Bad Performances Happen - Get Over It
But over a course of a season you play lots of games and there will be games you play well and there will be games you don't play so well. When you support any football team anywhere in the world you have to accept that bad performances will happen. Whether we like it or not we have to accept it. It is part and parcel of football I'm afraid. I don't really like it but I accept it will happen. We can only hope it doesn't happen too often. But if you can't accept that bad performances happen then all I can say is... DON'T follow a football team - simples! Bad Performances Happen - Get Over It!
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Yesterday was a bad performance, but it needn't have been, As the season wore on the team had improved. We were capable of giving Bournemouth a game (and possibly still have lost) but we didn't. We rolled over and handed it to them. That's what hurt.
Fortunately, this morning I am completely 'over it' because the defeat had no meaningful affect on our season.
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I really hope they would have played with a bit more passion if we had needed a result.Daggs said:Yesterday was a bad performance, but it needn't have been, As the season wore on the team had improved. We were capable of giving Bournemouth a game (and possibly still have lost) but we didn't. We rolled over and handed it to them. That's what hurt.
Fortunately, this morning I am completely 'over it' because the defeat had no meaningful affect on our season.
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Yes, but what about the chips?2
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I would have liked them to play with a bit of passion for US the people who pay their wages whether we needed a result or not.Arsenetatters said:
I really hope they would have played with a bit more passion if we had needed a result.Daggs said:Yesterday was a bad performance, but it needn't have been, As the season wore on the team had improved. We were capable of giving Bournemouth a game (and possibly still have lost) but we didn't. We rolled over and handed it to them. That's what hurt.
Fortunately, this morning I am completely 'over it' because the defeat had no meaningful affect on our season.2 -
I can only assume that the 62 points plus bonus wasn't worth having.3
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I'd forgotten about that! Makes their lack of passion even more strangecafcfan said:I can only assume that the 62 points plus bonus wasn't worth having.
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There was a lack of desire from the off. Players weren't being closed down and some players like Buyens looked as if they couldn't be bothered. We gifted Bournemouth two goals from woeful defending. Yes Bournemouth were much better than us but our attitude made it much easier for them. We came out for the second half and played with more tempo but we didn't threaten their goal much. Bournemouth then killed us off. They looked if they had another gear. The way they play was a delight, they also have players like Arter and Francis who were considered not good enough for us.0
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I completely disagree that we "have to accept that bad performances will happen".
After any game the players performance will be dissected, that isn't "moaning" or not being able to "get over it" - that's what a supporter of a football club does because he wants to understand how the performance can be better next time around.
If we can't be disappointed when we lose then we shouldn't celebrate when we win.3 -
I can forgive a one-off poor performance, if I sense that they are trying. A string of effortless draws and defeats is not something I'll willingly accept or gloss over. The performances over the last month would be disappointing if they were one-offs, that they have come one after the other is absolutely shameful. There seems to be an attitude in the team that they have finished their job because they've made it to safety. That because they can't make they play-offs there is nothing worth playing for. I see things very differently, I want us to fight for every point whether we are top, bottom or slap bang in the middle. I wan't us to chase every ball, cover every blade of grass and to give up on nothing. They are professionals, they should want to do that for pride. They should also want to do that for the integrity of the competition they play in (any Watford fan watching that yesterday would quite rightly seethe over our lack of effort). Most of all though, that should want to do that because they love the game. And I really do question, do they?
It seems as if they've decided they don't have to do any more. I look forward to the day that I get a letter from the club saying, 'Dear Mr Stig, the players of Charlton Athletic have decided they've done enough this season, so for the remainder of the season they'll only be putting in 30% of the normal effort. As a result, the club agrees to refund you for the 70% of your ticket costs for these matches and will also cover and travelling or other expenses that you incur'. When I get that letter, that's when I'll accept the sort of half-hearted, bungling, pretend football we've been dished up lately. Not before.18 -
What I think some fans need to do is see it from the players point of view not just their own selfish blinkered point of view. Yes the players earn good money. But that is nothing new. Some fans need to try being pro footballers and see what it's like being a professional footballer and see how they like being told they are not trying. Many fans probably would not be able to run 50 metres without getting tired. If they could spend a week in the company of the players they would realise the players care and not mercenaries.6
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What a ridiculous argument. What have fans not being able to run 50 metres without getting tired got to do with it. Why do we need to try being a pro footballer? I played Football at a reasonable level. I have watched Academy Football from U16s to U21 level for 25 years. I have watched first team Football for over 50 years, I know when some players are not giving 100 per cent. Yes Bournemouth are a good side but we made it much easier for them than it should have been.AddickFC81 said:What I think some fans need to do is see it from the players point of view not just their own selfish blinkered point of view. Yes the players earn good money. But that is nothing new. Some fans need to try being pro footballers and see what it's like being a professional footballer and see how they like being told they are not trying. Many fans probably would not be able to run 50 metres without getting tired. If they could spend a week in the company of the players they would realise the players care and not mercenaries.
