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**Luzon Confirmed Charlton Head Coach - Deal to 2016 - Praise the Lord, Work Permit GRANTED (pg 24)*

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  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,235
    Have things just got better, or have they just got a lot worse
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,792
    edited January 2015
    cabbles said:

    cafc-west said:

    cabbles said:

    Someone just posted this on the FB group. If you look at this and the one above they have Saturday's score line on the big screen. Were these photos taken after Saturday's game?????

    Hard to tell - but could be a Photoshopped picture. Bit too light to be late Saturday afternoon/evening.

    :smile: I'm pretty sure it was taken on Wednesday. Reckon they just hadn't taken down the score board for some reason.

    Agree, but the scoreboard isn't switched on all the time. It would have had to be turned on especially, even if for some unrelated reason. In any event, why on earth would you set up a publicity picture with a losing scoreline in the background? It's very basic stuff.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,513
    cabbles said:

    Someone just posted this on the FB group. If you look at this and the one above they have Saturday's score line on the big screen. Were these photos taken after Saturday's game?????

    Nice try but that's not Scarfy
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited January 2015
    cabbles said:

    Someone juvst posted this on the FB group. If you look at this and the one above they have Saturday's score line on the big screen. Were these photos taken after Saturday's game?????

    They probably have the screen ready for the next home game and will just change the opponents name nearer the game.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990

    cabbles said:

    Someone juvst posted this on the FB group. If you look at this and the one above they have Saturday's score line on the big screen. Were these photos taken after Saturday's game?????

    They probably have the screen ready for the next home game and will just change the opponents name nearer the game.

    Disappointing results from the scoreboard recently - hasn't put in a winning performance since October.

    Not good enough.

    It's been told to up it's game for the next home match.


  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    cabbles said:

    Someone just posted this on the FB group. If you look at this and the one above they have Saturday's score line on the big screen. Were these photos taken after Saturday's game?????

    It's not dark enough for late evening Saturday
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,859

    cabbles said:

    cafc-west said:

    cabbles said:

    Someone just posted this on the FB group. If you look at this and the one above they have Saturday's score line on the big screen. Were these photos taken after Saturday's game?????

    Hard to tell - but could be a Photoshopped picture. Bit too light to be late Saturday afternoon/evening.

    :smile: I'm pretty sure it was taken on Wednesday. Reckon they just hadn't taken down the score board for some reason.

    Agree, but the scoreboard isn't switched on all the time. It would have had to be turned on especially, even if for some unrelated reason. In any event, why on earth would you set up a publicity picture with a losing scoreline in the background? It's very basic stuff.
    True. They are so crap at PR it's both painful and funny.
  • Unsure where to post this but a very interesting post from reams on ITTV I know a lot of people don't believe things he says but some of this ties on with some hints that have been dropped by CL posters:




    Ok I know that some people on here do not believe that I have a very close associate connected with the club but the truth is I do and I have the following information which I have had the green light to share with you.

    Roland has an arrangement where he gets all of our games streamed back to Belgium and he watches most of them Live. Five minutes after the defeat to Brighton he contacted KM with the instruction to dismiss Bob Peeters with immediate affect with one of the reasons being that he had seen enough.

    Peeters was monitored following the public lambasting of TBH, RD was furious that in house matters had been brought out publicly, but a far more serious matter was brought to his attention two weeks ago by a member of the board who informed him that some players and two members of staff were furious with Peeters and his coaching staff because he has been slagging them off in Dutch for some time.

    Some of the players picked up on this possibly through JBG and confronted Peeters and his two right hand men and tussles have taken place on the training ground. A Director was informed who notified RD.(This is why all three were sacked not just Peeters).

    It also transpires that Bob had completely lost the dressing room against Brighton and couldn't make a decision as to what to do so Damien Matthew and Ben Roberts stepped in and took over, it is also said that punches have been thrown in the dressing room too.

    There was also talk of new players coming in and when he asked if they were from inside the network the reply he got was that while they cannot rule it out, the targets were indeed from OUTSIDE of the network.

    I'm told that Roland really wants to make CAFC work but will not put up with people not performing.

    (This info has not come from him or anyone relating to the current owners)

    Read more: http://intothevalley.proboards.com/thread/17319/truth-peeters-exit-new
    -players#ixzz3Ov3kGJRS
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    edited January 2015


    Roland has an arrangement where he gets all of our games streamed back to Belgium and he watches most of them Live.

    No wonder it's said he doesn't like football.


  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    On one hand I'd like all that to be true

    On the other hand Hmmmmmm

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  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,792
    I've previously heard the live stream story from inside the club.
  • Well as GJ says we have had hints for weeks so this does fit the bill. AB's post doesn't detract from it does it ?
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,991
    Some of this does stack up to what has been heard and as PL54 states, on one hand I'd like that to be true but on the other???

