Morgan Fox - Aug 2025 signed for Wigan (p25)

Covered End

Dazzler21 said:

Sage said:

Dazzler21 said:

Dare I say it, Morgan Fox was better last season than Solly.

Solly was tenacious but he blocks far fewer crosses into the box than Fox.

Solly isn't as good a crosser wither.

Solly however does cause mistakes he closes down better, he nips at the oppositions ankles like a rabid jack russell.

You are joking right?

Firstly, one of Solly's strengths is that he doesn't get beat by the winger, therefore blocking or defending well before he can even put in a cross.

I lost count of the amount of times Fox got beaten by the winger for him not to recover and before you know it, the ball has been crossed, taking him out the game.

Not to mention there would be at least 2/3 times every match where Fox crosses the ball into the stands, Solly is more controlled with his crosses than Fox.

You could argue that statistically, Fox may block more crosses, but that would be because opposition teams target his side more than Solly's, therefore the more crosses they put in the box on his side, the more he should block.

I'm not digging him out, I genuinely believe he could have a very good season in League One, the fact he won't be coming up against many brilliant wingers will help his game develop as he gains confidence.

Just a couple of your points had to be a joke, surely?

None were a joke.

They may have been over simplified points but Fox had some great games last season.

Granted I didn't get to as many games as most on here, but Fox is definitely put down a lot because he isn't a left footed Solly.

When a winger does pass Solly the block rarely occurs.

Fox does stand off the winger which isn't great but he does get a block in maybe a third to a half of the time when the winger beats him.

You even admit Solly is less tested than Fox

Dazzler, can you please remind me of those great games Fox had last season ?

I never missed a home game & saw about 10 aways. I can't recall one.

Dazzler21

I do already prefer THD to Fox.

I admit Fox isn't as good as Solly in general, but Solly looked very jaded last season.

I could see Fox at CB especially at this level.

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Dazzler21 said:

I do already prefer THD to Fox.

I admit Fox isn't as good as Solly in general, but Solly looked very jaded last season.

I could see Fox at CB especially at this level.

I'll take that as a no

ForeverAddickted

Covered End said:

Dazzler21 said:

Sage said:

Dazzler21 said:

Dare I say it, Morgan Fox was better last season than Solly.

Solly was tenacious but he blocks far fewer crosses into the box than Fox.

Solly isn't as good a crosser wither.

Solly however does cause mistakes he closes down better, he nips at the oppositions ankles like a rabid jack russell.

You are joking right?

Firstly, one of Solly's strengths is that he doesn't get beat by the winger, therefore blocking or defending well before he can even put in a cross.

I lost count of the amount of times Fox got beaten by the winger for him not to recover and before you know it, the ball has been crossed, taking him out the game.

Not to mention there would be at least 2/3 times every match where Fox crosses the ball into the stands, Solly is more controlled with his crosses than Fox.

You could argue that statistically, Fox may block more crosses, but that would be because opposition teams target his side more than Solly's, therefore the more crosses they put in the box on his side, the more he should block.

I'm not digging him out, I genuinely believe he could have a very good season in League One, the fact he won't be coming up against many brilliant wingers will help his game develop as he gains confidence.

Just a couple of your points had to be a joke, surely?

None were a joke.

They may have been over simplified points but Fox had some great games last season.

Granted I didn't get to as many games as most on here, but Fox is definitely put down a lot because he isn't a left footed Solly.

When a winger does pass Solly the block rarely occurs.

Fox does stand off the winger which isn't great but he does get a block in maybe a third to a half of the time when the winger beats him.

You even admit Solly is less tested than Fox

Dazzler, can you please remind me of those great games Fox had last season ?

I never missed a home game & saw about 10 aways. I can't recall one.

Middlesbrough at home... Kept Adomah in his pocket the whole match

Queens Park Rangers at home... What a strike that was for a Defender

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ForeverAddickted said:

Covered End said:

Dazzler21 said:

Sage said:

Dazzler21 said:

Dare I say it, Morgan Fox was better last season than Solly.

Solly was tenacious but he blocks far fewer crosses into the box than Fox.

Solly isn't as good a crosser wither.

Solly however does cause mistakes he closes down better, he nips at the oppositions ankles like a rabid jack russell.

You are joking right?

Firstly, one of Solly's strengths is that he doesn't get beat by the winger, therefore blocking or defending well before he can even put in a cross.

I lost count of the amount of times Fox got beaten by the winger for him not to recover and before you know it, the ball has been crossed, taking him out the game.

Not to mention there would be at least 2/3 times every match where Fox crosses the ball into the stands, Solly is more controlled with his crosses than Fox.

You could argue that statistically, Fox may block more crosses, but that would be because opposition teams target his side more than Solly's, therefore the more crosses they put in the box on his side, the more he should block.

I'm not digging him out, I genuinely believe he could have a very good season in League One, the fact he won't be coming up against many brilliant wingers will help his game develop as he gains confidence.

Just a couple of your points had to be a joke, surely?

None were a joke.

They may have been over simplified points but Fox had some great games last season.

Granted I didn't get to as many games as most on here, but Fox is definitely put down a lot because he isn't a left footed Solly.

When a winger does pass Solly the block rarely occurs.

Fox does stand off the winger which isn't great but he does get a block in maybe a third to a half of the time when the winger beats him.

You even admit Solly is less tested than Fox

Dazzler, can you please remind me of those great games Fox had last season ?

I never missed a home game & saw about 10 aways. I can't recall one.

