I'm not old enough to remember Clough as a manager but I find him fascinating. Obviously The Damned United is fiction, but its well worth a read for anyone that hasn't had the chance. Another book I enjoyed was Provided You Don't Kiss Me: 20 Years with Brian Clough by Duncan Hamilton. The comparisons with Mourinho anger me slightly. From my understanding, Brian Clough wanted football to be played the right way and had strong footballing values. Mourinho is anti-football in that respect. Would you see Brian Clough poking the oppositions assistant manager in the eye or kicking teams off the pitch because you can't beat them fairly? The only comparison is the ego, but Mourinho doesn't come close to Clough in any other way. As for Nigel, I wouldn't mind seeing him in charge at The Valley one day.
Great character and much missed. Was an absolute legend in Nottingham and Derby when I lived in the East Midlands in the late Eighties/early Nineties. Also once called me "a little shit".
Brian Clough was a truly exceptional manager. He took a team from the lower reaches of the Second Division up to The First Division and won the Championship in their first season. He then failed miserably at the biggest club in the country at the time and was made to look stupid. But he came back and did what he'd done at Derby again, now at at Forest, and also went on and bettered it with 2 European cups. It's an amazing story. I've read the 'Derby County Football Book' and 'His Way' and sometimes I pick them up and read snippets like I'm reading the diary of an old friend.
Never forget when he went on the pitch throwing punches at his own fans for celebrating on the pitch, they then they had to go to him and apologise the next day lol
Never forget when he went of the pitch throwing punches at his own fans for celebrating on the pitch, they then they had to go to him and apologise the next day lol
That's right he clipped a few round the rear that had invaded the pitch.
I'm not old enough to remember Clough as a manager but I find him fascinating. Obviously The Damned United is fiction, but its well worth a read for anyone that hasn't had the chance. Another book I enjoyed was Provided You Don't Kiss Me: 20 Years with Brian Clough by Duncan Hamilton. The comparisons with Mourinho anger me slightly. From my understanding, Brian Clough wanted football to be played the right way and had strong footballing values. Mourinho is anti-football in that respect. Would you see Brian Clough poking the oppositions assistant manager in the eye or kicking teams off the pitch because you can't beat them fairly? The only comparison is the ego, but Mourinho doesn't come close to Clough in any other way. As for Nigel, I wouldn't mind seeing him in charge at The Valley one day.
He knew how to get the best out of his teams expect one (Dirty Leeds), just shows what can happen if the team wants to play for the manager and what it can he it doesn't.
I'm not old enough to remember Clough as a manager but I find him fascinating. Obviously The Damned United is fiction, but its well worth a read for anyone that hasn't had the chance. Another book I enjoyed was Provided You Don't Kiss Me: 20 Years with Brian Clough by Duncan Hamilton. The comparisons with Mourinho anger me slightly. From my understanding, Brian Clough wanted football to be played the right way and had strong footballing values. Mourinho is anti-football in that respect. Would you see Brian Clough poking the oppositions assistant manager in the eye or kicking teams off the pitch because you can't beat them fairly? The only comparison is the ego, but Mourinho doesn't come close to Clough in any other way. As for Nigel, I wouldn't mind seeing him in charge at The Valley one day.
I wouldn't call The Dammed United fiction.
Provided you don't kiss me is a great read. Really made me laugh when Duncan Hamilton (author & local Nottingham reporter) went to see Cloughie in his office after the game but when he got there all the lights were off so he asked "what are you doing with the lights off?" Cloughie ushered him in & said "quiet lad!! I'm hiding from Graham Taylor" then the current England manager
It's all been said, a really (in this case a much overused word is appropriate) great manager. And if injury had not cut his playing days short, he would have been an even greater striker for club and country. A playing career lost, a genius managerial career gained
I'm not old enough to remember Clough as a manager but I find him fascinating. Obviously The Damned United is fiction, but its well worth a read for anyone that hasn't had the chance. Another book I enjoyed was Provided You Don't Kiss Me: 20 Years with Brian Clough by Duncan Hamilton. The comparisons with Mourinho anger me slightly. From my understanding, Brian Clough wanted football to be played the right way and had strong footballing values. Mourinho is anti-football in that respect. Would you see Brian Clough poking the oppositions assistant manager in the eye or kicking teams off the pitch because you can't beat them fairly? The only comparison is the ego, but Mourinho doesn't come close to Clough in any other way. As for Nigel, I wouldn't mind seeing him in charge at The Valley one day.
