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Ed. Minutes Silence Tonight

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  • The_Organiser
    The_Organiser Posts: 3,999
    Liverpool hold a memorial for Heysel every year and I'm sure it's remembered in Italy.

    I think Hillsborough gets so much more 'spotlight' because no one has ever been held accountable - justice has never been served, unlike some of the other disasters mentioned.

    I think more than any other, so many people could relate to what they went through because as we all know - there but for the grace of god -it could easily have happened to alot of clubs fans around that time.

    Some of these minutes silences become ott but I think this one is apt.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,323

    Bradford Fire gets almost no attention

    or Hysel
  • JollyRobin
    JollyRobin Posts: 1,706
    In football far to often we tarnish all clubs supporters with the same brush. In fact given what happened on Saturday a lot of clubs have been doing that about our own fans, and quite rightly we don't like it.

    Often a minority ruin it for the rest. Are you telling me that every Liverpool fan climbed the barrier at Heysel and attacked Juventus fans? What about the children, as young as 10, who were crushed to death at Hillsborough. Do you think they were there throwing objects and attacking Juventus fans? Of course not.

    We must grow up and stop looking at groups of supporters as one entity. They are not, they are a group of individuals. Tonight I am pleased I will get the opportunity to pay my respects to the 96 people who died at Hillsborough.
  • Bournemouth Addick
    Bournemouth Addick Posts: 16,296
    edited April 2014

    Jodaius said:

    Over kill.
    I don't think it's overkill to have a minute's silence at a football match on the 25th anniversary of England's worst ever football-related disaster. Actually I struggle to see why anyone would have a problem with it. It certainly doesn't do anyone any harm.
    It was done at the weekend by every club who took part at the games.


    Also Hillsborough gets far more attention than every other disaster is getting on my tits.

    Firstly it's not a fecking competition for attention, secondly it gets that attention perhaps because those effected have had to fight to uncover the truth about how and why their loved ones died on a day out at the football and are only now getting somewhere. Thirdly I'm guessing you're not old enough to have followed events as they happened and realised that, on another day, that might have been you having the life squeezed out of you within sight of the pitch.

    Lastly it's the 25 anniversary of it happening anyway and it doesn't take place every year as you are suggesting.

    Sorry if that gets on your tits but there you are.
  • bartoncafc123
    bartoncafc123 Posts: 126
    edited April 2014
    A forum like this is designed for disagreements and opposing views on players and the way a club is run, find it very strange when people wade in with comments like 'it gets on my tits' on issues such as these.

    Understandably people feel the 96 should be remembered, if you disagree or its 'getting on your tits' simply stay in the concourse for an extra minute instead of making ill educated comments on threads like this that serve no positive purpose.

    I also hope no one claps, a minutes applause is designed to celebrate a life...there is (obviously) nothing to celebrate about what happened at hillsbrough.
  • Jodaius said:

    Over kill.
    I don't think it's overkill to have a minute's silence at a football match on the 25th anniversary of England's worst ever football-related disaster. Actually I struggle to see why anyone would have a problem with it. It certainly doesn't do anyone any harm.
    It was done at the weekend by every club who took part at the games.


    Also Hillsborough gets far more attention than every other disaster is getting on my tits.
    Firstly it's not a fecking competition for attention, secondly it gets that attention perhaps because those effected have had to fight to uncover the truth about how and why their loved ones died on a day out at the football and are only now getting somewhere. Thirdly I'm guessing you're not old enough to have followed events as they happened and realised that, on another day, that might have been you having the life squeezed out of you within sight of pitch.

    Lastly it's the 25 anniversary of it happening anyway and it doesn't take place every year as you are suggesting.

    Sorry if that gets on your tits but there you are.


    You're not getting on my tits, you're just a bit boring and prententious.



  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,194

    A forum like this is designed for disagreements and opposing views on players and the way a club is run, find it very strange when people wade in with comments like 'it gets on my tits' on issues such as these.

    Understandably people feel the 96 should be remembered, if you disagree or its 'getting on your tits' simply stay in the concourse for an extra minute instead of making ill educated comments on threads like this that serve no positive purpose.

    I also hope no one claps, a minutes applause is designed to celebrate a life...there is (obviously) nothing to celebrate about what happened at hillsbrough.

