The thought of this just scares me. NO NO NO NO NO NO. I still havent' forgiven him for apologising to the Chelsea fans when he scored against them. We paid your wages you useless lump.
Riga must get it. The players clearly like him, the football has been decent - at least they've tried to pass it - and the feel good factor of staying up could give us powerful momentum going into next season.
I don't care if he was a good player or not. Why should we employ someone in one of the most important positions in the club when he couldn't have cared less about us the last time? We can do better. We deserve better.
Most managers are ex players. But how many good ones were strikers? Can't think of any off hand, especially in the UK
Alex Ferguson Brian Clough
Beat me to it, Amos.
Brian Clough was arguably the best English striker of all time. His goals per game ration was 0.916 - the highest of any player (who scored more than 200 goals) in English League history. He scored a total of 251 goals - the highest post war record at the time - not sure if it's been beaten since. And all that in a career that effectively ended when he was 27.
How was Roland to know he was a flop with us? Doing research on the club, yes. Researching every player that's played for us and fan opinions incase they become a manager seems a bit weird. Also I do not want him to be our manager just find some of the logic a bit bizarre
By leaking stories to the press and gauging the fan reaction online
I sincerely think thats a possibility, it's what I would do in his shoes.
If the fans like the idea - bring it in and be a hero. If they don't? The press get things wrong all the time!
Certainly made me smile when I read this thread, there's more chance of the club shop reintroducing Jimmy's shorts size, than him being our next manager.
It may be possible for JFH to be coach of Charlton but only if he works for nothing (or donates all of his wages to the Charlton Upbeats) to acknowledge the total theft of wages that he 'earned' whilst as a player at Charlton under Dowie.
As a player, JFH had the worst attitude, a terrible moaner, negative, lazy and slow. Mr Billy Big Boots totally lacking in responsibility. His presence also blocked the development of younger Charlton players coming through the ranks.
It would be disastrous decision to employ JFH as coach. It is a similarly appalling prospect as Dennis Wise being coach at Charlton under Jimenesz and Slater. For all those holding off buying season tickets it would be a deciding factor not to purchase.
Having just read the Karel Fraeye thread, perhaps the JFH spectre as head coach is raised to make Charlton supporters glad that JFH doesn't get the job and Charlton end up with Karel Fraeye ?!
Most managers are ex players. But how many good ones were strikers? Can't think of any off hand, especially in the UK
Alex Ferguson Brian Clough
Beat me to it, Amos.
Brian Clough was arguably the best English striker of all time. His goals per game ration was 0.916 - the highest of any player (who scored more than 200 goals) in English League history. He scored a total of 251 goals - the highest post war record at the time - not sure if it's been beaten since. And all that in a career that effectively ended when he was 27.
Most managers are ex players. But how many good ones were strikers? Can't think of any off hand, especially in the UK
Alex Ferguson Brian Clough
Beat me to it, Amos.
Brian Clough was arguably the best English striker of all time. His goals per game ration was 0.916 - the highest of any player (who scored more than 200 goals) in English League history. He scored a total of 251 goals - the highest post war record at the time - not sure if it's been beaten since. And all that in a career that effectively ended when he was 27.
Reasonably successful as a manager too!
I don't think it would much of an argument.
He played a grand total of 2 times for England.
Prolific goalscorer, but best? Come off it.
On one measure he was the best, no argument - goals per game. In the days of Charlton and Greaves (and no subs) his chances were somewhat limited. He was a bit outspoken even as a player and in those days the England team was picked by a committee of old farts at the FA - not the manager. The very reason he never got the England manager job.
Even I'm not old enough to remember him playing though!
Clough had a tremendous record as a goalscorer, but I believe he played most of his football in Division 2, for both Middlesborough and Sunderland. Jimmy Greaves strike rate is less impressive than Clough's, but when he left Chelsea to join AC Milan, aged just 21, he'd scored 124 goals in just 157 games, all in Division 1. He also scored 44 goals for England in just 57 games. Don't think "old big head" was in the same class as Greavesey.
I'm not old enough to have watched Clough play either, but I did get to see a bit of Greaves. A fantastic player in his prime.
Clough had a tremendous record as a goalscorer, but I believe he played most of his football in Division 2, for both Middlesborough and Sunderland. Jimmy Greaves strike rate is less impressive than Clough's, but when he left Chelsea to join AC Milan, aged just 21, he'd scored 124 goals in just 157 games, all in Division 1. He also scored 44 goals for England in just 57 games. Don't think "old big head" was in the same class as Greavesey.
I'm not old enough to have watched Clough play either, but I did get to see a bit of Greaves. A fantastic player in his prime.
Agree about Greaves - best player in the 6yd box I've ever seen.
