So, that £15.99 an he will be over the horizon before you can bat an eyelid ! We are here forever, Joe is here until a better offer comes along, and any prem team offer is going to be better than ours.
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Special relationship we have with Arsenal. He would be our 4th highly rated youngster they took on a perm, the other 3 costing them less than £1.5M total I believe. In return they have given us that Dench bloke I can't even remember the name of and the French CM who played for us for such a short period I can't remember his name either.
Are people genuinely questioning why so few youth prospects make it in through the top teams academy in to their first teams ?? Let me explain If you are good enough to play for the top 4 you can in turn naturally play for any club below in the English structure If you are good enough for Charlton as a youngster it doesn't naturally mean you can play for any team above in the football structure Hence more youth prospects will find it easier to progress to our first team than say an Arsenal first team Hope this helps :-)
We had Scott Parker on display the other night. he chased the big bucks, and had a relatively smooth career, but will forever wonder if he could have made the England team consistently if he had'nt gone on to be a spare part of the Chelski machine. Another year for Gomez here would benefit both parties hugely.
Are people genuinely questioning why so few youth prospects make it in through the top teams academy in to their first teams ?? Let me explain If you are good enough to play for the top 4 you can in turn naturally play for any club below in the English structure If you are good enough for Charlton as a youngster it doesn't naturally mean you can play for any team above in the football structure Hence more youth prospects will find it easier to progress to our first team than say an Arsenal first team Hope this helps :-)
With the resources they have available, top 4 clubs should be able to produce better players, surely?
Are people genuinely questioning why so few youth prospects make it in through the top teams academy in to their first teams ?? Let me explain If you are good enough to play for the top 4 you can in turn naturally play for any club below in the English structure If you are good enough for Charlton as a youngster it doesn't naturally mean you can play for any team above in the football structure Hence more youth prospects will find it easier to progress to our first team than say an Arsenal first team Hope this helps :-)
Barcelona seem to bring through a fair few young players for their first team.
If Arsenal want him, they will get him, and Gomez would be mad to do anything different. Arsenal seem to be a club who behave fairly, as with Jenkinson when they could have got him without a fee if I remember correctly, and would certainly develop him as a player. Sad to say I think that a decent fee would see RD taking the bite.
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He's a quality player. If he does right by the club and we get a good lump of cash then I'll wish him well. If he sneaks of at contract end and we get nothing then he'll be a poyet in my eyes.
Are people genuinely questioning why so few youth prospects make it in through the top teams academy in to their first teams ?? Let me explain If you are good enough to play for the top 4 you can in turn naturally play for any club below in the English structure If you are good enough for Charlton as a youngster it doesn't naturally mean you can play for any team above in the football structure Hence more youth prospects will find it easier to progress to our first team than say an Arsenal first team Hope this helps :-)
Barcelona seem to bring through a fair few young players for their first team.
thats partially because of their coaching and structure, but also because of the culture of bringing in young players from their own ranks. None of the bigger clubs have that culture, except maybe now tottenham and southampton are doing well with that culture.
Quality player but if I was being overly critical I'd ask where he was for both Millwall goals that came from the right-hand side he had taken over responsibility for.
Quality player but if I was being overly critical I'd ask where he was for both Millwall goals that came from the right-hand side he had taken over responsibility for.
Tyrone Mings being watched by Arsenal. Plus every other Premier team just like Gomez.
What Joe and Tyrone have in common, as well as being level headed kids is they look class even when they make mistakes in games. Which Joe did on Tuesday and Mings did at the valley this season.
Joe came into the U-18's at 15, and I think anyone who saw him then could have seen he was potential Premier League material, albeit as a CB where he always played. So I was very surprised and delighted when he signed a 3-year contract last year after all the time he spent away with the England Youth team, where he must have heard loadsamoney tales from his colleagues from the likes of Chelski. I fully expected him to follow Palmer and Poyet, but it's good to be wrong, and it's more like he's following the Shelvey route, and we're not as desperate for cash now as we were then.
