Penalty

Derek1952

Just been looking at the BBC sports website, and there,s a clip of South Korea taking a penalty.The person taking the kick touches the ball and another player from outside the box runs up to score.I did not think that was leagal.I know Pires tried a few seasons ago,so does this set a president for penalty taking.

dizzee

Should be illegal. Police need to clamp down on these sorts of things.

soapy_jones

Derek1952 said:

Just been looking at the BBC sports website, and there,s a clip of South Korea taking a penalty.The person taking the kick touches the ball and another player from outside the box runs up to score.I did not think that was leagal.I know Pires tried a few seasons ago,so does this set a president for penalty taking.

Maybe only a small dictator... ;0)

Not sure Derek, never seen it happen before. Any experts out there? (silly question on CL I know...)

craigcafc

It's not an illegal routine, except it's blatant encroaching by the 2nd player - he's near enough on the penalty spot when its rolled to him!

colthe3rd

craigcafc said:

It's not an illegal routine, except it's blatant encroaching by the 2nd player - he's near enough on the penalty spot when its rolled to him!

This.

/thread.

cafc999

Ajax done this in the 70's and Arsenal tried to do this in the Prem not to long ago

lordromford

Jesper Olsen and Johan Cruyff wasn't it?

LargeAddick

As long as the ball moves forward and the second players comes from outside the penalty area then I think it is ok.

guinnessaddick

LargeAddick said:

As long as the ball moves forward and the second players comes from outside the penalty area then I think it is ok.

It doesn't need to move forward.

Ross

When Arsenal failed it was because Pires didn't actually touch the ball.

Chizz

guinnessaddick said:

LargeAddick said:

As long as the ball moves forward and the second players comes from outside the penalty area then I think it is ok.

It doesn't need to move forward.

...but it needs to move by at least 27 inches

guinnessaddick

Chizz said:

guinnessaddick said:

LargeAddick said:

As long as the ball moves forward and the second players comes from outside the penalty area then I think it is ok.

It doesn't need to move forward.

...but it needs to move by at least 27 inches

I think they did away with that a few years ago.

DRAddick

Yep. Used to be ball had to roll its circumference now just has to visibly move.

Would have been a legit penalty if not for the 2nd player encroaching before taker touched the ball.

PL54

I never knew this.

So the penalty taker could pass the ball to his left or right, as long as it goes marginally forward, for someone to come in and larrup a moving ball ?

Why doesn't that happen more often ?

Charltonparklane

Was thinking about this the other day.

How fricking ultra confident were they that they would win no matter what to try this.

lordromford

lordromford said:

Jesper Olsen and Johan Cruyff wasn't it?

Apologies for quoting myself, but this is it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJHN1mN5SCg

cafc999

Could this not be interpreted as unsporting like conduct?

Garrymanilow

cafc999 said:

Could this not be interpreted as unsporting like conduct?

Why? There's nothing unsporting going on. The ball can be played by anyone once it is kicked by the taker. No different to a player touching a free kick to the side before another player hits it

cafc999

Garrymanilow said:

cafc999 said:

Could this not be interpreted as unsporting like conduct?

Why? There's nothing unsporting going on. The ball can be played by anyone once it is kicked by the taker. No different to a player touching a free kick to the side before another player hits it

A free kick is just that though isn't it? A penalty is not a free kick.

It's a bit like when the striker does a feint in his run up to the penalty spot to put the keeper off. Some refs have said that performing that is unsporting yet they allow keepers to jump about.

I personally think it's great though

Stone

LargeAddick said:

As long as the ball moves forward and the second players comes from outside the penalty area then I think it is ok.

This is correct. Only at kick off and the taking of a penalty does the ball have to be played forward.

ValleyGary

Garrymanilow said:

cafc999 said:

Could this not be interpreted as unsporting like conduct?

Why? There's nothing unsporting going on. The ball can be played by anyone once it is kicked by the taker. No different to a player touching a free kick to the side before another player hits it

If someone done that though they would be asking for a crunching tackle straight from kick off. Piss take.

AFKABartram

You know we would cock this up, right?

Macronate

AFKABartram said:

You know we would cock this up, right?

not if we had Buyens running up and knocking the ball forwards allowing the on-rushing Simon Church to smash the ball into the net past the poor goalkeeper.

Charltonparklane

Don't know why for one minute you would try to make a penalty any easier (if it does make it easier at all)

Its free shot into a large area 12yrds out, not very hard at all imo.

Stu_of_Kunming

Charltonparklane said:

Don't know why for one minute you would try to make a penalty any easier (if it does make it easier at all)

Its free shot into a large area 12yrds out, not very hard at all imo.

This was my first thought, doing little 'tricks' like this make it much, much harder, surely?

ricky_otto

I don't understand the need to do anything other thn have a direct shot on goal from a penalty. It's a 50/50 chance of scoring, so why risk cocking it up?

Nicky Bailey could show them a thing or two from the spot. That's if they find the ball from the Swindon play off game.

Charltonparklane

ricky_otto said:

I don't understand the need to do anything other that have a direct shot on goal from a penalty. It's a 50/50 chance of scoring, so why jeopardise it?

98/02 chance of scoring.

anybody 50/50 chance of scoring would not be taking one for me!!!!

Fumbluff

yeah this could be a great thing in a penalty shoot out, why not involve the whole team?

Kiely#1

Second pass offside?

Kiely#1

Or is it whoosh?

bobmunro

Kiely#1 said:

Second pass offside?

To me it looks like Cruyff is behind the ball as Olsen hits it back across - so onside.