Watched documentary on them last night. Only had a vague idea of them before hand.
Very interesting and gives a lot away. They were unique but probably the most gritty ugly horrible bunch of players you could play against. Was before my time but the dressing room stories sound quite explosive.
They basically already had a psychological upper hand on opponents that went Plough Park before a ball was even kicked. Fear being the key word.
John Fashnus a weird fella.
Anyone watch it?
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Fashnu is a nasty piece of work. Apparently ending someone's career isn't going too far!
Fashanu comes across as a complete and utter bell and very strange.
The Gibson comments are interesting.
I now want to know what Eric Young is doing! (Wiki says he an Accountant). A slightly different career path.
Didn't mind them at the time but found that programme a bit depressing.
His childhood was probably not ideal but don't we all have problems.
You still know the difference between right and wrong.
Sounds like no one put him in his place throughout his whole adult life, there's your problem.
Too used to behaving like a c*nt and getting away with it.
@ChrisPezPerry: @dave_chilldog22 Parts are accurate, parts are exaggerated and parts are fabricated.
The soundtrack was fantastic. Being a teenager in the 80s I loved the music;
Someone should have told Bobby Gould that he had something in the side of his mouth as he looked like he had rabies or something; and
John Fashanu is a proper idiot. He just came across as someone that is desperate to grab attention - any attention at all.
The rest of the players, including Vinnie Jones and Dennis Wise, came across well. The frank comments about life there from those that struggled with it gave credibility to some of the, obvious, exaggerated stories.
Biggest thing, however, was the fact that much of what was on there I didn't know or had forgotten. Even though I was jealous of them at the time as they made our achievements pale into insignificance, when what we achieved at that time was magnificent, by the end of the show I felt I was routing for some of them. Andy Thorne, in particular, came across very humbly, and Wally Downes, having been there since 1978, came across as legend for the club - all be it he left with Beasent and missed the Cup Final.
I hope that BT Sport look to make more documentaries about football clubs and events that were not so well covered by the media at the time and I thought this was a great bit to viewing, even if a lot of it was made up to give those insecure more attention - Fashanu!
Also think that Wally Downes came across as a bit of a horrible bully boy, and that all of the perceived banter and high jinks, would have felt like merciless bullying and torture if you were on the wrong end of it (as I think the John Scales interviews were aimed at demonstrating).
Loved the way that Fashanu implies that Lawrie Sanchez disliked him, because he was a rich black man, thus playing the race/minority card, yet was happy to disown his own brother, who was of course in the minute minority (population of one), of openly gay footballers.
Love the Terry Gibson reality check linked to above. Don't think he's a particularly good commentator on Spanish football, but he strikes me as a decent bloke whenever he's been interviewed, and talks a lot of sense in that piece.
Fashanu is an utter pillock. Always has been, always will be. Vinnie Jones was actually a pretty decent player - but his Hardman schtick wore thin a couple of decades ago. He's developed into that saddest of all things - a parody of himself