Are people genuinely questioning why so few youth prospects make it in through the top teams academy in to their first teams ?? Let me explain If you are good enough to play for the top 4 you can in turn naturally play for any club below in the English structure If you are good enough for Charlton as a youngster it doesn't naturally mean you can play for any team above in the football structure Hence more youth prospects will find it easier to progress to our first team than say an Arsenal first team Hope this helps :-)
Barcelona seem to bring through a fair few young players for their first team.
thats partially because of their coaching and structure, but also because of the culture of bringing in young players from their own ranks. None of the bigger clubs have that culture, except maybe now tottenham and southampton are doing well with that culture.
Culture is half the battle
Barcelona also have their own "B" team, which is the perfect place to blood youngsters
£12 million for Leeds' 18-year-old central defender - gets you thinking on what we could demand for Joe. Regardless of a supposed 'price-tag' certain RD would never turn down a £5 million bid for Gomez.
£12 million for Leeds' 18-year-old central defender - gets you thinking on what we could demand for Joe. Regardless of a supposed 'price-tag' certain RD would never turn down a £5 million bid for Gomez.
It's agent season.
Leeds have slapped a £12m price-tag on Cook's head and a club source said: "Lewis knows he will have to leave Leeds to fulfil his ambitions.
"All the big clubs have been keeping close tabs on him and want him, so he will have his pick of the best and has a big decision to make.
He's one to keep for sure and at his age and stage of development we couldn't comprehend him moving elsewhere but it's not up to us and not fully up to him either. If a premiership or "bigger" club offers him & his 'people' significantly more money Joe will be under huge pressure to move. We must not be in any doubt that Roly D will sell any player for whom a decent offer is received. If the business stands to make any sort of net profit on the the transaction Roly D will take it and expect KM and the incumbent head coach to make the best of things.
The answer is in your question Roly knows a shade short of nuck fothing about football, English in particular, and sincerely believes it can be run on a breakeven basis. He holds great store by statistics and entrusts his employees to achieve the goals he sets, replacing them when they don't. He moves players around his network like stock around a warehouse and sells when an economic fee is offered. Case in point: Michael Morrison. Bob Peeters didn't favour MM who ended up out on loan. Under BP MM appeared to have no present let alone future so when brum offered to take MM permanently and MM was keen to keep playing, it looked like everybody was a winner - MM gets to play and charlton lose some 'deadwood' off the payroll. A very short term policy, the sense of which is now all too apparent. Bob Peeters gets the push and when Luzon needed alternatives to TBH and Bikey he only had teenagers so Johnson was recruited - didn't look like such a great state of affairs on Tuesday against Fulham did it? What we will find out is how stubborn Roly proves to be. His valuations of the playing staff are based on opportunity cost and replacement cost rather than agents' dreams, paper talk and supporter wish fulfilment. The result of which so far has been 2 uninspiring and largely unentertaining but ultimately successful avoidances of relegation. Future expenditure commitments made to training ground development may not leave much for squad enhancement for a club annually losing £7M+. Funds for that will come from player sales, however counter-intuitive that clearly is.
£12 million for Leeds' 18-year-old central defender - gets you thinking on what we could demand for Joe. Regardless of a supposed 'price-tag' certain RD would never turn down a £5 million bid for Gomez.
I can't believe the sort of rubbish that gets spouted (probably by an agent)
He fears he will never achieve his dream of playing in the Premier League and representing the Three Lions at senior level if he doesn't leave Leeds.
If he was a 32 year old that would make sense, but he's 18 with another 15 years in the game ahead of him...
The answer is in your question Roly knows a shade short of nuck fothing about football, English in particular, and sincerely believes it can be run on a breakeven basis. He holds great store by statistics and entrusts his employees to achieve the goals he sets, replacing them when they don't. He moves players around his network like stock around a warehouse and sells when an economic fee is offered. Case in point: Michael Morrison. Bob Peeters didn't favour MM who ended up out on loan. Under BP MM appeared to have no present let alone future so when brum offered to take MM permanently and MM was keen to keep playing, it looked like everybody was a winner - MM gets to play and charlton lose some 'deadwood' off the payroll. A very short term policy, the sense of which is now all too apparent. Bob Peeters gets the push and when Luzon needed alternatives to TBH and Bikey he only had teenagers so Johnson was recruited - didn't look like such a great state of affairs on Tuesday against Fulham did it? What we will find out is how stubborn Roly proves to be. His valuations of the playing staff are based on opportunity cost and replacement cost rather than agents' dreams, paper talk and supporter wish fulfilment. The result of which so far has been 2 uninspiring and largely unentertaining but ultimately successful avoidances of relegation. Future expenditure commitments made to training ground development may not leave much for squad enhancement for a club annually losing £7M+. Funds for that will come from player sales, however counter-intuitive that clearly is.
