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Press at the Valley today. (Luzon Press Conf)
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It's not a personal attack on him. It's about the crass way the club is conducting itself. If he wasn't ready, they should have given it another day or two, until the press conference was given. What did they think the media would ask him FFSSwisdom said:Fuck me people - give the bloke a chance.
His chair is still spinning from Bob's departure so he won't have all the answers.
If we hadn't done a press conference there would have been people up in arms about the secrecy of the club - so we do a press conference and belittle the fact he doesn't know the ins and outs of a ducks arse!
Maybe - just maybe - the club simply can't win!8 -
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Fuck me sideways - I can't believe that was said. Yes, he could be our Ferguson, but then again he could also be our David Moyes. FFS!!Bubble said:
Touche Katrien, Touche .... You want to leave me here to fend for myself Roland, with old 'Roll out Richard' well take a look at this absolute whoppershirty5 said:
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Chris Powell must be thanking his lucky stars he escaped this lunatic asylum.6
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Our Alex ferguson????? Please someone get the drugs she's on.
All he is, is an Israeli Paddy McGuinness4 -
Could this finally be the quote that beats the Pardew special "Andy Gray will take us to the next level"?Greenie Junior said:Our Alex ferguson????? Please someone get the drugs she's on.
All he is, is an Israeli Paddy McGuinness6 -
Won't take him long to sort that out.The Red Robin said:His English is atrocious.
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I've just watched the clip and..................................................I'm almost lost for words, it was awful and I'm planning my trip to Fleetwood for next season1
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Can someone post a transcript ?
I couldn't understand a word of that interview.
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I'm normally one who says get behind a new manager but this whole appointments stinks to high heaven.
He looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights and how on earth are the players going to relate to ( or understand) what this man is talking about.
Any trust i had in the people running the club has now ebbed away and like others i'm actually very angry at was has happened in the last couple of days.
People who are defending Katrien Meire should take a good look at themselves. She HAS lied to us. There is no way they interviewed anybody else for the job and if she , or RD , want's to keep taking us for fools then that would be a massive mistake.
There is nothing more i would like than for us to win at Watford on Saturday and for Luzon to turn things around because i'm a Charlton fan but let's face it. That's highly unlikely with someone who could write what he knows about The Championship on the back of a postage stamp.
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why is everyone so bothered about his English? Took Pochiettino nearly a year to even mutter a word in English so he is streets ahead of that. Or perhaps he should have spoken in Israeli with an interpreter as that would have given you all another stick to beat him over the head with. Jeez, give the guy a break.4
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Neither can a lot of our fans tbf.Mikey-cafc said:Can barely speak a word of English
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If anyone wanted proof that our club has become a rich mans experimental shambles, the chaotic press conference was it.
We, the supporters, the only stable asset this club now has, are being taken for complete fools by RD & KM. We are being lied to time and time again. The trouble is we feel powerless to do anything about it.
Any suggestions?
A very confused and angry,
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I'm looking for positives and all I've got so far is that he didn't unveil Ched Evans as the solution to our striker problem.28
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Please don't go giving Roly ideas of where to get a striker on the cheap...Uboat said:I'm looking for positives and all I've got so far is that he didn't unveil Ched Evans as the solution to our striker problem.
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The main problem is that they are lying to themselves. RD believes you can impose a different business model onto football and succeed, despite any proof. It depends upon thinking that all his players and coaches can be fitted in somewhere in the network and that all his clubs are really one club. He expects this to work and when it does not he blames the coaches
We are stuck with this until RD gets fed up with failure and sells the club. By that time we could be anywhere.3 -
Are you lot still moaning?2
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Are you still moaning about other people not having the same view as you?ValleyGary said:Are you lot still moaning?
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Its a question mate, not a moan.Henry Irving said:
Are you still moaning about other people not having the same view as you?ValleyGary said:Are you lot still moaning?
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Love to know what Solly, JJ etc are thinking at the moment.0
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no offence my friend, but you don't go every week as a you play / manage Saturday's, don't you?ValleyGary said:Are you lot still moaning?
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Press conferences mean little even though I have to say it was car crash TV and not very well managed.
Post match comments mean little
"Passion" shown on the touch line by manager mean even less.
Results matter.
So far he is unbeaten (and he's not won a game either).
Do he, the network or this PR disaster given me much confidence that he will succeed? No, not much but it is the results.1 -
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Let the Belgian, see the Charlton!Greenie Junior said:Our Alex ferguson????? Please someone get the drugs she's on.
All he is, is an Israeli Paddy McGuinness8 -
Pochettino could speak English, he just didn't want to to the press…and Pochettino had actually achieved something before he came here.LargeAddick said:why is everyone so bothered about his English? Took Pochiettino nearly a year to even mutter a word in English so he is streets ahead of that. Or perhaps he should have spoken in Israeli with an interpreter as that would have given you all another stick to beat him over the head with. Jeez, give the guy a break.