By the way, footballers have a privileged life where most things are done for them.
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I will try being a professional footballer for the summer if one of our players wants to try commuting to London on a shit train service everyday to work in a grey office in town. Whilst we are at it we can swap salaries too!AddickFC81 said:What I think some fans need to do is see it from the players point of view not just their own selfish blinkered point of view. Yes the players earn good money. But that is nothing new. Some fans need to try being pro footballers and see what it's like being a professional footballer and see how they like being told they are not trying. Many fans probably would not be able to run 50 metres without getting tired. If they could spend a week in the company of the players they would realise the players care and not mercenaries.
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So the amount of effort the players are required to put in should be in relation the the average fitness level of the crowd? That is one of the strangest arguments I've ever seen put forward on here.AddickFC81 said:What I think some fans need to do is see it from the players point of view not just their own selfish blinkered point of view. Yes the players earn good money. But that is nothing new. Some fans need to try being pro footballers and see what it's like being a professional footballer and see how they like being told they are not trying. Many fans probably would not be able to run 50 metres without getting tired. If they could spend a week in the company of the players they would realise the players care and not mercenaries.
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Look don't get me wrong I don't like bad performances either but we have to hope there are not too many. There have been bad performances in the past and it pains me to say that sadly there will be more in the furture.0
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We can accept mistakes and bad games. But being at fault for a goal by losing concentration and giving the ball away under no pressure then making a pathetic half hearted attempt at challenge and then just simply shrugging your shoulders is not having a bad game, it's having a bad attitude.2
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If you cannot accept how highly players at this level are go and support a sunday team on Hackney Marshes.-3
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Your opening post made a reasonable argument. Even though i didn't agree with it.
This post makes no sense and loses your argument.1 -
What? North of the river? What's wrong with Plumstead Common?AddickFC81 said:If you cannot accept how highly players at this level are go and fucking support a sunday team on Hackney Marshes.
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No football pitches on Plumstead Common Seth, they're at Winn's Common just down the roadseth plum said:
What? North of the river? What's wrong with Plumstead Common?AddickFC81 said:If you cannot accept how highly players at this level are go and fucking support a sunday team on Hackney Marshes.
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Calm down mate no need for the offensive language, kids read this site, get a grip.AddickFC81 said:If you cannot accept how highly players at this level are go and ******** support a sunday team on Hackney Marshes.
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I used to play on Blackheath occasionally - long time ago now.RedChaser said:
No football pitches on Plumstead Common Seth, they're at Winn's Common just down the roadseth plum said:
What? North of the river? What's wrong with Plumstead Common?AddickFC81 said:If you cannot accept how highly players at this level are go and fucking support a sunday team on Hackney Marshes.
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It's always going to be difficult for passionate football fans who pay good, hard-earned money to watch their heroes, to accept that for some pro footballers it is just a job and like Joe Public they have good days when they're up for it and others when they're not.AddickFC81 said:What I think some fans need to do is see it from the players point of view not just their own selfish blinkered point of view. Yes the players earn good money. But that is nothing new. Some fans need to try being pro footballers and see what it's like being a professional footballer and see how they like being told they are not trying. Many fans probably would not be able to run 50 metres without getting tired. If they could spend a week in the company of the players they would realise the players care and not mercenaries.
For me, I would expect pro players to be professional and pull the stops out for every game. I never have understood why some players don't put in the effort when they have replacements waiting in the wings for them to mess up - but most footballers are not that bright and are arrogant, so it's no real surprise when you think about it.
Good luck to the lads if they can drive a Porsche, wear a Rolex and Gucci shoes but the fans expect them to justify those luxuries on the pitch every game.
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Ooooooo Jelous!purdis said:
It's always going to be difficult for passionate football fans who pay good, hard-earned money to watch their heroes, to accept that for some pro footballers it is just a job and like Joe Public they have good days when they're up for it and others when they're not.AddickFC81 said:What I think some fans need to do is see it from the players point of view not just their own selfish blinkered point of view. Yes the players earn good money. But that is nothing new. Some fans need to try being pro footballers and see what it's like being a professional footballer and see how they like being told they are not trying. Many fans probably would not be able to run 50 metres without getting tired. If they could spend a week in the company of the players they would realise the players care and not mercenaries.
