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Matthew and Roberts back in charge at Charlton as Luzon misses out on work permit

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  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,859
    edited January 2015
    Swisdom said:

    Pretty sure the paperwork would be handled by a couple of seasoned veterans at the club and by going on about this we could well be putting them out of a job

    Right out of the STAPRIX handbook: blame the one's with experience and turf them out to cover our insecurities and ineptitude.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,946
    Why don't they move the game to Belgium??
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    Think we need a bit of perspective here. If it was a player we were trying to sign we'd all be seething at the home office.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Got it now. The first question was:

    'Speaking after your first training session as Charlton coach, how was it?'

    ....and the answer isn't 'I wasn't really working as I don't have permission yet'.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,812
    colthe3rd said:

    Think we need a bit of perspective here. If it was a player we were trying to sign we'd all be seething at the home office.

    But we're not because it doesn't suit the mob
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
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  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,076
    Every now and then a club makes a managerial appointment where everyone knows it will end in disaster.

    I fear this may be one of those appointments....
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    End in disaster?
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053

    Does that mean he broke the law when he took training ?

    Only if he is being paid for it

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  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,741
    Swisdom said:

    If this were a Premiership club it would have been sorted in hours but we are not big enough for the Home Office to sort their shit out

    Pretty sure the paperwork would be handled by a couple of seasoned veterans at the club and by going on about this we could well be putting them out of a job

    Exactly.

    You can be assured that the Home Office would have indicated to the club that the work permit would be processed by the weekend.

    Somewhere along the line that process has fallen down. The club can't force it through. Pretty obvious who is to blame, but once again the feeding frenzy starts.

    All the club are guilty of is perhaps not sticking a line in the press release that said Luzon would take charge at Watford subject to his work permit coming through in time.

    Lets not beat around the bush if the club had held back because they thought the WP wouldn't be done for tomorrow they would have been crucified and accused of covering things up.

    Can't win.

  • Could the club just say he wasn't paid for taking that session?
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    WSS said:

    It's a farce regardless of whose fault it is.

    If it's the home office's fault it's a farce their end.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,745
    Rothko said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Think we need a bit of perspective here. If it was a player we were trying to sign we'd all be seething at the home office.

    But we're not because it doesn't suit the mob
    The problem, Rothko, is that this is pretty much how the club is being run day to day, it's just not visible to most of the supporters most of the time.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Now that's a good get out, it was voluntary work. Sorted.
  • cafcledbury
    cafcledbury Posts: 1,228
    Let's grass him up to the home office.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    If the Home Office call Luzon out, it won't be because they've been reading Charlton Life.
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,859
    Rothko said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Think we need a bit of perspective here. If it was a player we were trying to sign we'd all be seething at the home office.

    But we're not because it doesn't suit the mob
    C'mon, this has been handled awfully right from the start. Own goal after own goal. Nothing to do with the mob.

    The issues here can't be seen individually, it's the totality.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,741
    seth plum said:

    If the Home Office call Luzon out, it won't be because they've been reading Charlton Life.

    No, it will be because you have phoned them.

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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Clem_Snide, are you now my official stalker after PL54 gave up?
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,812
    LoOkOuT said:

    Rothko said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Think we need a bit of perspective here. If it was a player we were trying to sign we'd all be seething at the home office.

    But we're not because it doesn't suit the mob
    C'mon, this has been handled awfully right from the start. Own goal after own goal. Nothing to do with the mob.

    The issues here can't be seen individually, it's the totality.
    No you're right
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,157
    @Rothko @Clem_Snide @Swisdom so what is the normal length of time to gain a work permit? You all appear to be well informed.

    When you say that an FAPL club would have had this sorted out quickly, are you implying that money smoothes the path of a work permit? That's a pretty serious allegation, if so.

    You are presumptuous about your fellow Lifers to assume that their reaction is part of a witch hunt against Katrien. Personally I would be surprised to learn that a work permit would normally be processed in less than a working week. Perhaps Katrien counted on that, but suddenly found she was in a situation where she had rather less than a week.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,199
    Lock him up or deport him.
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,897
    Curbs must have a new job at the Home Office.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,535
    I really don't know whether to laugh or cry - I thought this was a wind-up when I just saw the thread title...
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,759
    Macronate said:

    Curbs must have a new job at the Home Office.

    Or Paul Jewell
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,852
    Just ridiculous.

    So the UK Border Force fuck up and it's down to KM, RD, the guy who makes the tea at Sparrows Lane because he knows a Belgian, Brussel sprouts, oh and Hercule Poirot.

    Luzon will get a work permit for sure.

    What it might indicate is that his appointment wasn't planned well in advance as all the conspiracy theorists would have us believe.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,472
    Surely the Roland network has it's own home office and permit system!

    Anyone working from one Roland subsidiary to another is fine I'm sure.
    :-)

  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,472
    No work permit so under the laws of immigration no job.

    He's good for a four bed semi in plumstead though!