Jordan Cousins
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The problem with most of our players is that they are very good when played alongside a good player, but not so good when they have to be the good player.
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I'm not going to slate him for recent poor performances.
Why? The boy hasn't had a rest, he's playing the most demanding position on the pitch once or twice a week with no SET partner, and when it's the likes of Ba he has no support. I respect him for his performances, he's gone missing from just a couple of tackles over the course of a few seasons... I could name a handful of players who have not just gone missing from tackles but entire matches, and a couple of players just entirely gone missing. JC is giving his all - he's good enough with a good enough team around him.3 -
No, it doesn't to me, but maybe I'm misreading your viewpoint.To_Be_Franck said:The problem with most of our players is that they are very good when played alongside a good player, but not so good when they have to be the good player.
If that makes sense!
Jordan Cousins was 3rd place in POTY last season, and most people seem to think we bought in better players close season this time. So how does your proposition work re JC?
Or maybe you are making the same point as @Atletico Addick ?
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Dont you mean he won Player of the Year last season?PragueAddick said:
No, it doesn't to me, but maybe I'm misreading your viewpoint.To_Be_Franck said:The problem with most of our players is that they are very good when played alongside a good player, but not so good when they have to be the good player.
If that makes sense!
Jordan Cousins was 3rd place in POTY last season, and most people seem to think we bought in better players close season this time. So how does your proposition work re JC?
Or maybe you are making the same point as @Atletico Addick ?3 -
Yes I do. Sorry. Jet lag and shell shock.ForeverAddickted said:
Dont you mean he won Player of the Year last season?PragueAddick said:
No, it doesn't to me, but maybe I'm misreading your viewpoint.To_Be_Franck said:The problem with most of our players is that they are very good when played alongside a good player, but not so good when they have to be the good player.
If that makes sense!
Jordan Cousins was 3rd place in POTY last season, and most people seem to think we bought in better players close season this time. So how does your proposition work re JC?
Or maybe you are making the same point as @Atletico Addick ?
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Successful teams have players that compliment each other. The problem with this regime is that they just keep throwing players at the team without really understanding where they fit in. Every player needs others around them that can mop up the things they might not do so well so that they can in fact concentrate on the things they CAN do well.
Isn't that also one of the reasons Curbs was so successful? He managed to build a team of pretty average players and got them punching above their weight. There was obviously a bit of class dotted around the side, but mostly they were a team of tryers. Even the classier players had areas where they were lacking. Jensen was probably biggest bottler I've ever seen when it comes to tackling, but Curbs knew that and had players like Kinsella and Parker winning the ball for him.6 -
He is always (cliché time) wholehearted, gives 100% and has become a very important member of the team .. BUT.. the more I see of him, the more I am convinced that he does not have the all round skills to be a top midfielder, even a decent 'playmaker' of the type that we need .. I see him in a couple of years as a VERY effective, pacey, hard tackling central defender, with the caveat that his heading will need some improving .. the sooner he is given a few run outs there the better0
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I don't think he had his best game yesterday, but then who did?
Given the circumstances, and probably the fact he knew the boss was in danger of getting the chop, I'm wondering if yesterday got to him and affected his performance.0 -
Putting myself out to get shot down here but so be it, I'm still not convinced with him, has a touch of Thierry Racon disorder IMO, offers litte or nothing going forward and isn't what I'd consider a solid holding midfield player.
Would happily eat my own words if he turns out to be top drawer but I really don't rate him as a CM3 -
Agree, personally would like to see him at right back, thought he looked very good there and IMO would be better han Solly.BR7_addick said:Putting myself out to get shot down here but so be it, I'm still not convinced with him, has a touch of Thierry Racon disorder IMO, offers litte or nothing going forward and isn't what I'd consider a solid holding midfield player.
