Not funny, not well written. Don't get the point of that article. I thought KM was QPR?
Wasn't he Millwall then decided their fans weren't very nice so started watching us when conveniently we were in the Prem then after a couple of relegations decided QPR was easier to get to? Again conveniently as they got their injection of money.
Not funny, not well written. Don't get the point of that article. I thought KM was QPR?
Wasn't he Millwall then decided their fans weren't very nice so started watching us when conveniently we were in the Prem then after a couple of relegations decided QPR was easier to get to? Again conveniently as they got their injection of money.
He's always been Charlton I thought.
He says he has, but when we went down to L1 he done a poll in his Sun article of what club he should go and support cos we were crap. QPR was the club 'chosen'. The blokes a proper prick.
Not funny, not well written. Don't get the point of that article. I thought KM was QPR?
Wasn't he Millwall then decided their fans weren't very nice so started watching us when conveniently we were in the Prem then after a couple of relegations decided QPR was easier to get to? Again conveniently as they got their injection of money.
He's always been Charlton I thought.
I thought he was a Millwall go-er who 'switched' to Charlton during our return / Premiership years. Never had him down as a lifelong fan, and his silly comments about switching elsewhere again after we went sour kind of shows that. I think he got himself in with the Slater / Jiminez / Cash group when they took over and seemed to take interest again.
never knew that his first job was on the Mercury. I'll give him some dues, he is never out of work for long and i think has made some decent money along the way, particularly from investing in his son's firm.
Was part of the old Blog, have found the article but have sadly not got all the comment replies. This was from 2009. Some of it actually feels quite pertinent to now....
Why Kelvin and his crew will never quite get it……
A few days away and a welcome break from all things Charlton. Its not until you take a step away from the vortex of misery you realise with a calmer approach just how ridiculously pathetic the scope of our efforts have been this season.
Rooted at the bottom of the Premiership amid a gulf in class and finance is unpleasant for anyone, but a more than likely scenario these days with the way the structure of our game has progressed.
For it to happen quite so candidly in the Championship, particularly as there have been no Titanic events causing us to sink so quickly, is simply astonishing. We have not entered administration or had to sell all our best players (sic) on mass, we have not had players on strike, or staff going months unpaid etc. The Zabeel non-deal was a distraction, but nothing to the size of derailing our whole season quite so spectacularly. As I wrote last month, there has been a catastrophic combination of events and individuals that have coincided to leave us where we are. I'll let others pore over the details if it makes them feel happy, but I'm spent, and just want this season to end yesterday.
Our plight has led Sun Columnist Kelvin McKenzie to show his true colours at long last. A man that gets through more football teams than Vanessa Feltz gets through cream cakes, 'our Kelvin' has threatened to pack his latest toy away and unleash his fickleness onto QPR next season. A man whose career and industry has been built around issuing savage verbal beatings and kicking a man when he is down, I'm sure there is part of him that is loving our current plight and allowing himself freedom to put the written boot in.
Should we be surprised ? Not really. It's not great reading, but we know deep down that the likes of Kelvin are not true Charlton fans like me or you. They came to The Valley in the rising years, not to see Mendonca and Kinsella, but to see Owen and Beckham. It was, after all, what our club advertised to fill our expanding venue; a seat to watch Premiership football amid a safe environment and competitive pricing. And now we are seeing the downside.
The hope with the advertising was that it would not just raise revenues and fill seats, it would turn floating football fans into fully-fledged Charlton fans of the future. However, Kelvin and his ilk signed up not for the adventure, but for the promise. They could never understand the respect from the people around them for what they saw as limited players such as Robinson and Brown, they stared in bemusement as fellow fans stood tall and proud to sing VFR whilst relegated against Spurs, and they would never dream of using their non-Charlton Saturday every fortnight to travel north of the M25 to see their adopted team.
'Kelvin from Sevenoaks' was one of the main callers on Talksport during our Premiership years. He managed to get through every week (mainly because what they didn't tell you was that he was the station boss at the time) and consistently put the boot in about Curbishley; About the dire football, the lack of ambition etc. Even in our best period for fifty years it was not good enough for Kelvin and his crew, but that will fit the remit of those who care to know nothing of our history, or take general pride that we were a well-respected small club with a good reputation, holding our own against the bloated big boys. Kelvin and his crew just wanted more.
He was one of the ones we were all scratching our heads wondering where they came from when there appeared to be a Charlton 'fans campaign' against Curbishley through the media, that never properly transferred itself to the terraces.
See, Kelvin and his crew are fans of football, but they will never truly experience the highs and the lows that go with living and breathing everything associated with being a football fan; The nerves in the pit of your stomach ahead of a big game, the buzz and pride in silly things like when a loud chant echoes around a stand, the joy of a last minute away winner tempered by the nerves of a dodgy walk back to the station. When a stranger asks who you are and instead of saying your name you automatically say 'Charlton'.
Kelvin and his crew will never experience those range of emotions, and for that I actually feel sorry for them. Truly supporting a football club is an unknown journey, where the destination is rarely where you envisaged it being in your dreams. But you still keep filling up with petrol and keep ploughing on, particularly in the dark times. Those that do will eventually appreciate the true meaning when the better times return more than Kelvin and his cronies could ever imagine.