I wouldn't call The Dammed United fiction.
Well, technically it is but I take your point. Faction I think they call it!
I'm not old enough to remember Clough as a manager but I find him fascinating. Obviously The Damned United is fiction, but its well worth a read for anyone that hasn't had the chance. Another book I enjoyed was Provided You Don't Kiss Me: 20 Years with Brian Clough by Duncan Hamilton. The comparisons with Mourinho anger me slightly. From my understanding, Brian Clough wanted football to be played the right way and had strong footballing values. Mourinho is anti-football in that respect. Would you see Brian Clough poking the oppositions assistant manager in the eye or kicking teams off the pitch because you can't beat them fairly? The only comparison is the ego, but Mourinho doesn't come close to Clough in any other way. As for Nigel, I wouldn't mind seeing him in charge at The Valley one day.
I wouldn't call The Dammed United fiction.
Well its a fiction based on a factual scenario. I can see why RRR said that.
big Ead is one of my heros, both as a football manager and as a socialist that never forgot his roots or sold out.
He won the league with 2 provincial sides, the EC with a team of relative no-bodies at that level. His sides played football with a grace and charm above all rivals.
He was one of the greatest orators I have ever seen footage of. Sometimes. At other times his words are offensive and bigoted when judged by modern standards.
Truly one of a kind, I find him a spell binding character and I am too young to remember most of his career, although the 91 cup final does stand out in my mind, a trophy he never one.
No manager is ever going to eclipse what he did at Forest and Derby.
This quote made me smile about Arsene Wenger: "That Frenchman needs a list of all the opticians around Highbury and Islington, because he never sees 'owt when his players are being naughty on the pitch."
I'm not old enough to remember Clough as a manager but I find him fascinating. Obviously The Damned United is fiction, but its well worth a read for anyone that hasn't had the chance. Another book I enjoyed was Provided You Don't Kiss Me: 20 Years with Brian Clough by Duncan Hamilton. The comparisons with Mourinho anger me slightly. From my understanding, Brian Clough wanted football to be played the right way and had strong footballing values. Mourinho is anti-football in that respect. Would you see Brian Clough poking the oppositions assistant manager in the eye or kicking teams off the pitch because you can't beat them fairly? The only comparison is the ego, but Mourinho doesn't come close to Clough in any other way. As for Nigel, I wouldn't mind seeing him in charge at The Valley one day.
Also Clough had genuine wit, sometimes even shot through with a bit of self deprecation (this often quite subtle!). You couldn't really say that Mourinho has much of a sense of humour full stop
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29239885
Some nice memories here from Nigel about his dad...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29273680
An absolute legend and a "very" special one.
Edit* it was Forest v QPR in the cup IIRC.
He knew how to get the best out of his teams expect one (Dirty Leeds), just shows what can happen if the team wants to play for the manager and what it can he it doesn't.
big Ead is one of my heros, both as a football manager and as a socialist that never forgot his roots or sold out.
He won the league with 2 provincial sides, the EC with a team of relative no-bodies at that level. His sides played football with a grace and charm above all rivals.
He was one of the greatest orators I have ever seen footage of. Sometimes. At other times his words are offensive and bigoted when judged by modern standards.
Truly one of a kind, I find him a spell binding character and I am too young to remember most of his career, although the 91 cup final does stand out in my mind, a trophy he never one.
No manager is ever going to eclipse what he did at Forest and Derby.
"That Frenchman needs a list of all the opticians around Highbury and Islington, because he never sees 'owt when his players are being naughty on the pitch."