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Proud Valiants - Charlton's first LGBT Group

cafctom
cafctom Posts: 11,365
in General Charlton
Didn't see a thread on this already.

cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-fans-lbgt-group-proud-valiants-2461546.aspx#g53gfM6xC1eDToe1.99
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  • LouisMend
    LouisMend Posts: 5,446
    It's always fun looking at the responses to tweets like the one the club have sent out on these subjects.



  • LouisMend
    LouisMend Posts: 5,446
    Fire repsonse from (OG)

  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,824
    wouldn't say 'fun'.

    good luck to them, and respect for whoever the lead person is prepared to put the work in to organise a group.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    The Argument Alert thread is going to take a thrashing over the next 48 hours.
  • LouisMend
    LouisMend Posts: 5,446
    AFKABartram said:

    wouldn't say 'fun'.

    good luck to them, and respect for whoever the lead person is prepared to put the work in to organise a group.

    Fun probably the wrong word agreed. I think I'm no longer shocked that there's still people who think like he does and the inevitable responses no longer shock me, but rather make me laugh that some people are still stuck in the 1950s.
  • Jodaius
    Jodaius Posts: 562
    edited May 2015
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    "I'm not prejudice but..."

    "Why do they have to shove it down our throats?"

    "My mate is gay and he says that it's OK to....."

    Since I see "Can I have a straight, married, normal (sic) group" has already been taken in this game of gay related phrases bingo
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    wwaddickson said:

    It's always fun looking at the responses to tweets like the one the club have sent out on these subjects.



    Andrew needs to learn a thing or two about his nation's proud history
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    Hasn't LGBT ignored another letter or 2 - I got told off on here for not knowing what it stood for a while back but don't remember what it was.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Beware of Greeks bearing rifts.
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    Leuth said:

    wwaddickson said:

    It's always fun looking at the responses to tweets like the one the club have sent out on these subjects.



    Andrew needs to learn a thing or two about his nation's proud history
    I was going to mention "Greek style" but I didn't want to get anyone who looked it up on their work PC into trouble : - )
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    Jodaius said:

    wwaddickson said:

    It's always fun looking at the responses to tweets like the one the club have sent out on these subjects.



    People like that need to support Millwall. We don't need them.
    Quite prejudice and assumptious
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    PL54 said:

    Hasn't LGBT ignored another letter or 2 - I got told off on here for not knowing what it stood for a while back but don't remember what it was.

    Let's cut out all the intervening stages and just agree that you're into sex, PL
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    Leuth said:

    PL54 said:

    Hasn't LGBT ignored another letter or 2 - I got told off on here for not knowing what it stood for a while back but don't remember what it was.

    Let's cut out all the intervening stages and just agree that you're into sex, PL
    Aren't most people?
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    Addickted said:

    Beware of Greeks bearing rifts.

    I thought the Romans were fairly forthright - was Caligula Roman or Greek ?
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    PL54 said:

    Hasn't LGBT ignored another letter or 2 - I got told off on here for not knowing what it stood for a while back but don't remember what it was.

    Some people are trying to shoehorn I and Q into the acronym but others think that the T works as a catch-all term for people who are T, I, Q or in between and the acronym is probably getting a bit long anyway, since everyone seems to recognise and instantly know what LGBT means.
  • Brendan_O_Connell
    Brendan_O_Connell Posts: 8,938
    This chap on Twitter is rather angry isn't he?

    He's craving attention (and is unfortunately getting it). Probably best ignored.
  • NomadicAddick
    NomadicAddick Posts: 2,114
    PL54 said:

    Addickted said:

    Beware of Greeks bearing rifts.

    I thought the Romans were fairly forthright - was Caligula Roman or Greek ?
    he was roman.
  • Addicted
    Addicted Posts: 2,804
    Looking at some of Andrew's other tweets I think he's a few chips short of a portion tbh.
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  • brogib
    brogib Posts: 2,128
    Addicted said:

    Looking at some of Andrew's other tweets I think he's a few chips short of a portion tbh.

    Sounds familiar
  • Bryan_Kynsie
    Bryan_Kynsie Posts: 2,179
    If I was "L" I am not sure I would want it to be assumed that I automatically had things in common with people who are "G", "B" or "T" and so on, such that I needed a special group of (what exactly?) to be bracketed into. What we all have in common is that we support the Addicks isn't it? Does a G Addicks fan have more in common with a T Addicks fan than he does with me for example?
  • LouisMend
    LouisMend Posts: 5,446
    Bryan_Kynsie said:

    If I was "L" I am not sure I would want it to be assumed that I automatically had things in common with people who are "G", "B" or "T" and so on, such that I needed a special group of (what exactly?) to be bracketed into. What we all have in common is that we support the Addicks isn't it? Does a G Addicks fan have more in common with a T Addicks fan than he does with me for example?

    L's aren't being forced to join the group. Nobody is.
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    edited May 2015
    No need for it in my opinion. Why make a group seperating yourselves from straight supporters? And then moan about wanting equality
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Good move I would say because abuse and prejudice hasn't gone away but morphed into more subtle ways of hate.
    If we ever got to the day when we had regular would yas (which I think are in poor taste, but I mention this for balance) on Charlton Life where females felt moved to say they 'would' with other females brought to our attention, and males could also say how much they 'would' with the males brought to our attention, then I would probably think we have moved a bit forward.
  • brogib
    brogib Posts: 2,128
    Greenie Junior said:

    No need for it in my opinion. Why make a group seperating yourselves from straight supporters? And then moan about wanting equality

    Good question, let's ask @cafcdave123 why he started the group
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    Bryan_Kynsie said:

    If I was "L" I am not sure I would want it to be assumed that I automatically had things in common with people who are "G", "B" or "T" and so on, such that I needed a special group of (what exactly?) to be bracketed into. What we all have in common is that we support the Addicks isn't it? Does a G Addicks fan have more in common with a T Addicks fan than he does with me for example?

    I used to think that this opinion had some merit but the fact is that all people who identify as being one of LGBT have a mutual struggle as our Greek companion on Twitter helpfully demonstrates. To these knuckle-draggers, it doesn't matter if you're L, B, G and/or T, you're still a target for singling out and abusing. The lack of openly gay footballers shows that there is still a lot of work to do and solidarity is a powerful thing.

    You don't have to be LGBT to support LGBT groups. Setting up groups like this helps the cause and the wide cast of its net ensures it receives support and members from all corners.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    Greenie Junior said:

    No need for it in my opinion. Why make a group seperating yourselves from straight supporters? And then moan about wanting equality

    But it's not separating them from straight supporters, is it.

    Straight supporters can join if they want. Straight and LGBT can still mix and do whatever they want together. If there is no interest or need the group will fade away.

    Having a disabled supporters group (CASDA) doesn't seperate supporters with disabilities from other supporters.
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    Well it does..
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    Isn't matt who posts on here openly gay? Be interesting to see if he feels like there is a need for a 'group' or whether the Valley is already a welcoming experience regardless of your sexuality.

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