So goodbye and good luck with your spell as a QPR fan Kelvin. You've caught them at a time of a growingly disenfranchised supporter base, run by people who appear more interested in turnover than supporter wishes or respect for their history. And with a team still poor enough for you to moan about. It all seems a perfect fit.
No doubt your money will be missed by our club who currently need every penny they can, but you won't be missed by the likes of me. Despite a soul-destroying league table, a hopeless manager, a collection of dire footballers, and a top tier that appears to not know its left hand from its right, I'm still proud to be a Charlton fan, as will all the other true fans you're type look upon with bemusement.
NOT sure how well Charlton Athletic (oxymoron) is being run right now.
I paid for my season ticket back in March/April and with only four days to the start of the Championship season am still waiting for it. Unsure if the problem is at the printers or in the management suite.
That may be a petty gripe but what does annoy me is that looking at the Charlton “buys” for this season there will be virtually no English players in our side.
It destroys the argument from Premier League executive chairman Richard Scudamore that if home-grown talent – who can’t get into the club team because of foreign competiton – couldn’t fill our national team then the second tier could.
It might be helpful before Mr Scudamore made such remarks if he looked at Championship squads where more players looked to Mecca than Canterbury for their inspiration.
Does he seriously believe that the way football is going there will be any English players outside the East Riding Amateur Association?
Charlton is not dissimilar to many second-tier professional clubs. In our case we have an average foreign owner, a rather good overseas manager and a collection of mercenary journeyman footballers, most of whom will be gone before the owner learns to pronounce their name.
I feel increasingly isolated from my team by the lack of home-grown talent.
Surely it’s time in the lower leagues to force managements to have at least five UK born players (even the odd one from Jockestan) in the team rather than relying exclusively on economic migrants.
Of course it might lower playing standards in the short term but if all clubs were going down together nobody would have an advantage.
And I would have the umbilical cord to my team back.
It annoys me so much that a c**t like him gets such a platform to spout his nonsense about our great club. It wasnt long ago he wanted to f**k off and support someone else.
"It might be helpful before Mr Scudamore made such remarks if he looked at Championship squads where more players looked to Mecca than Canterbury for their inspiration."
It's not the fact that he has slated our foreign Players, he wouldn't be alone in the last couple of years of doing that, but no mention of Joe Gomez and how many Academy boys have been given a chance in the previous 2 seasons ? Unlike Grade, Davidson ETC, Has any one on CL ever seen Him down the valley ?
The problem is, being Gray haired and in his late 60's it would be hard to pick him out
It's not the fact that he has slated our foreign Players, he wouldn't be alone in the last couple of years of doing that, but no mention of Joe Gomez and how many Academy boys have been given a chance in the previous 2 seasons ? Unlike Grade, Davidson ETC, Has any one on CL ever seen Him down the valley ?
The problem is, being Gray haired and in his late 60's it would be hard to pick him out
There are photos of him in the directors box when the gruesome twosome were in charge. Not on Grade or Davidson's level.
Anything that isolates him from CAFC is just fine by me. I suspect he has season tickets at assorted London clubs, so I wouldn't take his show of apparent loyalty at face value.
It's a good idea to provide little maps for the Sun readers, so they know Spain is not the bit just to the left of England.
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never knew that his first job was on the Mercury. I'll give him some dues, he is never out of work for long and i think has made some decent money along the way, particularly from investing in his son's firm.
http://www.charltonlife.com/discussion/24908/kelvin-mackenzie-in-todays-sun/p1
http://www.charltonlife.com/discussion/34632/kelvin-mackenzies-column-in-the-sun-today-charlton-pathetic/p1
actually AFKA you wrote an article on it entitled: Why KM and his crew will never get it.. its disappeared. Were you told to?
And the Guardian picked up on it..
http://www.theguardian.com/media/mediamonkeyblog/2009/apr/01/charlton-athletic-kelvin-mackenzie
right back to work.
Why Kelvin and his crew will never quite get it……
A few days away and a welcome break from all things Charlton. Its not until you take a step away from the vortex of misery you realise with a calmer approach just how ridiculously pathetic the scope of our efforts have been this season.
Rooted at the bottom of the Premiership amid a gulf in class and finance is unpleasant for anyone, but a more than likely scenario these days with the way the structure of our game has progressed.
For it to happen quite so candidly in the Championship, particularly as there have been no Titanic events causing us to sink so quickly, is simply astonishing. We have not entered administration or had to sell all our best players (sic) on mass, we have not had players on strike, or staff going months unpaid etc. The Zabeel non-deal was a distraction, but nothing to the size of derailing our whole season quite so spectacularly. As I wrote last month, there has been a catastrophic combination of events and individuals that have coincided to leave us where we are. I'll let others pore over the details if it makes them feel happy, but I'm spent, and just want this season to end yesterday.
