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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    Pedro45 said:

    Ross said:

    Remember that we must have 9 homegrown players in the 18.

    Henderson / Solly / Fox / Gudmundsson / Ba / Cousins / Watt must all be considered as part of the Homegrown rule?
    Not Watt (Scottish does not count). Ba and Johan may or may not? Pope, Hendo, Solly, Fox, Harriot, Jackson, Cousins, Bikey, Lennon, and KAG will, as will Cebellos I think.
    How come Scottish doesnt count yet Spanish can? (i.e. Fabregas or Cebellos)

    I'd have thought Johann would seeing he was in the Chelsea / Fulham Youth Academies in 2006-2007, dont think Ba does count cos he signed for Sunderland too old
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    "A Home Grown player will be defined as one who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to the Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21)."
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301

    "A Home Grown player will be defined as one who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to the Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21)."

    So Gudmundsson is ruled out as he only spent two seasons in England whilst Watt is ruled out because despite being British he was based in Scotland.

    Crazy as Taylor Moore is English he's U18 but plays for Lens so unless he come over here before he's 21 he cant be part of the home grown quota
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,782
    edited July 2015
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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,623
    Please can we now sign a striker Too many defender/defensive midfielders for my liking. Currently Igor isn't fully fit so leaving us with Watt (not a main striker IMO), Makienok (untried in the league) and Aherne-Grant (young & again untried )

    You don't get out of the league by defending but by scoring goals - just ask B'mouth & Watford fans.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited July 2015
    I'd go with the following on Day 1 of the season:


    -----------Pope
    Solly----Bauer---Sarr----Fox
    Johan---Ba----Cousins--Bergdich
    -------Caballos (or Watt)
    ------------Makienok

    Bench
    GK - Whoever fits the homegrown rule
    Diarra
    Charles-Cook or Ahearne-Grant
    Jackson
    Kashi
    Watt or Caballos
    Vetokele

    I actually think Watt and Caballos could play very well together (both appear to be show ponies)
  • To_Be_Franck
    To_Be_Franck Posts: 1,095
    Ross said:

    Remember that we must have 9 homegrown players in the 18.

    Perhaps why our promising international keeper has gone out for game time whilst a washed up English 'home grown' is being linked for the bench
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,820

    "A Home Grown player will be defined as one who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to the Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21)."

    So Gudmundsson is ruled out as he only spent two seasons in England whilst Watt is ruled out because despite being British he was based in Scotland.

    Crazy as Taylor Moore is English he's U18 but plays for Lens so unless he come over here before he's 21 he cant be part of the home grown quota
    In football, we have to differentiate between British, and English (or Welsh). Cebellos spent three years at Spurs, so will count I think, but Ba and Johan only spent two years below 21 at English clubs. In your scenario, Taylor Moore will not qualify as homegrown currently.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,167

    QPR, Bristol City and Preston among clubs chasing former West Ham keeper Jussi Jaaskelainen.

    Think he'd be a much better choice than Taylor.

    But is he willing to sit on the bench and only play if needed due to injuries? It's a very specific type of keeper we're looking for
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,046

    QPR, Bristol City and Preston among clubs chasing former West Ham keeper Jussi Jaaskelainen.

    Think he'd be a much better choice than Taylor.

    But is he willing to sit on the bench and only play if needed due to injuries? It's a very specific type of keeper we're looking for
    Surely it's what Taylor has done for pretty much his full career!
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  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,484

    Talal said:

    Good stuff, wonder if he'll be at Sarrfend

    Doubt it. Kashi, Ceballos and Bergdych all signed a couple of days before friendlies and the games were deemed to have come too soon for them. Suspect we will see an XI tonight and a strong side Friday.

    True Clem, it was more a lame excuse to fit Sarr into Southend :smile:
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    This is the rule as currently posted on the FL web site. (It may not be current but it says six?)

    33.7 Home Grown Players. Each Club shall, with effect from the commencement of Season 2011/2012 be required to nominate a minimum of six Home Grown Players on their Team Sheet of Players for all League Competition Matches (including Play Off Matches).

    33.8 ‘Home Grown Player’ shall mean a Player who irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with:-

    33.8.1 his current Club; and/or

    33.8.2 a Club and/or any other football club affiliated to the Football Association or the Football Association of Wales, for a period, continuous or not of three Seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the Season during which he turns 21). For the purposes of this definition of Home Grown Player only, a Season will be deemed to commence on the date on which the first Transfer Window in that Season closes and expire on the date of the final League Match of the Season.

