Champions League 2014/15

paulie8290

Pot 1:
Real Madrid
Barcelona
Bayern Munich
Chelsea
Benfica
Atlético Madrid
Arsenal
Porto
Pot 2:
Schalke 04
Borussia Dortmund
Juventus
Paris Saint-Germain
Shakhtar Donetsk
Basel
Zenit Saint Petersburg
Manchester City
Pot 3:
Bayer Leverkusen
Olympiacos
CSKA Moscow
Ajax
Liverpool
Sporting
Galatasaray
Athletic Bilbao
Pot 4:
Anderlecht
Roma
APOEL
BATE Borisov
Maribor
Monaco
Malmö
Ludogorets

paulie8290

So basically Arsenal won 1 trophy in 9 year, get to be top seeds again,

would love them to get
PSG
Leverkusen
Roma

moutuakilla

Based on UEFA Coefficient for last 5 years isn't it?

paulie8290

moutuakilla said:

Based on UEFA Coefficient for last 5 years isn't it?

So one trophy and finishing 4th in the premier league is good enough for them to be above PSG, Dortmund, Juventus Man City,

sam3110

Barca, Dortmund, Liverpool, Roma would be a great group
Or
Bayern, Man City, Ajax, Monaco



Benfica, Basel, Olympiakos, APOEL would be awful though

paulie8290

Watching the final game Ludogorets had their keeper sent off 1 minute before pens and no subs left,

MrOneLung

paulie8290 said:

moutuakilla said:

Based on UEFA Coefficient for last 5 years isn't it?

So one trophy and finishing 4th in the premier league is good enough for them to be above PSG, Dortmund, Juventus Man City,

The trophy they won has no effect on champions league.

It is purely based on last five seasons in Europe and Man City have not done as well.

paulie8290

MrOneLung said:

paulie8290 said:

moutuakilla said:

Based on UEFA Coefficient for last 5 years isn't it?

So one trophy and finishing 4th in the premier league is good enough for them to be above PSG, Dortmund, Juventus Man City,

The trophy they won has no effect on champions league.

It is purely based on last five seasons in Europe and Man City have not done as well.

surely Dortmund should be ahead of them then and Juventus

paulie8290

paulie8290 said:

Watching the final game Ludogorets had their keeper sent off 1 minute before pens and no subs left,

Ludogorets won, 2 penalty saves from him and he scored, he went mental afterwards

SELR_addicks

Cosmin Moti becomes a Ludogorets legend as the DEFENDER stops 2 penalties in shootout and takes them into FIRST ever CL! Beating Steaua Bucuresti

paulie8290

SELR_addicks said:

Cosmin Moti becomes a Ludogorets legend as the DEFENDER stops 2 penalties in shootout and takes them into FIRST ever CL! Beating Steaua Bucuresti

Cheers Colin

MrLargo

paulie8290 said:

MrOneLung said:

paulie8290 said:

moutuakilla said:

Based on UEFA Coefficient for last 5 years isn't it?

So one trophy and finishing 4th in the premier league is good enough for them to be above PSG, Dortmund, Juventus Man City,

The trophy they won has no effect on champions league.

It is purely based on last five seasons in Europe and Man City have not done as well.

surely Dortmund should be ahead of them then and Juventus

Surely the Champions of each country should be pot 1, the teams that finished 2nd in pot 2, etc. Farcical closed shop system designed by the big clubs to protect the big clubs. Mickey Mouse tournament, can't believe they have the gall to continue calling it the Champions League.

Callumcafc

MrLargo said:

paulie8290 said:

MrOneLung said:

paulie8290 said:

moutuakilla said:

Based on UEFA Coefficient for last 5 years isn't it?

So one trophy and finishing 4th in the premier league is good enough for them to be above PSG, Dortmund, Juventus Man City,

The trophy they won has no effect on champions league.

It is purely based on last five seasons in Europe and Man City have not done as well.

surely Dortmund should be ahead of them then and Juventus

Surely the Champions of each country should be pot 1, the teams that finished 2nd in pot 2, etc. Farcical closed shop system designed by the big clubs to protect the big clubs. Mickey Mouse tournament, can't believe they have the gall to continue calling it the Champions League.

With those guidelines (and using UEFA country co-efficients), the pots would be as such:

Pot 1
Atletico Madrid
Manchester City
Bayern Munich
Juventus
Benfica
PSG
Shahktar Donetsk
CSKA Moscow
Pot 2
Ajax
Galatasaray
Anderlecht
Olympiacos
Basel
APOEL
BATE Borisov
Ludogorets Razgrad
Pot 3
Maribor
Malmo FF
Barcelona
Liverpool
Borussia Dortmund
Roma
Sporting CP
Monaco
Pot 4
FC Zenit
Real Madrid
Chelsea
FC Schalke 04
FC Porto
Athletic Bilbao
Arsenal
Bayer Leverkusen

Callumcafc

SELR_addicks said:

Cosmin Moti becomes a Ludogorets legend as the DEFENDER stops 2 penalties in shootout and takes them into FIRST ever CL! Beating Steaua Bucuresti

To add to this, Moti is a Romanian international who was tonight playing against the Romanian champions Steaua Bucharest... his former club were Dinamo Bucharest, Steaua's arch rivals.