For me, I would expect pro players to be professional and pull the stops out for every game. I never have understood why some players don't put in the effort when they have replacements waiting in the wings for them to mess up - but most footballers are not that bright and are arrogant, so it's no real surprise when you think about it.
Good luck to the lads if they can drive a Porsche, wear a Rolex and Gucci shoes but the fans expect them to justify those luxuries on the pitch every game.1 -
Yeh, well jel, init bruvAddickFC81 said:
Ooooooo Jelous!purdis said:
It's always going to be difficult for passionate football fans who pay good, hard-earned money to watch their heroes, to accept that for some pro footballers it is just a job and like Joe Public they have good days when they're up for it and others when they're not.AddickFC81 said:What I think some fans need to do is see it from the players point of view not just their own selfish blinkered point of view. Yes the players earn good money. But that is nothing new. Some fans need to try being pro footballers and see what it's like being a professional footballer and see how they like being told they are not trying. Many fans probably would not be able to run 50 metres without getting tired. If they could spend a week in the company of the players they would realise the players care and not mercenaries.
For me, I would expect pro players to be professional and pull the stops out for every game. I never have understood why some players don't put in the effort when they have replacements waiting in the wings for them to mess up - but most footballers are not that bright and are arrogant, so it's no real surprise when you think about it.
Good luck to the lads if they can drive a Porsche, wear a Rolex and Gucci shoes but the fans expect them to justify those luxuries on the pitch every game.
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Good to see you posting again OffyOff_it said:
Yeh, well jel, init bruvAddickFC81 said:
Ooooooo Jelous!purdis said:
It's always going to be difficult for passionate football fans who pay good, hard-earned money to watch their heroes, to accept that for some pro footballers it is just a job and like Joe Public they have good days when they're up for it and others when they're not.AddickFC81 said:What I think some fans need to do is see it from the players point of view not just their own selfish blinkered point of view. Yes the players earn good money. But that is nothing new. Some fans need to try being pro footballers and see what it's like being a professional footballer and see how they like being told they are not trying. Many fans probably would not be able to run 50 metres without getting tired. If they could spend a week in the company of the players they would realise the players care and not mercenaries.
For me, I would expect pro players to be professional and pull the stops out for every game. I never have understood why some players don't put in the effort when they have replacements waiting in the wings for them to mess up - but most footballers are not that bright and are arrogant, so it's no real surprise when you think about it.
Good luck to the lads if they can drive a Porsche, wear a Rolex and Gucci shoes but the fans expect them to justify those luxuries on the pitch every game. 0 -
Not in the slightest, Addick FC & Offy - just want value for money!AddickFC81 said:
Ooooooo Jelous!purdis said:
It's always going to be difficult for passionate football fans who pay good, hard-earned money to watch their heroes, to accept that for some pro footballers it is just a job and like Joe Public they have good days when they're up for it and others when they're not.AddickFC81 said:What I think some fans need to do is see it from the players point of view not just their own selfish blinkered point of view. Yes the players earn good money. But that is nothing new. Some fans need to try being pro footballers and see what it's like being a professional footballer and see how they like being told they are not trying. Many fans probably would not be able to run 50 metres without getting tired. If they could spend a week in the company of the players they would realise the players care and not mercenaries.
For me, I would expect pro players to be professional and pull the stops out for every game. I never have understood why some players don't put in the effort when they have replacements waiting in the wings for them to mess up - but most footballers are not that bright and are arrogant, so it's no real surprise when you think about it.
Good luck to the lads if they can drive a Porsche, wear a Rolex and Gucci shoes but the fans expect them to justify those luxuries on the pitch every game.
Hope they all get to drive Bugatti Veyrons - that will mean we're Champions League - init.2 -
Are you saying that anyone who was unhappy about our performance should stop supporting Charlton?0
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No not at all. I'm saying we are not going to play well every game. Some games you play bad but that does not mean don't support a team. I mean if you can't accept that performances will happen don't come. That does not mean be happy with a bad performance. It means have a look at why it wrong and what can be done different.andynelson said:Are you saying that anyone who was unhappy about our performance should stop supporting Charlton?
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One of the reasons why Jordan Cousins got the POTY trophy. Great attitude and consistent effort over the season. Not giving their all every game is not something that you can ever aim at JC. It didn't help the level of performance that he was not playing. The Charlton midfield missed his energy.3