Our plight has led Sun Columnist Kelvin McKenzie to show his true colours at long last. A man that gets through more football teams than Vanessa Feltz gets through cream cakes, 'our Kelvin' has threatened to pack his latest toy away and unleash his fickleness onto QPR next season. A man whose career and industry has been built around issuing savage verbal beatings and kicking a man when he is down, I'm sure there is part of him that is loving our current plight and allowing himself freedom to put the written boot in.
Should we be surprised ? Not really. It's not great reading, but we know deep down that the likes of Kelvin are not true Charlton fans like me or you. They came to The Valley in the rising years, not to see Mendonca and Kinsella, but to see Owen and Beckham. It was, after all, what our club advertised to fill our expanding venue; a seat to watch Premiership football amid a safe environment and competitive pricing. And now we are seeing the downside.
The hope with the advertising was that it would not just raise revenues and fill seats, it would turn floating football fans into fully-fledged Charlton fans of the future. However, Kelvin and his ilk signed up not for the adventure, but for the promise. They could never understand the respect from the people around them for what they saw as limited players such as Robinson and Brown, they stared in bemusement as fellow fans stood tall and proud to sing VFR whilst relegated against Spurs, and they would never dream of using their non-Charlton Saturday every fortnight to travel north of the M25 to see their adopted team.
'Kelvin from Sevenoaks' was one of the main callers on Talksport during our Premiership years. He managed to get through every week (mainly because what they didn't tell you was that he was the station boss at the time) and consistently put the boot in about Curbishley; About the dire football, the lack of ambition etc. Even in our best period for fifty years it was not good enough for Kelvin and his crew, but that will fit the remit of those who care to know nothing of our history, or take general pride that we were a well-respected small club with a good reputation, holding our own against the bloated big boys. Kelvin and his crew just wanted more.
He was one of the ones we were all scratching our heads wondering where they came from when there appeared to be a Charlton 'fans campaign' against Curbishley through the media, that never properly transferred itself to the terraces.
See, Kelvin and his crew are fans of football, but they will never truly experience the highs and the lows that go with living and breathing everything associated with being a football fan; The nerves in the pit of your stomach ahead of a big game, the buzz and pride in silly things like when a loud chant echoes around a stand, the joy of a last minute away winner tempered by the nerves of a dodgy walk back to the station. When a stranger asks who you are and instead of saying your name you automatically say 'Charlton'.
Kelvin and his crew will never experience those range of emotions, and for that I actually feel sorry for them. Truly supporting a football club is an unknown journey, where the destination is rarely where you envisaged it being in your dreams. But you still keep filling up with petrol and keep ploughing on, particularly in the dark times. Those that do will eventually appreciate the true meaning when the better times return more than Kelvin and his cronies could ever imagine.
So goodbye and good luck with your spell as a QPR fan Kelvin. You've caught them at a time of a growingly disenfranchised supporter base, run by people who appear more interested in turnover than supporter wishes or respect for their history. And with a team still poor enough for you to moan about. It all seems a perfect fit.
No doubt your money will be missed by our club who currently need every penny they can, but you won't be missed by the likes of me. Despite a soul-destroying league table, a hopeless manager, a collection of dire footballers, and a top tier that appears to not know its left hand from its right, I'm still proud to be a Charlton fan, as will all the other true fans you're type look upon with bemusement.
NOT sure how well Charlton Athletic (oxymoron) is being run right now.
I paid for my season ticket back in March/April and with only four days to the start of the Championship season am still waiting for it. Unsure if the problem is at the printers or in the management suite.
That may be a petty gripe but what does annoy me is that looking at the Charlton “buys” for this season there will be virtually no English players in our side.
It destroys the argument from Premier League executive chairman Richard Scudamore that if home-grown talent – who can’t get into the club team because of foreign competiton – couldn’t fill our national team then the second tier could.
It might be helpful before Mr Scudamore made such remarks if he looked at Championship squads where more players looked to Mecca than Canterbury for their inspiration.
Does he seriously believe that the way football is going there will be any English players outside the East Riding Amateur Association?
Charlton is not dissimilar to many second-tier professional clubs. In our case we have an average foreign owner, a rather good overseas manager and a collection of mercenary journeyman footballers, most of whom will be gone before the owner learns to pronounce their name.
I feel increasingly isolated from my team by the lack of home-grown talent.
Surely it’s time in the lower leagues to force managements to have at least five UK born players (even the odd one from Jockestan) in the team rather than relying exclusively on economic migrants.
Of course it might lower playing standards in the short term but if all clubs were going down together nobody would have an advantage.
And I would have the umbilical cord to my team back.
The mans an absolute f****g p***k.
Would happily chin him if i saw him.
Millwall idiot (tautology I know).
Already a six home grown player in the 18 rule which MAY rise to nine.
He obviously spends his time at the games checking on how Millwall, QPR and west ham are getting on or enjoying the boardroom hospitality.
The man is a complete and utter tosser.
So only Christian people can be English?
Wish Charlton would ban this idiot.
Which one though?
Unlike Grade, Davidson ETC, Has any one on CL ever seen Him down the valley ?
The problem is, being Gray haired and in his late 60's it would be hard to pick him out
It's a good idea to provide little maps for the Sun readers, so they know Spain is not the bit just to the left of England.