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Impressive Poyet

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  • JonnyK
    JonnyK Posts: 830
    He delivered a killer ball for SC who then miscontrolled it and the chance was gone. He needs to play with proper strikers who are playing off the shoulder of the last defender!
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,423
    No mention of any German teams interested in him.
  • Mundell Fleming
    Mundell Fleming Posts: 854
    edited April 2014
    Interesting article. Two observations.

    First, why don't we get more analysis like that quoted, covering interceptions, tackles, passes, pass completions etc?

    I can't be alone in finding it interesting and instructive, yet this is a rare glimpse into what the professionals must now see as a matter of routine. It's almost as if as football fans we're seen as too thick to be interested or, perhaps, it's that the closed shop of professional football doesn't want supporters to have this kind of information because it might lead to awkward questions and undermine traditionalists.

    The second point is a bit more controversial. In part based on what Poyet said in the last match day programme and part based on how I expect the team to try to play if Riga stays, I suspect that provided the current head coach remains we are more likely to keep Poyet than we might have been under Powell. Just my view for what it's worth. Maybe it's just wishful thinking.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,862
    Doesn't surprise me he's 6ft 2. When they line up before kick off he's as tall as Dervite. Time will tell if he becomes a box to box midfielder, scoring goals etc. There is a place in teams for a player who can sit in front of the back four, pick up the ball, dictate play etc. Don't forget that he's only 19 with less than 20 first team starts to his name. He's gonna be a top, top player. Just enjoy it while he's still here.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,862
    Valiantphil said:

    No mention of any German teams interested in him.

    ?
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,423
    LargeAddick said:

    Valiantphil said:

    No mention of any German teams interested in him.

    ?
    Ich denke, das ist wo er gehen
  • queensland_addick
    queensland_addick Posts: 7,567
    Hope he ends up being as good in the air as his Dad was. If he's 6'2" he should be winning a lot in the air.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,626
    queensland_addick said:

    Hope he ends up being as good in the air as his Dad was. If he's 6'2" he should be winning a lot in the air.

    "He's better than Gus!"
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,352
    Poyet is a great player I would like to say that before I make this point

    People need to look at themselves, some off his marks today are crazy how you can give him a 8 is beyond me, he had a average game on a average team performance.

    I am sure people give him high marks thinking he will see it and wanna stay lol
  • legaladdick
    legaladdick Posts: 1,808
    Paulie8290
    I think if you check the marks you'll find that only 2 gave him 8. The majority gave him 7. I agree he wasn't anywhere near his best and gave him 6 (the same as you).

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  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,891
    If Poyet is going to some German team/Barcelona/World XI etc, he is going to need to learn he can pass forwards as well as back.

    Think he is a cracking player, has fantastic composure, good control and a willing to battle, but he is NOT what some people here are declaring him as. I believe he is probably the level headed kind of youngster that understands that!

    Having said that he will clearly go onto good things and I 100% believe he will and wish him the best.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,352
    legaladdick said:

    Paulie8290
    I think if you check the marks you'll find that only 2 gave him 8. The majority gave him 7. I agree he wasn't anywhere near his best and gave him 6 (the same as you).

    I never said everyone gave him a 8, i think there was one or two 7.5s as well
  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,354
    Poyet may be a great player one day. He has it in him perhaps. But he is not what we need right now. A defensive midfielder who plays too deep and does not pass forward severely limits the attacking threat at home. Probably what Riga asks for though.
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,371
    paulie8290 said:

    Poyet is a great player I would like to say that before I make this point

    People need to look at themselves, some off his marks today are crazy how you can give him a 8 is beyond me, he had a average game on a average team performance.

    I am sure people give him high marks thinking he will see it and wanna stay lol

    Great player! I like Poyet but great is really pushing it
  • legaladdick
    legaladdick Posts: 1,808
    And I didn't say you said 'everyone gave him 8' did I?
    There will always be some who over/undermark but that is evened out by the majority. It's all about opinions anyway. I see Chris Solly was nominated as MOM which I find odd but to each their own.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,352
    legaladdick said:

    Paulie8290
    I think if you check the marks you'll find that only 2 gave him 8. The majority gave him 7. I agree he wasn't anywhere near his best and gave him 6 (the same as you).

    he has had about 5/6 more 8's and even a 9 now
  • Dippenhall
    Dippenhall Posts: 3,926
    Mundell Fleming said:

    Interesting article. Two observations.

    First, why don't we get more analysis like that quoted, covering interceptions, tackles, passes, pass completions etc?

    I can't be alone in finding it interesting and instructive, yet this is a rare glimpse into what the professionals must now see as a matter of routine. It's almost as if as football fans we're seen as too thick to be interested or, perhaps, it's that the closed shop of professional football doesn't want supporters to have this kind of information because it might lead to awkward questions and undermine traditionalists.

    I think it is due to the costs and sensitivity of information for rivals. OPTA who provide the stats charge good money to clubs and the media if they want access. So its unlikely the stats will get thrown out for general consumption.
  • Mundell Fleming
    Mundell Fleming Posts: 854
    Dippenhall said:

    Mundell Fleming said:

    Interesting article. Two observations.

    First, why don't we get more analysis like that quoted, covering interceptions, tackles, passes, pass completions etc?

    I can't be alone in finding it interesting and instructive, yet this is a rare glimpse into what the professionals must now see as a matter of routine. It's almost as if as football fans we're seen as too thick to be interested or, perhaps, it's that the closed shop of professional football doesn't want supporters to have this kind of information because it might lead to awkward questions and undermine traditionalists.

    I think it is due to the costs and sensitivity of information for rivals. OPTA who provide the stats charge good money to clubs and the media if they want access. So its unlikely the stats will get thrown out for general consumption.
    Thanks. Thats interesting. So that would presumably mean that Sky Sports have an agreement and/or arrangement which means they can make selected data public, but cannot do so systematically?

  • Dippenhall
    Dippenhall Posts: 3,926
    It may be that Sky only pay for the data that is relevant to their programmes and they probably give us everything they choose to buy.

    I looked how you could get OPTA stats a while ago and they are a pure business to business operations, betting companies, media and sports organisations. Keeping it exclusive must keep the price up. I guess they would never make their stats available to us if it meant say Sky wouldn't buy stats where it has a commercial value. Thinking about it I bet OPTA's contracts promises it is not available to the public.

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