Harry Kane

LoOkOuT

Certainly more likeable too.

North Lower Neil

Pre-big injury Shearer was about on a level with Kane.

Kane has kept his level up a lot longer.  International record is so good, may well end up as our most capped player and with nearly twice as many goals as anyone else.

Starinnaddick

Not easy to weigh up Kane v Shearer. For example I don't think Shearer ever missed a penalty for England. The overall  stats obviously favour Kane. 

stoneroses19

Most recent The Overlap episode, Gary Neville asked the others to name a few strikers in order of best and mainly they discussed Shearer and Kane. 

Roy Keane was the only one to mention what a horrible player and on pitch bully (high elbows, actions when ref not looking) Shearer actually was. Everyone else saying how wonderful etc he was. 

Off topic, but the more I listen to that podcast, the more Roy Keane understands and knows more about football than any of the others. Carragher can have good insights too but also too biased. It would be better without Neville (only wants to shout over people) and Wright (too nice to the point it's annoying he never gets off fence about anything). 

Chris_from_Sidcup

Not sure Keane can have the cheek to call any other player nasty. I think he just doesn't like him because he got in his head that time at St James' Park and got Keane sent off.

Overall i think it's pretty clear Kane has the better stats, but for the 3-4 years he was at Blackburn, Shearer was unbelievable. Fastest player to 100 PL goals (124 games), a record that has stood for 30 years but now Haaland will obliterate it. 

Raith_C_Chattonell

stoneroses19 said:

Most recent The Overlap episode, Gary Neville asked the others to name a few strikers in order of best and mainly they discussed Shearer and Kane. 

Roy Keane was the only one to mention what a horrible player and on pitch bully (high elbows, actions when ref not looking) Shearer actually was. Everyone else saying how wonderful etc he was. 

Off topic, but the more I listen to that podcast, the more Roy Keane understands and knows more about football than any of the others. Carragher can have good insights too but also too biased. It would be better without Neville (only wants to shout over people) and Wright (too nice to the point it's annoying he never gets off fence about anything). 

Curbs said:  'Jon was caught in the throat by Alan Shearer, which is why he went down and stayed down'.

Shearer said:" I cannot see how the referee or the linesman can honestly say that I deliberately used my elbow in the defender's face."I can categorically say that I didn't, I didn't even know he was there. All I was doing was protecting the ball. 

Sir Bobby said: "The decision was an insult to a great player who has graced the game. I am absolutely furious about it. All Alan was doing was something he has done 40,000 times before, shielding the ball with his back to goal, nothing else.

I said: "That Shearer is a right dirty bar steward ... look at 'im,  'e can't get his own way with Fortune so he done 'im up like a kipper!  Go on, get off Shearer and good riddance!" (I was about as far away from the incident that you could get, but you know when you know )

Appeal: Newcastle appealed the decision, and after reviewing video evidence on the following Monday, the referee and his assistant agreed that the dismissal had been a mistake. The Football Association overturned the red card, preventing Shearer from serving a three-game ban

Carter

I think it is a lot harder to be a centre forward now than it has been for years. Most of the time they are isolated and playing with their back to goal. Less proper wingers slinging crosses in, less through balls, VAR

Shearer was a powerhouse, a hunger to be first to the ball, tough hard bloke. 

Harry Kane has everything bar maybe searing pace. He is such an intelligent player. 

Recency bias might be at play but Kane for me is the far better player overall.

And Roy Keane is right, he was sneaky. Anyone who wasn't a Blackburn or Newcastle fan knew this and definitely anyone who had to mark him. I don't mind that to be honest, its a side a lot of players have. Keane was the opposite of sneaky, he was capable of great violence on the pitch but they both played with a similar level of intensity which I admired.

Roy Keane gets it as well, Carragher drives me up the wall he isn’t half as knowledgeable as he thinks he is. Neville is decent, on that podcast his job is to steer things and he is up against it with Carragher not listening to him or misrepresenting what he says. 

cblock

Raith_C_Chattonell said:

stoneroses19 said:

Most recent The Overlap episode, Gary Neville asked the others to name a few strikers in order of best and mainly they discussed Shearer and Kane. 

Roy Keane was the only one to mention what a horrible player and on pitch bully (high elbows, actions when ref not looking) Shearer actually was. Everyone else saying how wonderful etc he was. 

