The LHC is up and running again

cabbles

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/large-hadron-collider-starts-doing-science-again/?WT.mc_id=SA_SPC_20150604

I for one am excited. We could really find out some interesting things off the back of the latest experiments. Personally I think we'll probably get more questions than answers.

Might be a chance of finding new particles even more rare than those that they are searching for

Bryan_Kynsie

If you are interested in rare particles I'm willing to donate my old kacks as long as someone pays the postage.

soapy_jones

You'll all be regretting it when they create a singularity and propel us into a mini black hole. I think I'd rather have a Millwall season ticket!

smudge7946

What sort of thing is it trying to find out?

Dippenhall

smudge7946 said:

What sort of thing is it trying to find out?

Trying to solve a mystery. if you weighed a bag and found it weighed 10lbs but when you emptied the contents and weighed them they only weighed 2 lbs you would be pretty convinced there was something left in the bag you could't see. One of the objectives as I understand it is trying to find the bits of the Universe that must be lurking somewhere but we can't see or detect them yet.

cabbles

smudge7946 said:

What sort of thing is it trying to find out?

http://www.vox.com/2015/3/23/8267073/lhc-cern

I would elaborate more but I've just had a 4 pint lunch

bobmunro

Dippenhall said:

smudge7946 said:

What sort of thing is it trying to find out?

Trying to solve a mystery. if you weighed a bag and found it weighed 10lbs but when you emptied the contents and weighed them they only weighed 2 lbs you would be pretty convinced there was something left in the bag you could't see. One of the objectives as I understand it is trying to find the bits of the Universe that must be lurking somewhere but we can't see or detect them yet.

There is a belief that 'dark matter' exists but nobody has ever detected it, seen it, had it's nature fully explained - yet scientists still believe it must exist.

A bit like belief in God really ;-)

cabbles

bobmunro said:

Dippenhall said:

smudge7946 said:

What sort of thing is it trying to find out?

Trying to solve a mystery. if you weighed a bag and found it weighed 10lbs but when you emptied the contents and weighed them they only weighed 2 lbs you would be pretty convinced there was something left in the bag you could't see. One of the objectives as I understand it is trying to find the bits of the Universe that must be lurking somewhere but we can't see or detect them yet.

There is a belief that 'dark matter' exists but nobody has ever detected it, seen it, had it's nature fully explained - yet scientists still believe it must exist.

A bit like belief in God really ;-)

What I do find interesting though is vacuum tight air chambers where neutrinos flash in and out of existence (a very light particle). I'm pretty confident dark matter, and following dark energy is the key to understanding the unification and what goes on at a quantum level. Personally I'm a great believer in the multiverse theory and it goes a great way into explaining discrepancies at the quantum level

Bryan_Kynsie

Cabbles, for most of us you will need to explain
~neutrinos
~dark matter
~the unification
~quantum level
~the multiverse theory

As a minimum, before we will have a clue what your post is driving at.

I'm not suggesting it might not be interesting, fascinating even, but physics is not widely understood. The reason for that for my generation is how badly it was taught in school.

JiMMy 85

cabbles said:

Personally I think we'll probably get more questions than answers.

Made me think of this...

http://youtu.be/MO0r930Sn_8

IA

I hope it doesn't destroy the universe again. I still miss the old one.

SEFREE

whats the FAs policy on hiring 8ft 4th dimensional upright lizards as strikers?

sillav nitram

is it the ride at alton towers, that was in the news the other day?

DaveMehmet

Dippenhall said:

smudge7946 said:

What sort of thing is it trying to find out?

One of the objectives as I understand it is trying to find the bits of the Universe that must be lurking somewhere but we can't see or detect them yet.

Have they checked down the back of the sofa?

AddicksAddict

soapy_jones said:

You'll all be regretting it when they create a singularity and propel us into a mini black hole. I think I'd rather have a Millwall season ticket!

If we get pulled in to a black hole, I don't think we'll be in a position to regret anything.

AddicksAddict

I was talking to someone the other day who wondered why they were only colliding large hadrons!!

nth_london_addick

i have absolutely no idea wtf it is all about and why anyone would want to do this in the first place

SEFREE

when the BBC tack on the end of their reports on BBC1 'and it may even find other dimensions'
you can guarantee this is the real goal.

who you gonna call?

SuedeAdidas

soapy_jones said:

You'll all be regretting it when they create a singularity and propel us into a mini black hole. I think I'd rather have a Millwall season ticket!

We'd better start calling the association of black hole lawyers just in case.

foxjam

Bryan_Kynsie said:

Cabbles, for most of us you will need to explain
~neutrinos
~dark matter
~the unification
~quantum level
~the multiverse theory

As a minimum, before we will have a clue what your post is driving at.

I'm not suggesting it might not be interesting, fascinating even, but physics is not widely understood. The reason for that for my generation is how badly it was taught in school.

I'll have a go.
Neutrinos are tiny, very light particles that are produced when particles like electrons are involved. They don't interact very much and are very hard to detect.

Dark matter is matter that, based on how we've observed galaxies to form, should exist. So there should be some matter there but we haven't seen it.

Unification- forgetting about gravity for now. There are 3 fundamental forces: electromagnetism, weak and strong. At high energies, we have seen a unified `electroweak force` but we predict that there should be an energy where all 3 forces unify and `become the same`.

The quantum level is when things are very small, we cannot tell their exact position and speed at the same time. These things are `uncertain` and we describe positions as wavefunctions. Particles are basically little waves rather than little round balls.

Multiverse theory essentially says that there may be many (possibly infinitely many) alternate universes that contain everything that has or will exist.

Hope that helps.

cabbles

foxjam said:

Bryan_Kynsie said:

Cabbles, for most of us you will need to explain
~neutrinos
~dark matter
~the unification
~quantum level
~the multiverse theory

As a minimum, before we will have a clue what your post is driving at.

I'm not suggesting it might not be interesting, fascinating even, but physics is not widely understood. The reason for that for my generation is how badly it was taught in school.

I'll have a go.
Neutrinos are tiny, very light particles that are produced when particles like electrons are involved. They don't interact very much and are very hard to detect.

Dark matter is matter that, based on how we've observed galaxies to form, should exist. So there should be some matter there but we haven't seen it.

Unification- forgetting about gravity for now. There are 3 fundamental forces: electromagnetism, weak and strong. At high energies, we have seen a unified `electroweak force` but we predict that there should be an energy where all 3 forces unify and `become the same`.

The quantum level is when things are very small, we cannot tell their exact position and speed at the same time. These things are `uncertain` and we describe positions as wavefunctions. Particles are basically little waves rather than little round balls.

Multiverse theory essentially says that there may be many (possibly infinitely many) alternate universes that contain everything that has or will exist.

Hope that helps.

Saved me a response, cheers foxjam