I also don't believe the Div1/Div2 differential was as great then. Most players played for their home town club (Clough was born in Middlesbrough and then moved up the road to Sunderland after a falling out)) and the difference in wages would have been coppers. Players just didn't move clubs every couple of years as they do today. If Clough had been playing today he would have been in the Prem for sure.
Clough had a tremendous record as a goalscorer, but I believe he played most of his football in Division 2, for both Middlesborough and Sunderland. Jimmy Greaves strike rate is less impressive than Clough's, but when he left Chelsea to join AC Milan, aged just 21, he'd scored 124 goals in just 157 games, all in Division 1. He also scored 44 goals for England in just 57 games. Don't think "old big head" was in the same class as Greavesey.
I'm not old enough to have watched Clough play either, but I did get to see a bit of Greaves. A fantastic player in his prime.
Agree about Greaves - best player in the 6yd box I've ever seen.
better than franny 'fox in the box' jeffers? (2.3mil)
Sign Hasslebank once shame on him, sign Hasslebank twice shame on us.
Seriously though, this just shows how mad considering anyone other than Jackson is at this point, Hasslebank is realistically the sort of alternative we could attract and it would be a significant downgrade to the person we already have in the role.
The SLP asked TS a question and he answered it, not much more he could have done
The South London Press asked Charlton owner Thomas Sandgaard last week about the rumours of Hasselbaink being in the mix to succeed Nigel Adkins.
The US-based Dane told our publication last week that more than 100 applications had been received.
“Obviously he has been on the list [of potential candidates] but we’ve not had any talks with Jimmy,” said Sandgaard last Wednesday. “Despite the loss [to Charlton], he is obviously doing a good job. Good for him.”
The SLP asked TS a question and he answered it, not much more he could have done
The South London Press asked Charlton owner Thomas Sandgaard last week about the rumours of Hasselbaink being in the mix to succeed Nigel Adkins.
The US-based Dane told our publication last week that more than 100 applications had been received.
“Obviously he has been on the list [of potential candidates] but we’ve not had any talks with Jimmy,” said Sandgaard last Wednesday. “Despite the loss [to Charlton], he is obviously doing a good job. Good for him.”
Not much more he could have done? Surely you just say something like “we have been considering a list of potential candidates but Johnnie has done a brilliant job and that factors significantly into our thinking”
It’s a pretty easy question to navigate and there’s no need to answer the question by revealing who is or isn’t on the list.
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I wouldnt say ian dowie as he doesnt count as a manager.
Brian Clough
Don Revie
Kenny Dalglish
Brian Clough was arguably the best English striker of all time. His goals per game ration was 0.916 - the highest of any player (who scored more than 200 goals) in English League history. He scored a total of 251 goals - the highest post war record at the time - not sure if it's been beaten since. And all that in a career that effectively ended when he was 27.
Reasonably successful as a manager too!
I sincerely think thats a possibility, it's what I would do in his shoes.
If the fans like the idea - bring it in and be a hero. If they don't? The press get things wrong all the time!
As a player, JFH had the worst attitude, a terrible moaner, negative, lazy and slow. Mr Billy Big Boots totally lacking in responsibility. His presence also blocked the development of younger Charlton players coming through the ranks.
It would be disastrous decision to employ JFH as coach. It is a similarly appalling prospect as Dennis Wise being coach at Charlton under Jimenesz and Slater. For all those holding off buying season tickets it would be a deciding factor not to purchase.
No way better to keep Jose !
He played a grand total of 2 times for England.
Prolific goalscorer, but best? Come off it.
Even I'm not old enough to remember him playing though!
I'm not old enough to have watched Clough play either, but I did get to see a bit of Greaves. A fantastic player in his prime.
By the way Karien I love you.
I also don't believe the Div1/Div2 differential was as great then. Most players played for their home town club (Clough was born in Middlesbrough and then moved up the road to Sunderland after a falling out)) and the difference in wages would have been coppers. Players just didn't move clubs every couple of years as they do today. If Clough had been playing today he would have been in the Prem for sure.
I love you Lucy.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/burton-albion-boss-hasselbaink-keen-on-charlton-athletic-boss-job/
Seriously though, this just shows how mad considering anyone other than Jackson is at this point, Hasslebank is realistically the sort of alternative we could attract and it would be a significant downgrade to the person we already have in the role.
The SLP asked TS a question and he answered it, not much more he could have done
The South London Press asked Charlton owner Thomas Sandgaard last week about the rumours of Hasselbaink being in the mix to succeed Nigel Adkins.
The US-based Dane told our publication last week that more than 100 applications had been received.
“Obviously he has been on the list [of potential candidates] but we’ve not had any talks with Jimmy,” said Sandgaard last Wednesday. “Despite the loss [to Charlton], he is obviously doing a good job. Good for him.”
It’s a pretty easy question to navigate and there’s no need to answer the question by revealing who is or isn’t on the list.