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Video of Clive Harris' speech and the unveiling of the memorial

Henry Irving
Henry Irving Posts: 85,303
edited November 2014 in General Charlton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US_CSO0JbGQ&feature=youtu.be

Posted this on the other thread but felt it was worth its own thread

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,080
    Brilliant - hopefully they'll be able to identify the third player who was killed in WW1 soon, would be nice if he has any remaining family that they know that his club is still thinking of him even after 100 years.
  • superdulvertonred
    superdulvertonred Posts: 1,149
    Great to watch that video always proud of CAFC
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,303
    Clive and I have a theory as to who it is. if it is him then yes his family are still thinking of him but it it hard to be sure the name we have is correct.
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    how do we know there is one more but not know his name - confused..
  • SE7toSG3
    SE7toSG3 Posts: 3,140
    The club made a statement just after the war Barney that three lost their lives but didn't name any of them, we have identified two so far and are close we think to the third, why they were never named in the first place we have no idea.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,080
    SE7toSG3 said:

    The club made a statement just after the war Barney that three lost their lives but didn't name any of them, we have identified two so far and are close we think to the third, why they were never named in the first place we have no idea.

    If it was just after the war is it possible that some families hadnt been advised that their loved ones hasn't survived so it was thought best not to name names just in case ?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,303
    se9addick said:

    SE7toSG3 said:

    The club made a statement just after the war Barney that three lost their lives but didn't name any of them, we have identified two so far and are close we think to the third, why they were never named in the first place we have no idea.

    If it was just after the war is it possible that some families hadnt been advised that their loved ones hasn't survived so it was thought best not to name names just in case ?
    Possibly but IMHO it is more likely that everyone knew who they were so they didn't need to be reminded. It was a small club. It had maybe 50 or 60 players and members (a guess) and 30 went to war.

    It could be that the names were listed but in a document that we no longer have access to.

    Hence trawling military records, local papers, local casualty lists, census data etc to try and eliminate people and narrow the search.

    So we have a picture of a club member in 1913 who doesn't seem to appear in photos afterwards and we have a person with the same name and the location of his war grave. But it might not be the same person and he might have survived the war but not been involved after.

    We don't have a 1914 or 1919 membership list. We have board minutes from 1921 onward but haven't found what we want in there.

  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Forgive my ignorance, but i assume Clive posts on here?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,303
    The_President said:

    Forgive my ignorance, but i assume Clive posts on here?

    Yes, he's SE7toSG3
  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,332
    Great speech Clive , looked very smart as well mate.

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  • red_murph
    red_murph Posts: 2,460
    What a great speech and occasion.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,859
    That's a lovely video. Well done Clive.

    Just one thing, (and please excuse my ignorance), but who is Donald and what is his back story?
    I ask only out of respectful curiosity because I always get a bit choked up when I see a military old boy in these sort of situations - so obviously brimming with pride and rightly so.

    So if it's ok, what's his story?
    (And if it's not, please accept my apologies.)
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,303
    http://www.charltonlive.co.uk/2014/11/03/charlton-live-sunday-2nd-november-2014/

    Long interview with Clive from 46 mins and he even names the possible third casualty among a lot of other stories and details.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,859
    Cheers Henners.
    I'll give that a listen later.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,798
    Fantastic work Clive. Very well done.
  • Glovepup
    Glovepup Posts: 1,747
    Henry Irving said:

    http://www.charltonlive.co.uk/2014/11/03/charlton-live-sunday-2nd-november-2014/

    Long interview with Clive from 46 mins and he even names the possible third casualty among a lot of other stories and details.

    Thanks for the plug Henry. I listened to it on my way to work, loved every minute of the interview.

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