I'd say top half and the last few months has been better than that.
Assuming he stays for next season, we'll not get more than 5-6 mil for Gomez, probably less, but as long as we get a solid few mil then it's good business for the club. Who knows, if we invest in the right areas with the right manager, we could be in and around playoffs next year and Gomez may want to stay along with a couple of our other top players.
We'll always be a selling club, and you tend not to be able to demand too much unless you have people tied up to 4-5 year contracts.
£12 million for Leeds' 18-year-old central defender - gets you thinking on what we could demand for Joe. Regardless of a supposed 'price-tag' certain RD would never turn down a £5 million bid for Gomez.
How do we know what RD would or wouldn't turn down?
It also depends on what the player wants to do. I don't get the feeling Gomez wants to play u21 football while he can play regularly for us. He's probably already had chances to do that and instead stayed here where he'll play in the first team.
Take the money and reinvest all of it in the team for a promotion push. I'd love Joe to be part of a title winning season but unless we beef up the squad with quality then it'll be another mid to lower table finish next year.
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If you are good enough to play for the top 4 you can in turn naturally play for any club below in the English structure
If you are good enough for Charlton as a youngster it doesn't naturally mean you can play for any team above in the football structure
Hence more youth prospects will find it easier to progress to our first team than say an Arsenal first team
Hope this helps :-)
I suppose this is why I'm not an agent.
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Culture is half the battle
What Joe and Tyrone have in common, as well as being level headed kids is they look class even when they make mistakes in games.
Which Joe did on Tuesday and Mings did at the valley this season.
Both of them glide over the ground.
£12 million for Leeds' 18-year-old central defender - gets you thinking on what we could demand for Joe. Regardless of a supposed 'price-tag' certain RD would never turn down a £5 million bid for Gomez.
Leeds have slapped a £12m price-tag on Cook's head and a club source said: "Lewis knows he will have to leave Leeds to fulfil his ambitions.
"All the big clubs have been keeping close tabs on him and want him, so he will have his pick of the best and has a big decision to make.
For club source read player's agent.
Roly knows a shade short of nuck fothing about football, English in particular, and sincerely believes it can be run on a breakeven basis. He holds great store by statistics and entrusts his employees to achieve the goals he sets, replacing them when they don't. He moves players around his network like stock around a warehouse and sells when an economic fee is offered.
Case in point: Michael Morrison. Bob Peeters didn't favour MM who ended up out on loan. Under BP MM appeared to have no present let alone future so when brum offered to take MM permanently and MM was keen to keep playing, it looked like everybody was a winner - MM gets to play and charlton lose some 'deadwood' off the payroll. A very short term policy, the sense of which is now all too apparent.
Bob Peeters gets the push and when Luzon needed alternatives to TBH and Bikey he only had teenagers so Johnson was recruited - didn't look like such a great state of affairs on Tuesday against Fulham did it?
What we will find out is how stubborn Roly proves to be. His valuations of the playing staff are based on opportunity cost and replacement cost rather than agents' dreams, paper talk and supporter wish fulfilment.
The result of which so far has been 2 uninspiring and largely unentertaining but ultimately successful avoidances of relegation. Future expenditure commitments made to training ground development may not leave much for squad enhancement for a club annually losing £7M+. Funds for that will come from player sales, however counter-intuitive that clearly is.
Assuming he stays for next season, we'll not get more than 5-6 mil for Gomez, probably less, but as long as we get a solid few mil then it's good business for the club. Who knows, if we invest in the right areas with the right manager, we could be in and around playoffs next year and Gomez may want to stay along with a couple of our other top players.
We'll always be a selling club, and you tend not to be able to demand too much unless you have people tied up to 4-5 year contracts.
It also depends on what the player wants to do. I don't get the feeling Gomez wants to play u21 football while he can play regularly for us. He's probably already had chances to do that and instead stayed here where he'll play in the first team.
I'd love Joe to be part of a title winning season but unless we beef up the squad with quality then it'll be another mid to lower table finish next year.