Would happily eat my own words if he turns out to be top drawer but I really don't rate him as a CM
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Well I haven't seen every game by any stretch. However apart from his 94th minute goal against Fulham I can recall numerous good on-target shots in several games.BR7_addick said:Putting myself out to get shot down here but so be it, I'm still not convinced with him, has a touch of Thierry Racon disorder IMO, offers litte or nothing going forward and isn't what I'd consider a solid holding midfield player.
Would happily eat my own words if he turns out to be top drawer but I really don't rate him as a CM
But then a lot of Charlton fans thought JonJo Shelvey wasn't worth his place in our 3rd division team...
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Chips in with the odd goal but lacks attacking qualities for me.PragueAddick said:
Well I haven't seen every game by any stretch. However apart from his 94th minute goal against Fulham I can recall numerous good on-target shots in several games.BR7_addick said:Putting myself out to get shot down here but so be it, I'm still not convinced with him, has a touch of Thierry Racon disorder IMO, offers litte or nothing going forward and isn't what I'd consider a solid holding midfield player.
Would happily eat my own words if he turns out to be top drawer but I really don't rate him as a CM
But then a lot of Charlton fans thought JonJo Shelvey wasn't worth his place in our 3rd division team...1 -
He was excellent at RB best game he's had this season.scabbyhorse said:
Agree, personally would like to see him at right back, thought he looked very good there and IMO would be better han Solly.BR7_addick said:Putting myself out to get shot down here but so be it, I'm still not convinced with him, has a touch of Thierry Racon disorder IMO, offers litte or nothing going forward and isn't what I'd consider a solid holding midfield player.
Would happily eat my own words if he turns out to be top drawer but I really don't rate him as a CM1 -
Yeah. There was a bloke on the message board called John Window who thought JonJo might just make a half decent player if we tried him as a centre back.scabbyhorse said:
Agree, personally would like to see him at right back, thought he looked very good there and IMO would be better han Solly.BR7_addick said:Putting myself out to get shot down here but so be it, I'm still not convinced with him, has a touch of Thierry Racon disorder IMO, offers litte or nothing going forward and isn't what I'd consider a solid holding midfield player.
Would happily eat my own words if he turns out to be top drawer but I really don't rate him as a CM
All about opinions, etc
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Will he get back in after the best midfield performance for some time.BR7_addick said:Putting myself out to get shot down here but so be it, I'm still not convinced with him, has a touch of Thierry Racon disorder IMO, offers litte or nothing going forward and isn't what I'd consider a solid holding midfield player.
Would happily eat my own words if he turns out to be top drawer but I really don't rate him as a CM1 -
He can't, barring injury.
Fear I'm right about him tbh0 -
I mean, he could probably play instead of Ba, but Kashi will be fit by then so like uh hmm yeah idk0
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We've only put in one good performance. A bit early to call time on Jordan making the first team.7
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Jordan wasn't missed in midfield today, RB might be his best way back in3
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Yep. Solly is struggling and needs a rest. RB next game for him. Put Holmes Dennis at left back.1
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Wasn't missed one bit.2
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I thought Ba was not good today, sorry.6
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I thought Ba's ball through to Fox for the third was brilliant. Much improved performance from him.0
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I think it was Makienok's pass to Fox for the third6
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No doubt in Cousins commitment, desire and passion for the club, but not good enough to warrant a midfield place currently.1
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To be fair they both look similar from a distance.Dizzle said:I think it was Makienok's pass to Fox for the third
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This , personally thinknhe would make a excellent right backBR7_addick said:
He was excellent at RB best game he's had this season.scabbyhorse said:
Agree, personally would like to see him at right back, thought he looked very good there and IMO would be better han Solly.BR7_addick said:Putting myself out to get shot down here but so be it, I'm still not convinced with him, has a touch of Thierry Racon disorder IMO, offers litte or nothing going forward and isn't what I'd consider a solid holding midfield player.
Would happily eat my own words if he turns out to be top drawer but I really don't rate him as a CM2 -
Hahaha. Sorry.
The ball through for fox was brilliant, Ba had a much improved game.
Need to lay off the ale. Home time I think0