    This. All day long

  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,027
    edited April 2014

    Liverpool hold a memorial for Heysel every year and I'm sure it's remembered in Italy.

    I think Hillsborough gets so much more 'spotlight' because no one has ever been held accountable - justice has never been served, unlike some of the other disasters mentioned.

    I think more than any other, so many people could relate to what they went through because as we all know - there but for the grace of god -it could easily have happened to alot of clubs fans around that time.

    Some of these minutes silences become ott but I think this one is apt.

    Well said.

    I don't think i'll ever forget the images as a kid watching it unfold on my tv, seeing fans carrying the injured / dead on advertising hoardings across the pitch. Utterly haunting.

    Anyone who finds that a 60 second silence to remember those that died doing what they are doing tonight, going to watch their football team, as something that gets on their tits, is not really worth debating with to be honest.

  • Had the actual anniversary of Hillsborough been on the Saturday or Sunday then I'd agree that its a bit overkill with us doing another.

    But the fact that tonights match is on the anniversary means it has to be done in my opinion
  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,660
    The thing that you should all remember while you're bickering amongst yourselves is how you'd of felt if a family member went to a football match one day and you never saw them again.I think its a good show of respect holding a minutes silence, of course if you dont agree then stay downstairs till its done but there's no harm in us fans remembering the 96, who at the end of the day were only doing what we will be lucky enough to do so tonight, supporting their team .

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  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,173

    Jodaius said:

    Over kill.
    I don't think it's overkill to have a minute's silence at a football match on the 25th anniversary of England's worst ever football-related disaster. Actually I struggle to see why anyone would have a problem with it. It certainly doesn't do anyone any harm.
    It was done at the weekend by every club who took part at the games.


    Also Hillsborough gets far more attention than every other disaster is getting on my tits.
    Firstly it's not a fecking competition for attention, secondly it gets that attention perhaps because those effected have had to fight to uncover the truth about how and why their loved ones died on a day out at the football and are only now getting somewhere. Thirdly I'm guessing you're not old enough to have followed events as they happened and realised that, on another day, that might have been you having the life squeezed out of you within sight of pitch.

    Lastly it's the 25 anniversary of it happening anyway and it doesn't take place every year as you are suggesting.

    Sorry if that gets on your tits but there you are.

    You're not getting on my tits, you're just a bit boring and prententious.





    Have some respect mate. 96 people died.
  • RugbyAddick
    RugbyAddick Posts: 2,088
    What a knob.
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 5,009
    It took 20 years for them to accept responsibilty.

    Anyway, this isn't a debate to be having today.

  • sadiejane1981
    sadiejane1981 Posts: 9,012
    I originally asked the question yesterday because it is the actual anniversary and because I am one that feels it is relevant.

    Why does it matter about what Liverpool fans done previously? Or how much testimony other tragedies get? This is the 25th anniversary of 96 men, women and children that attended a football match and never came home, due to being failed by the police and let down again by the emergency services, they then had their memories tarnished by being blamed for their own deaths.

    This minute silence, one minute out of your lives, is to remember these poor souls and pay respect to the families that have been fighting for a quarter of a century for justice for their, spouses, siblings or children.

    Fighting amongst ourselves about this one measly minute when it holds such a monumental meaning is not only disrespectful but stupid and selfish, I almost guarantee that all of you will be returning home after attending this match so if you can't be bothered to use the minute silence to remember the 96 and pay respect then maybe use it to be thankful for that.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,844
    Some of the stuff on this thread is mind blowing in its tosserary.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,340
    LenGlover said:

    Our fans were incapable of observing a silence for Rememberance Day if I remember rightly earlier in the season so doubtless it will turn into applause tonight too.

    Us drunk hoodlems in the away end managed it on Saturday, but you're right we won't be able to today.

    Silly comment.
  • Ashaddick
    Ashaddick Posts: 158

    Jodaius said:

    Over kill.
    I don't think it's overkill to have a minute's silence at a football match on the 25th anniversary of England's worst ever football-related disaster. Actually I struggle to see why anyone would have a problem with it. It certainly doesn't do anyone any harm.
    It was done at the weekend by every club who took part at the games.


