room staff go as well. So again credit where credits due.
What meeting is that?
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The one you're bringing a mini bus load of Bromley Addicks to, Henry !!!Henry Irving said:Fanny Fanackapan said:
Will be very interesting to hear what Damien has to say at the NWKA meeting tomorrow night.markmc68 said:Keeping Damien Matthew and Alex dyer now seems to have been a master plan. Normally when the manager goes the rest of the back room staff go as well. So again credit where credits due.
What meeting is that?
Or was it a double decker.......?
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JonnyK said:Oggy Red said:
Jose?
It's all down to Karel Fraeye.
You heard it here first.
Haven't heard that one - tell us more m8
By the way it's good to hear the SCP followers giving credit where it's due - confession is good for the soul it is said!
No confessions. Some people can give credit for a job well done in difficult circumstances, wish only the best for the manager and not let their judgement be twisted by personal feelings or vendettas.
Shame not everyone was able to do that before Riga came along isn't it
Carry on Jose'. Wanted you to succeed as soon as you were appointed and so far it is going well. Haven't come in and tried to make a statement by changing everything, given players a chance even when it wasn't always working, rode your luck but made a lot of that luck yourself. Carry yourself well and come over as decently bloke in interviews.
Three more wins and we can start thinking about next season.6 -
Fanny Fanackapan said:
The one you're bringing a mini bus load of Bromley Addicks to, Henry !!!Henry Irving said:Fanny Fanackapan said:
Will be very interesting to hear what Damien has to say at the NWKA meeting tomorrow night.markmc68 said:Keeping Damien Matthew and Alex dyer now seems to have been a master plan. Normally when the manager goes the rest of the back room staff go as well. So again credit where credits due.
What meeting is that?
Or was it a double decker.......?
I've lost the address. Where is it and when?
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Can someone explain what is Alex Dyers official role these days? I know he was asst manager, but thought that role now belongs to Rigas mate who wears the matching suit.................0
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Bob Stokoe
Eddie Firmani
Theo Foley
Andy Nelson
Mike Bailey
Alan Mullery
Ken Craggs
Lenny
Steve Gritt/ Alan Curbishley
Curbs
Dowie
Par(twat)dew
Parkinson
CP
JR
i think thats all the managers i have seen CAFC play under some were good some awful.
Surely you dont compare one manager who has left against another who has been in the job weeks ? History will show who is better than who and in what circumstances.(IMO)
Lenny is a legend ---end of--------to get us promoted when we were playing at Shitouts Park and after the receivers had padlocked the Valley the year before is truly astounding.
Theo Foley ---a great guy and a fountain of knowledge about all things related to London football. He brought in Hales, Flanagan, Horsefield----------memories of when we used to score a few goals. However Theo was never a Manager --a good coach and number two yes.
Nelson another good manager at lower level---lost the plot and called us "drunken morons" ------------actually maybe he had a point !
Bailey as above, He left us for more money at Brighton, shame he put together a good side.
Mullery---another egotistical twat-----it was always "Alan Mulleys Charlton" ---destroyed baileys team.
Thought Gritty was hard done by to be booted out , but it proved to be inspired .
Curbs----got us into the top division twice and kept us there longer than anyone expected-----better than Lenny ? debatable. Defo lost the dressing room at the end, but would have loved to have seen him get the money Dowie and Pardew had.
Dowie------------dear God why ? was it deep down in Murry`s mind to slight the Orange Man ?
Pardew------------everything wrong with football to day-----needs a slap of the first, second and third order.
Parkinson------------Sorry nice guy, crap manager and the worst caretaker manger ever.
CP-----he has gone and FFS its time to move on !!!!!!!!!!!! IF IF IF those two useless twats that "owned" the club had given CP the dosh when we came up---well who knows---maybe they would have been selling a Prem team ?
in order of favourites
Lenny
Curbs
CP
Bailey
Nelson
Theo
Parkinson
Mullery
Dowie
Pardew (needs burning)
said its all about opinions
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Dyer is asst Manager
the other bloke who name I can't remember is Asst Head Coach.
Sounds silly but that is AD's job title so they can't really change it without him agreeing.