    Do not know why WSS has LOL'd though?
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,120
    Because I laughed out loud on the train.

    Seemed appropriate.
  • Yep I reckon it fits as well.

    We've been getting steadily worse month after month but the last couple of performances have been particularly poor in my eyes...like the players, or enough of them anyway, had simply packed up trying.
    I'd never suggest the players consciously or subconsciously set out to lose....but they certainly didn't try to win. The ultimate break down with the manager and irreversible....he had to go.
  • Think Reams might have nailed that one.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
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    Unsure where to post this but a very interesting post from reams on ITTV I know a lot of people don't believe things he says but some of this ties on with some hints that have been dropped by CL posters:


    Thanks for re-posting, GJ.

    Certainly seems to back up what we've been hearing.

  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,859
    Sounds very plausible.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,388
    edited January 2015
    If that's true, RD may be winning me over. Still completely mishandled Luzon's appointment though.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,782
    Wouldn't really be surprising if any/all of that was true.

    I expect van Houdt and Kiala would have always gone when Peeters left, whatever happened. They were his staff, they had worked with him before (and in van Houdt's case, he's also Peeters' brother-in-law).

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  • Paddy7 said:

    Managers change in different circumstances, but the selection of a new man should surely bring with it at least the promise of a new dawn; a sense of hope and ambition, yet I'm left with the feeling that little has really changed. Luzon will have my support because he's now leading CAFC - I was going to use the term "managing" but that's where things start to feel wrong.

    Clearly the team needs an injection of quality. Will the new man be allowed to juggle his limited resources and use his knowledge and contacts to attract players he feels will significantly improve his squad? I doubt it - instead he's likely to be offered more heads from within the owner's network, and, like his predecessors from RD's little harem of coaches, told to get blood out of a stone within six months.

    I've tried to be patient and give RD's plans a chance - he doesn't appear to be fleecing us financially for short-term gain, and has made the much-trumpeted structural changes. I'm not storming off in a sulk or tearing up my season ticket, just as I don't boo and slam my seat up every time a result doesn't quite match my hopes. But it definitely leaves me feeling more detached from my club when we're left with a revolving door of "head coaches" who'll have little chance to leave any legacy, and who are rendered almost irrelevant figureheads for a distant dispassionate owner.

    I used to laugh at clubs run like this. Now I support one.

    I used to laugh at clubs run like this. Now I support one..........................And people still think Duchatelet has done alright!

  • Although that news is quite positive, that still, for me, doesn't excuse his appointment of Luzon
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited January 2015
    I heard from an extremely reliable source about the dressing room and things getting more than heated. Anyway what's done is done.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,388

    Although that news is quite positive, that still, for me, doesn't excuse his appointment of Luzon

    My thoughts exactly GJ.
  • NWCorner
    NWCorner Posts: 218
    Reams has got it spot on !
  • It certainly confirms my feeling that while the team needs strengthening, it has been under performing these last few weeks. The lethargic performances were unacceptable.

    In a situation where trust in RD isn't very high, in a funny way he needs a couple of external purchases this window to prove his intent...
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,991
    NWCorner said:

    Reams has got it spot on !

    Are you just agreeing with what reams has posted or do you know that what he has posted to be true?
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,740
    Out of interest who is Reams and what is his association with CAFC?
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,642
    edited January 2015

    Although that news is quite positive, that still, for me, doesn't excuse his appointment of Luzon

    My biggest concern with the appointment of Luzon is not the man, although that may change come the next few weeks but the complete pigs ear that they have made of it. Whilst I would have been disappointed that there was not a process for recruitment of a new manager with alternative candidates, I can understand that RD wanted his own man*. This being the case he should have been transparent and honest with us instead of this charade, which has further destroyed his credibility and completely destroyed KM's and at the same time humiliated her.

    *It is not that unusual in industry for senior positions to be filled without a recruitment process.
  • NWCorner
    NWCorner Posts: 218
    cafc999 said:

    NWCorner said:

    Reams has got it spot on !

    Are you just agreeing with what reams has posted or do you know that what he has posted to be true?
    Pretty much ties in with what I was told last week. There was also a big bust up in Oct, where Bob rubbished and ridiculed Michael Morrison in front of all the lads which did not go down well at all and things have got worse from there. He was not liked at all at SL.
    I think DM and BR will be pleased to see the back of him !

    A question was put to one of the back room team (I won't say who) after the game on Sat from someone I know that Bob could get the sack, the answer was " good, everyone fucking hates him ".