This is why sport is great.

se9addick

paulie8290 said:

MrOneLung said:

paulie8290 said:

moutuakilla said:

Based on UEFA Coefficient for last 5 years isn't it?

So one trophy and finishing 4th in the premier league is good enough for them to be above PSG, Dortmund, Juventus Man City,

The trophy they won has no effect on champions league.

It is purely based on last five seasons in Europe and Man City have not done as well.

surely Dortmund should be ahead of them then and Juventus

I haven't researched this but I reckon Arsenal have done better than both of those teams over the last five years but I guess if they haven't and Arsenal are still seeded ahead of them then it's a conspiracy !

ForeverAddickted

MrLargo said:

paulie8290 said:

MrOneLung said:

paulie8290 said:

moutuakilla said:

Based on UEFA Coefficient for last 5 years isn't it?

So one trophy and finishing 4th in the premier league is good enough for them to be above PSG, Dortmund, Juventus Man City,

The trophy they won has no effect on champions league.

It is purely based on last five seasons in Europe and Man City have not done as well.

surely Dortmund should be ahead of them then and Juventus

Surely the Champions of each country should be pot 1, the teams that finished 2nd in pot 2, etc. Farcical closed shop system designed by the big clubs to protect the big clubs. Mickey Mouse tournament, can't believe they have the gall to continue calling it the Champions League.

Erm... this is UEFA we're talking about.. your idea makes far too much sense to be used I'm afraid

UEFA's newest idea (which makes it completely simple) is...

Pot 1 team gets draw out first followed by Pot 3... Pot 2 and then Pot 4
If Pot 1 Team has an "A" in their name then Pot 3 team needs to be drawn again but if Pot 1 Team has a "B" in their name then the Pot 3 Team then has to spin around in circles.
Teams in Pot 2 and Pot 4 may also need to be re-drawn but that is dependant on whether the teams drawn against each other have shaken hands

Callumcafc

GROUP A
Atletico Madrid
Juventus
Olympiacos
Malmo FF

GROUP B
Real Madrid
Basel
Liverpool
Ludogorets Razgrad

GROUP C
Benfica
Zenit
Bayer Leverkusen
AS Monaco

GROUP D
Arsenal
Dortmund
Galatasaray
Anderlecht

GROUP E
Bayern Munich
Man City
CSKA Moscow
AS Roma

GROUP F
Barcelona
PSG
Ajax
APOEL

GROUP G
Chelsea
Schalke 04
Sporting CP
NK Maribor

GROUP H
Porto
Shakhtar
Athletic Bilbao
BATE Borisov


draw complete.

paulie8290

Liverpool and Chelsea through
Man City out
Arsenal depends how they do against Galatasaray

Super_horns

Man City get Roma and Bayern so the toughest of the English sides but probably still go through.

Group C and H look wide open.

Jaddick

Honestly don't understand the logic in both of Portuguese teams being in pot 1.

I know it's all done via "co-efficient" and imagine it's something to do with them being previous winners or finalists/semi-finalists 40 odd years ago but it's just so stupid.

Dave2l

Man City always get drawn a stinker...and once again, chelsea, basically already through...

SELR_addicks

Cristiano Ronaldo named European player of the season 2013/14 - beats Robben and Neuer to prize.

That doesn't take World Cup into account.

paulie8290

Just looking even if City manage to get through there last 16 game will be against probably Barcelona or PSG

Dave2l

paulie8290 said:

Just looking even if City manage to get through there last 16 game will be against probably Barcelona or PSG

More options than that right?

It works in pots again.

paulie8290

Dave2l said:

paulie8290 said:

Just looking even if City manage to get through there last 16 game will be against probably Barcelona or PSG

More options that right?

It works in pots again.

I just assumed it was how it used to be, winner of group A plays runner up of group B and so on

Callumcafc

All group winners are put into a pot and drawn against all group runners up. Only rule is that two clubs from the same country can't play each other (ensuring that even more of the big clubs get through)...

paulie8290

paulie8290 said:

Dave2l said:

paulie8290 said:

Just looking even if City manage to get through there last 16 game will be against probably Barcelona or PSG

More options that right?

It works in pots again.

I just assumed it was how it used to be, winner of group A plays runner up of group B and so on

I am just imagining that it used to be that way, just had a look at the last few years and there has always been a draw for the last 16

TelMc32

Couldn't be bothered to start a new thread & this looked most appropriate. If you haven't had a chance to see them, try and get a look at Porto's goals tonight. Some cracking strikes. 4-0 up at the moment v Basel, who look awful. Porto have absolutely ripped them apart.

Absurdistan

Schalke just beat Madrid 4-3, lost 5-4 on aggregate. Real were hanging on for the last 10 mins with the crowd booing.
Amazing match.

Absurdistan

Joke decisions.
2 red cards for away teams.
Thought oscar was going to be sent off, but sent zlatan off.

Redvalleyeast

Hate the way all the Chelsea outfield players immediately surrounded the ref,never a red card