Middlesbrough at home... Kept Adomah in his pocket the whole match

Queens Park Rangers at home... What a strike that was for a Defender

Fair comment.

Fiiiiiish

Not saying people are wrong for saying so, but just out of interest, why do people think Fox would be good at centre back?

Kap10

Fiiiiiish said:

Not saying people are wrong for saying so, but just out of interest, why do people think Fox would be good at centre back?

I don't know how he would do at CB but i believe that was his academy position

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Fiiiiiish said:

Not saying people are wrong for saying so, but just out of interest, why do people think Fox would be good at centre back?

Agreed. I haven't the foggiest personally.

drewman

Is it really true the regime have turned down a £1.25m bid? Find this very hard to believe given their past form.

Elthamaddick

drewman said:

Is it really true the regime have turned down a £1.25m bid? Find this very hard to believe given their past form.

If THD were still here we'd have snapped their hands off

Sillybilly

I'd drive him to Sheffield myself for half of that if it was true (and I admire the way he's applied himself in the face of the criticism from me and others before I get pounced on. Now a solid league 1 full back. But £1.25 mill! Do me a favour)

LargeAddick

drewman said:

Is it really true the regime have turned down a £1.25m bid? Find this very hard to believe given their past form.

rumours thread says last Sheffield Weds bid was 2m

jamescafc

Said it on the transfer rumours thread but actually very pleased we've kept Fox. He's had a few poor performances but he's young, he's improving week by week, he's rarely had protection in front of him, he's come through the academy and cares about the club. IMO these are the exact traits the likes of Curbishley looked for in a player.

Alwaysneil

I like the Slade 'I looked the player in the eye and he said...' quotes.

With THD 'I want out boss'
With Fox 'I don't want to leave boss I want to get better here and fight for my place'

Words to that effect anyway.

As Slade has stated from day 1, if you aren't up for comeoeting for Charlton, you're out.

That's a good thing for me.

East_Stand_Loopy

http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/owls/sheffield-wednesday-frustration-for-owls-as-charlton-athletic-turn-down-three-offers-for-morgan-fox-1-8099138

Am I the only one who finds this amusing?

The dismay that is projected that someone could actually refuse to accept the money offered by such a "massive" club is palpable.

But, hey, if you're the biggest club in the known universe, I suppose you're allowed a certain feeling of self entitlement...

Addictedoldgit

We reject around £2 mil'n for Fox? !!! Yet sold Cousins for around £1.1 mil'n. Makes no sense at all IMO. Can only think it was to late for a replacement.

Yes his attitude is right but, he lacks any pace and when beaten seems uninterested in tracking back.

Water under the bridge now, but I cant help thinking would have been a more balanced squad if we'd taken the money and invested it in a goal scoring midfielder or 2.

buckshee

Fantastic cross for the first yesterday and another assist for the second.

bolloxbolder

A broken watch is correct twice a day.

CyrilDavies

bolloxbolder said:

A broken watch is correct twice a day.

That's more times, than most men!

sam3110

Over the last few weeks he's been our best full back

Nug

He looked good going forward and I don't have a problem with Fox but let's be honest Port Vale were absolutely awful going forward he was put under zero pressure. If they were 7th just shows how utterly awful this league is and god knows what it says about us.

sam3110

Seen some people still give him joint lowest scores in player marks, some people just can't accept certain things in life can they?

Dazzler21

They see the game through shit stained eyes when Fox plays. 2 weeks running he has been better than he has been. He's looked a proper player.

Covered End

Well played Morgan. Possibly his best game for Charlton. Certainly his best for more than a year.

Two assists and he blocked a goal bound effort with his chest.

Credit where it's due, he was arguably our MOM & I can't remember that happening before.

BR3red

bolloxbolder said:

A broken watch is correct twice a day.

Please be a little magnanamous- jeez.

I am not a great lover of Morgan but he is young, broke into the 1st team, puts CAFC on his sleeve, is one of our own, is under intense pressure every week and just happened to have a blinder this week. We may not have scored without him Saturday.

Give the bloke praise and a break, it isn't that hard to say "Well Done Son".

BR3red

Solly was dire last week ( maybe due to injury) but he cannot do no wrong in some eyes.

Solly has been consistently amazing for CAFC but not to the detriment of Fox always....

SELR_addicks

Maybe he's just found his level...

Probably increasing in confidence now he's no longer playing against Championship level wingers every week.

hoof_it_up_to_benty

SELR_addicks said:

Maybe he's just found his level...

Probably increasing in confidence now he's no longer playing against Championship level wingers every week.

Fox is a far better player than he is given credit for by a lot of our fans - as is the Charlton way once it's decided a player is 'shit' all objectivity goes out of the window and the player is then given up on by a lot of our support.
I've heard some awful abuse hurled at Morgan by our own support yet he's just got on and done his job. He's an honest professional who works hard and deserves more credit.

CyrilDavies

hoof_it_up_to_benty said:

SELR_addicks said:

Maybe he's just found his level...

Probably increasing in confidence now he's no longer playing against Championship level wingers every week.

Fox is a far better player than he is given credit for by a lot of our fans - as is the Charlton way once it's decided a player is 'shit' all objectivity goes out of the window and the player is then given up on by a lot of our support.
I've heard some awful abuse hurled at Morgan by our own support yet he's just got on and done his job. He's an honest professional who works hard and deserves more credit.

Well said...My sentiments entirely.

masicat

Unfortunately Fox spends too much time covering for a player not playing well in front of him and not tracking back. Would never happen under Curbs who was the best manager we have had for making sure full backs had cover. Fox is a better player than the whingers would understand.