Off topic, but the more I listen to that podcast, the more Roy Keane understands and knows more about football than any of the others. Carragher can have good insights too but also too biased. It would be better without Neville (only wants to shout over people) and Wright (too nice to the point it's annoying he never gets off fence about anything). 

Curbs said:  'Jon was caught in the throat by Alan Shearer, which is why he went down and stayed down'.

Shearer said:" I cannot see how the referee or the linesman can honestly say that I deliberately used my elbow in the defender's face."I can categorically say that I didn't, I didn't even know he was there. All I was doing was protecting the ball. 

Sir Bobby said: "The decision was an insult to a great player who has graced the game. I am absolutely furious about it. All Alan was doing was something he has done 40,000 times before, shielding the ball with his back to goal, nothing else.

I said: "That Shearer is a right dirty bar steward ... look at 'im,  'e can't get his own way with Fortune so he done 'im up like a kipper!  Go on, get off Shearer and good riddance!" (I was about as far away from the incident that you could get, but you know when you know )

Appeal: Newcastle appealed the decision, and after reviewing video evidence on the following Monday, the referee and his assistant agreed that the dismissal had been a mistake. The Football Association overturned the red card, preventing Shearer from serving a three-game ban

I was at that game and thought it was a red card.

I also knew the linesman (David Bryan) who flagged for the offence, he was not consulted at all about the decision in the following days.
In his opinion, he said it was a deliberate elbow.

JohnBoyUK

gringo said:

JohnBoyUK said:

One season wonder...
He only takes pens...
He offers nothing, he drops too deep...
He's not as good as <insert every mediocre striker ever to have played the game>...

He's one of the all time greats in my eyes, simple as that.

Would have him back at Spurs in a heart beat given we've got first refusal.  Richarlison or Solanke aren't fit to lace his boots (tbh, they're not fit regularly full stop!)

wouldnt it be fun if Arsenal steamed in and signed him, just for S&G.

They really should go all out for him and they they'd probably win everything in sight.

MrOneLung

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Not sure Keane can have the cheek to call any other player nasty. I think he just doesn't like him because he got in his head that time at St James' Park and got Keane sent off.

Overall i think it's pretty clear Kane has the better stats, but for the 3-4 years he was at Blackburn, Shearer was unbelievable. Fastest player to 100 PL goals (124 games), a record that has stood for 30 years but now Haaland will obliterate it. 

I think Roy Keane was saying it as a complement though


remember when Shearer booted someone in the face when both on the floor ?
Was it Lennon ?

got away with it again

se9addick

Addick Addict said:

Addick Addict said:

Will be/is already better than Shearer? Discuss.

I asked that exactly eight years ago in September 2017. I think we have an answer.

Shearer - 283 goals in 559 league appearances plus 30 international goals in 63 appearances
Kane - 299 goals in 441 league appearances plus 74 international goals in 109 appearances

What surprises me most about that stat is that Shearer only played 63 times for England. Felt like he was the main man for about 1,000 years. 

Chris_from_Sidcup

se9addick said:

Addick Addict said:

Addick Addict said:

Will be/is already better than Shearer? Discuss.

I asked that exactly eight years ago in September 2017. I think we have an answer.

Shearer - 283 goals in 559 league appearances plus 30 international goals in 63 appearances
Kane - 299 goals in 441 league appearances plus 74 international goals in 109 appearances

What surprises me most about that stat is that Shearer only played 63 times for England. Felt like he was the main man for about 1,000 years. 

To be fair he did retire from international football quite early (he was only 30). Could've easily played longer as he was still banging in goals for Newcastle for years after that.

Also when he played there was a lot of competition up front. Owen, Fowler, Wright, Sheringham, Ferdinand. Kane basically has Ollie Watkins and that's it.

YTS1978

MrOneLung said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Not sure Keane can have the cheek to call any other player nasty. I think he just doesn't like him because he got in his head that time at St James' Park and got Keane sent off.

Overall i think it's pretty clear Kane has the better stats, but for the 3-4 years he was at Blackburn, Shearer was unbelievable. Fastest player to 100 PL goals (124 games), a record that has stood for 30 years but now Haaland will obliterate it. 

I think Roy Keane was saying it as a complement though


remember when Shearer booted someone in the face when both on the floor ?
Was it Lennon ?

got away with it again

Allegedly Shearer told the FA he'd quit England duty if he was done for this incident! He got away with it and Lennon was given a 5 game ban for headbutting Sir Alan's boot while laying on the floor. Justice served.