Sure it will be sorted out in the summer. One way or another.0 -
So, surely assistant manager out-ranks head coach then? ;-)Henry Irving said:Dyer is asst Manager
the other bloke who name I can't remember is Asst Head Coach.
Sounds silly but that is AD's job title so they can't really change it without him agreeing.
Sure it will be sorted out in the summer. One way or another.0 -
I'm really pleased that Riga has settled in so quickly and seems to have the right approach and a respect for the club, its history and the players. It was a big gamble, but so far, so good.
Nevertheless, I still believe CP would have had a really good chance of keeping us up - especially given reinforcements such as Obika and Petrucci. Let's not forget we collected 21 points in the last ten games last season, including a record away win 6-0 at Barnsley. So, Jose, if you want to completely win me over, beat that! ;-)8 -
Riga and Powell seem to think similarly judging by their team selections and accent on getting the defence right and taking it from there.
Riga's "luck" is arguably "Spongefoot" getting injured, as well as being allowed a few more loan options, since our Simon played in his first few teams.
I'm sorry Chris has gone as it was undeserved in my view but he has and as a Charlton fan I have to get behind Riga for the rest of this season at least.
Three wins and a draw will hopefully be enough especially if two of those wins are against Yeovil and Barnsley.
More twists and turns yet though I fancy.4 -
Les Gore had a 66% win ratio, including an away win at the then divisional champions I believe.0
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Agree with this, but I wonder if he will still be here next season? If CP picks up another management job I could see AD going to join him. Equally, if there is a major rebuilding job by Jose or a n other in the summer that could include a new coaching and scouting team. Either way, good on Charlton for not throwing the baby out with the bath water.ValleyGary said:
Agree. Dyer got a bit of stick on here when his role was not fully known, but i think it shows good character when your manager and best mate gets the sack that you have the professionalism and desire for the club to stay on and work with the new man.markmc68 said:Keeping Damien Matthew and Alex dyer now seems to have been a master plan. Normally when the manager goes the rest of the back room staff go as well. So again credit where credits due.
I know he wants to stay in a job, but he could have easily told RD to poke it up his arse.0 -
Many thought that CP as a relatively young manager needed time to mature - fair comment really.
I wonder whether he needed to extra experience of a progressive style of play as to my mind he was more of the traditionalist 'what we have we hold' type in the Curbs mould. No one can criticise what Curbs achieved with comparatively small resources but maybe, just maybe JR has given us a glimpse that there is another somewhat more up to date style of play that may be effective with small resources.
No way of really knowing but to me a picture is developing...........0 -
JonnyK said:
Many thought that CP as a relatively young manager needed time to mature - fair comment really.
I wonder whether he needed to extra experience of a progressive style of play as to my mind he was more of the traditionalist 'what we have we hold' type in the Curbs mould. No one can criticise what Curbs achieved with comparatively small resources but maybe, just maybe JR has given us a glimpse that there is another somewhat more up to date style of play that may be effective with small resources.
No way of really knowing but to me a picture is developing...........
Powell's gone. It's about Riga now. Move on.
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Brilliantly subtle plug FannyFanny Fanackapan said:
Will be very interesting to hear what Damien has to say at the NWKA meeting tomorrow night.markmc68 said:Keeping Damien Matthew and Alex dyer now seems to have been a master plan. Normally when the manager goes the rest of the back room staff go as well. So again credit where credits due.
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But I handed in my homework on time Headmaster ;-))Henry Irving said:JonnyK said:Many thought that CP as a relatively young manager needed time to mature - fair comment really.
I wonder whether he needed to extra experience of a progressive style of play as to my mind he was more of the traditionalist 'what we have we hold' type in the Curbs mould. No one can criticise what Curbs achieved with comparatively small resources but maybe, just maybe JR has given us a glimpse that there is another somewhat more up to date style of play that may be effective with small resources.
No way of really knowing but to me a picture is developing...........
Powell's gone. It's about Riga now. Move on.1 -
I know you are upset SCP's not around anymore but you really need to let it go.JonnyK said:
But I handed in my homework on time Headmaster ;-))Henry Irving said:JonnyK said:Many thought that CP as a relatively young manager needed time to mature - fair comment really.