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Charlton: Richard Murray defends Guy Luzon appointment following fan unrest
By Rob Virtue on January 14, 2015 3:00 PM | Tagged with: Charlton Athletic
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Charlton chairman Richard Murray attempted to quell dissatisfaction from fans following a outpouring of anger on social media over the appointment of Guy Luzon as head coach.
The Israeli replaced Bob Peeters this week, a move that upset The Valley faithful who wanted a someone experienced in the English league.
Luzon's only managing experience outside of Israel has been at Standard Liege, a club also under the control of Charlton owner Roland Duchatelet - and he sacked Luzon in October in just his second season at the Belgium side.
But, speaking at the press conference unveiling Luzon to the media on Wednesday, Murray said: "It is important we all pull together and I really hope the fans give Guy every chance as they did to Jose Riga and to Bob Peeters.
"But in my opinion the most important relationship by a long way is between the owner and the manager. There's got to be trust there otherwise he will not get backing - by backing that means bringing players in.
"We all have go to guys. Everyone's a risk but Guy has a relationship with the owner and that's a good start because if you get somebody totally unknown in you either give total carte blanche to the manager, which I don't think is the owner's style, or you don't.
"I'm pleased they've continued to have a good relationship and that should help us in the long run."
Chief executive Katrien Meire said she was not worried about the anger from the fans over the appointment, which included confusion of why the owner appointed a head coach he had only recently dismissed.
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"They have their opinion," she said. "I would be more worried if they were not passionate about their club."
Murray also stressed the backroom team would remain the same, including Damian Matthew and Ben Roberts, who were put in joint charge of the team, albeit briefly, on Monday.
"Our specialist coaches, fitness, sports science, physio, Guy is going to be working with them," said the chairman.
"He's not bringing in a team of assistants which very regularly happens when managers change. So, though we've had a number of head coaches, a lot of our infrastructure is as was."
Luzon also rejected concerns over a lack of experience in English football, pointing to his early experience at Liege which saw the side finish in second position.
"When I arrived in Belgium 18 months ago a lot of people in the media, and in the club as well, said I don't have a lot of experience in European football and I don't know the Belgium league," he said.
"In my first season there was the strange situation where they cut the points so we weren't champions. But we got the most points in the league."
Speaking of the side's subsequent decline, which saw them 12th out of 16 teams in the Belgian top flight, he added: "We then made a lot of changes and, in football, history is not important. If you don't get the results you go home."
Luzon was appointed as manager on Tuesday evening and said he was yet to meet the team. However, he knew many such as Yoni Buyens, Tal Ben Haim and Tony Watt from Liege, and said that can only be a benefit.
He added taking the job at Charlton was an easy decision.
"First, I came for the English football - the most interesting football in the world," said the 39-year-old. "I've watched a lot of Premier League games and the tempo, rhythm and atmosphere is fantastic. It's a great challenge.
"My first target is to get some momentum and bring results. After that we'll see.
"I'm the kind of guy who hates to lose and loves to win. Football is my love and my passion. I will do everything with a lot of passion to create results."
The former under-21 boss of the Israel national team said he had yet to discuss a January budget with the owner and would not be drawn on potential transfers.
"I'm only 12 hours here and am just focused on the game against Watford," he said. "After that game we will start to see what we need.
"I've seen a couple of games of Charlton and when I was coach of Standard Liege I followed Charlton games because some players from Standard play here. I think Charlton has a good base of players and a good squad.
"I haven't yet coached the team. I need to work with them and then firstly say to them my plans for the future."
Katrien Miere on the recruitment process for the position of head coach
When asked about whether other candidates were interviewed for the role, the chief executive was coy on details.
Interviewer: Was Guy the only candidate considered for the job?
KM: "As soon as we went live with the sacking of Bob Peeters, within an hour I had 20 applications. So there were several candidates but by late evening it became clear that Guy was the favourite."
Was he the only manager you interviewed?
"No."
Anyone with from within English football?
"I think most managers who didn't get the job wouldn't like me to disclose that kind of information."
Without naming names can you say whether you considered English based managers?
"No (shakes head)."
What makes you think Guy is the right man for the job?
"What makes him right is his calmness and being good at his job at difficult moments. Charlton are having a difficult moment and he showed at Standard Liege that he can perform under pressure."15 -
Apparently Pochiettino did speak English but not to the media and I though that was wrong.LargeAddick said:why is everyone so bothered about his English? Took Pochiettino nearly a year to even mutter a word in English so he is streets ahead of that. Or perhaps he should have spoken in Israeli with an interpreter as that would have given you all another stick to beat him over the head with. Jeez, give the guy a break.
I am bothered by his lack of spoken English as we are an English club and whilst our players come from a few different countries for most of them English is the common language and therefore the Head Coach must be able to communicate well with them and please don't say that he can use Ben Haim as an interpreter as that just won't do.0 -
Football is a universal language, anyway I have it on good authority that Luzon puts his ideas across in the form of contemporary Dance/Drama to a backdrop of Conceptual Art.8
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