    Also Hillsborough gets far more attention than every other disaster is getting on my tits.

    Well maybe when the corrupt and scheming individuals who are directly responsible for innocent lives lost when they could easily have been saved are convicted and imprisoned, we can all finally have closure and move on. Until then " Justice for the 96 "

  • The_Organiser
    The_Organiser Posts: 3,999
    RedPanda said:

    It took 20 years for them to accept responsibilty.

    Anyway, this isn't a debate to be having today.

    I'm sure someone will correct me if im wrong but I'm pretty sure some Liverpool fans went to jail for the incident long long before that.
    Like you say though - not for today.

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  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,488
    Can we please keep it at a minute's silence and not start applauding. Silence is 10 x more powerful. Even if some start clapping just leave them to it, don't join in.
  • waldo
    waldo Posts: 495

    I originally asked the question yesterday because it is the actual anniversary and because I am one that feels it is relevant.

    Why does it matter about what Liverpool fans done previously? Or how much testimony other tragedies get? This is the 25th anniversary of 96 men, women and children that attended a football match and never came home, due to being failed by the police and let down again by the emergency services, they then had their memories tarnished by being blamed for their own deaths.

    This minute silence, one minute out of your lives, is to remember these poor souls and pay respect to the families that have been fighting for a quarter of a century for justice for their, spouses, siblings or children.

    Fighting amongst ourselves about this one measly minute when it holds such a monumental meaning is not only disrespectful but stupid and selfish, I almost guarantee that all of you will be returning home after attending this match so if you can't be bothered to use the minute silence to remember the 96 and pay respect then maybe use it to be thankful for that.

    A very eloquent and dignified response AmyJane
  • waldo
    waldo Posts: 495
    waldo said:

    I originally asked the question yesterday because it is the actual anniversary and because I am one that feels it is relevant.

    Why does it matter about what Liverpool fans done previously? Or how much testimony other tragedies get? This is the 25th anniversary of 96 men, women and children that attended a football match and never came home, due to being failed by the police and let down again by the emergency services, they then had their memories tarnished by being blamed for their own deaths.

    This minute silence, one minute out of your lives, is to remember these poor souls and pay respect to the families that have been fighting for a quarter of a century for justice for their, spouses, siblings or children.

    Fighting amongst ourselves about this one measly minute when it holds such a monumental meaning is not only disrespectful but stupid and selfish, I almost guarantee that all of you will be returning home after attending this match so if you can't be bothered to use the minute silence to remember the 96 and pay respect then maybe use it to be thankful for that.

    A very eloquent and dignified response AmyJane
    sorry sadiejane1981!
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,352
    PLEASE PLEASE lets not turn it into applause, if ever there was a time for silence it was for this
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,165

    Liverpool hold a memorial for Heysel every year and I'm sure it's remembered in Italy.

    I think Hillsborough gets so much more 'spotlight' because no one has ever been held accountable - justice has never been served, unlike some of the other disasters mentioned.

    I think more than any other, so many people could relate to what they went through because as we all know - there but for the grace of god -it could easily have happened to alot of clubs fans around that time.

    Some of these minutes silences become ott but I think this one is apt.

    After skipping through a page of tripe, I'm glad to see we have some fans who have some common sense.

    For the record (16 I think) people got charged for Heysel. People really need to get their fact right before commenting.
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,891
    There'll be more fuss over this in 75 years than there will be this year to commemorate 100 years since WWI
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    The stadium announcer ought to emphasise that it is a minutes silence TWICE just in case anybody does not catch it first time around. Even saying that is will NOT be applause just to be sure.
  • CAFCBourne
    CAFCBourne Posts: 3,807
    It gives some a second chance to observe properly after saturday
  • mrbligh
    mrbligh Posts: 3,057
    People need to re-evaluate their lives if they think a minutes silence in honour of 96 people that died watching footy is not worth honouring
  • killer kish
    killer kish Posts: 2,019
    Simple answer is turn up a minute late if you want to miss it?! We all have opinions and i think they should rightly be aired without being shouted down or abused.Personally I wish we wasnt doing a minutes silence as I do have strong opinions on this and the whole Hillsborough/Liverpool supporters.