    33.9 For the purposes of Regulation 33.8.2, but not otherwise, a Player who was at all times registered with a Club (or club) affiliated to the Football Association of Wales shall be treated as having been registered with a Club (or club) affiliated to The Football Association, and vice versa.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    edited July 2015
    Think our best team would be this:
    Henderson
    Solly, Bauer, Sarr, Fox/Bergdich
    Kashi
    Cousins, Ba
    JBG
    Watt, Igor

    Subs:
    Pope
    Fox/Bergdich
    Diarra
    Jacko
    Ceballos
    Ahearne-Grant
    Makienok

    diamond midfield.
    Happy to sign Taylor, then need another defender (preferably CB who can play RB), winger and striker.
    offload Bikey and Harriott
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    Either way the Squad definitely looks like it has more quality and depth this year
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  • SpicedAddick
    SpicedAddick Posts: 737
    colin1961 said:

    Next two Steven Kelly and James Henry possible ????

    I would like that a lot.

    That would be a really competitive team.
  • Feeling quite positive about things at the moment just hoping they can gel straight away with some difficult opening fixtures. When we had such big turnovers in players before under Lenny in 1986 and SCP in 2011 both of those seasons were good!
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    colin1961 said:

    Next two Steven Kelly and James Henry possible ????

    Would be 2 good additions to our squad.

    Kelly on a free to cover for solly.
    Henry to give us more options on the wing.

    Then we just hold our breath that Pope can emulate Henderson,
    And Igor can be 100% and find his Mojo like at the beginning of last season

  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102

    Think our best team would be this:
    Henderson
    Solly, Bauer, Sarr, Fox/Bergdich
    Kashi
    Cousins, Ba
    JBG
    Watt, Igor

    Subs:
    Pope
    Fox/Bergdich
    Diarra
    Jacko
    Ceballos
    Ahearne-Grant
    Makienok

    diamond midfield.
    Happy to sign Taylor, then need another defender (preferably CB who can play RB), winger and striker.
    offload Harriott, Bikey and Harriott

    I know Harriott isn't exactly flavour of the month but releasing him, and then signing him just so we can release him again is out of order.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989

    QPR, Bristol City and Preston among clubs chasing former West Ham keeper Jussi Jaaskelainen.

    Think he'd be a much better choice than Taylor.

    But is he willing to sit on the bench and only play if needed due to injuries? It's a very specific type of keeper we're looking for
    Yes. One that doesn't like playing :smile:
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Go on Roland, push the boat out one more time and get us Lenglet.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    So our defensive options now look like:

    Chris Solly (effin quality)
    Patrick Bauer (50 odd appearances in the Portuguese top flight and by all accounts looks very good)
    Naby Sarr (played 4 times in the Champions League last year, scoring in one game. 18 appearances in all for a very big club)
    Zakarya Bergdich (plied his trade in Seria A and La Liga last year)

    Alou Diarra (played in a WC final)
    Andre Bikey (experienced championship centre back)
    Morgan Fox (improved to the extent that Wiggins being let go isnt being seen as a disaster).







    Oh for the days of Miguel Llera, Simon Francis (the charlton version), Martin Cranie et al.

    None of them a patch on Daniel Seabourne.
  • luke1
    luke1 Posts: 203
    Your leaving out JBG?
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198

    Go on Roland, push the boat out one more time and get us Lenglet.

    Here he is doing just that in the West Stand Car Park.

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  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,254
    I would imagine we will step up efforts to sell Harriott and Bikey now.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301

    Go on Roland, push the boat out one more time and get us Lenglet.

    Sssshhhh... Roland is like that kid who when you went to play round his house would slowly get out all his toys slowly and one by one.

    If you pushed him to get the best and shiniest toy out quicker he'd put them all away and would go off in a huff!!
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    Let's just hope he proves the Sporting fans wrong, don't think I've seen one have a positive thing to see about him. But then again Leicester didn't Kermorgant and us Francis.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    They are a bloody champions league side! We have slightly different standards and over hype the English second flight far too much. Benfica, Porto and Chelsea are head and shoulders above even the best in our division.
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    We are going to be a real threat from set pieces this year
  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,632
    CH4RLTON said:

    We are going to be a real threat from set pieces this year

    JBG cant get his crosses off the floor so doubt it.
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