I wonder whether he needed to extra experience of a progressive style of play as to my mind he was more of the traditionalist 'what we have we hold' type in the Curbs mould. No one can criticise what Curbs achieved with comparatively small resources but maybe, just maybe JR has given us a glimpse that there is another somewhat more up to date style of play that may be effective with small resources.
No way of really knowing but to me a picture is developing...........
Powell's gone. It's about Riga now. Move on.
Move on for your own sake, it will only break your heart. Learn to embrace change.0 -
I can promise you he's not upset!!Henry Irving said:
I know you are upset SCP's not around anymore but you really need to let it go.JonnyK said:
But I handed in my homework on time Headmaster ;-))Henry Irving said:JonnyK said:Many thought that CP as a relatively young manager needed time to mature - fair comment really.
I wonder whether he needed to extra experience of a progressive style of play as to my mind he was more of the traditionalist 'what we have we hold' type in the Curbs mould. No one can criticise what Curbs achieved with comparatively small resources but maybe, just maybe JR has given us a glimpse that there is another somewhat more up to date style of play that may be effective with small resources.
No way of really knowing but to me a picture is developing...........
Powell's gone. It's about Riga now. Move on.
Move on for your own sake, it will only break your heart. Learn to embrace change.1 -
Think you need to re read the opening chapter of 'Behavioural Analysis for Beginners' H0
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I have a feeling Henry realises that.BigAndyCAFC said:
I can promise you he's not upset!!Henry Irving said:
I know you are upset SCP's not around anymore but you really need to let it go.JonnyK said:
But I handed in my homework on time Headmaster ;-))Henry Irving said:JonnyK said:Many thought that CP as a relatively young manager needed time to mature - fair comment really.
I wonder whether he needed to extra experience of a progressive style of play as to my mind he was more of the traditionalist 'what we have we hold' type in the Curbs mould. No one can criticise what Curbs achieved with comparatively small resources but maybe, just maybe JR has given us a glimpse that there is another somewhat more up to date style of play that may be effective with small resources.
No way of really knowing but to me a picture is developing...........
Powell's gone. It's about Riga now. Move on.
Move on for your own sake, it will only break your heart. Learn to embrace change.
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Really?BigAndyCAFC said:
I can promise you he's not upset!!Henry Irving said:
I know you are upset SCP's not around anymore but you really need to let it go.JonnyK said:
But I handed in my homework on time Headmaster ;-))Henry Irving said:JonnyK said:Many thought that CP as a relatively young manager needed time to mature - fair comment really.
I wonder whether he needed to extra experience of a progressive style of play as to my mind he was more of the traditionalist 'what we have we hold' type in the Curbs mould. No one can criticise what Curbs achieved with comparatively small resources but maybe, just maybe JR has given us a glimpse that there is another somewhat more up to date style of play that may be effective with small resources.
No way of really knowing but to me a picture is developing...........
Powell's gone. It's about Riga now. Move on.
Move on for your own sake, it will only break your heart. Learn to embrace change.
You just went from adapted child to critical parent in 3 minutes. (Transactional analysis for experts)JonnyK said:Think you need to re read the opening chapter of 'Behavioural Analysis for Beginners' H
Your feeling is correct but they haven't worked it out yet so don't spoil it for themSteve Dowman said:
I have a feeling Henry realises that.BigAndyCAFC said:
I can promise you he's not upset!!Henry Irving said:
I know you are upset SCP's not around anymore but you really need to let it go.JonnyK said:
But I handed in my homework on time Headmaster ;-))Henry Irving said:JonnyK said:Many thought that CP as a relatively young manager needed time to mature - fair comment really.
I wonder whether he needed to extra experience of a progressive style of play as to my mind he was more of the traditionalist 'what we have we hold' type in the Curbs mould. No one can criticise what Curbs achieved with comparatively small resources but maybe, just maybe JR has given us a glimpse that there is another somewhat more up to date style of play that may be effective with small resources.
No way of really knowing but to me a picture is developing...........
Powell's gone. It's about Riga now. Move on.
Move on for your own sake, it will only break your heart. Learn to embrace change.3
