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Joe Gomez rumours (ed. Signed for Liverpool)

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  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    edited July 2015
    jams said:

    @JamesPearceEcho: Rodgers says there's no chance Joe Gomez will go out on loan this season. 'He will stay here and compete for a place.' #LFC

    Absolutely chuffed as hell for young Joe with that news!

    Sad that he's no longer with us, but it would be gutting to see him doing a Poyet and spending the next season languishing away gathering dust; it looks like young Joe may just have a shot at getting bedded in to the first team set up, which at barely18 is incredible.

    Taken from the liverpool forum linked above:
    BR on Gomez:
    “He’s staying. I’ve seen enough in this period... Watching him and his personality – he’ll be staying, he’ll get games"
    “He’s only 18, but seeing him play at left-back for the first time, he looked an outstanding athlete, a really good footballer"
    "I’ve seen him at centre-half and at right-back, but I wanted to see him at left-back – and I thought he was outstanding.”
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    Much as i would LOVE to get Joe back for another season at the Valley, I would be absolutely thrilled to see him become a regular for Liverpool and really accelerate his prem and international career. Much, much rather that than see him on loan to a Championship rival - that would really hurt.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    edited July 2015
    June 22 -

    A pre-season with the squad, Liverpool will realise just how good this kid is and he won't be going anywhere.

    July 17 -
    jakecafc said:
    *sits back and lights cigar*
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,056

    June 22 -

    A pre-season with the squad, Liverpool will realise just how good this kid is and he won't be going anywhere.

    July 17 -
    jakecafc said:
    *sits back and lights cigar*
    To be fair Gazza...we ALL thought the same anyway!!! Collective cigar called for!! :wink:
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,661
    We gave him away.
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    LenGlover said:

    We gave him away.

    The Liverpool fans seem to have realised that too; "However, if he develops and if his obvious potential is fulfilled, we might have to go back and give Charlton some more money or we'll get accused of robbery." - taken from their forum.

    I must say, I hope some of them are enjoying their humble pie now. Some of the comments when LFC signed Gomez were bewildering - too young, no pedigree, bargain basement... etc etc.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,438
    Sounds like you'll see him in the England U21s this season...

    Wonder what odds you'd be given on Gomez making the Euro 2016 team or getting an England call up at any stage in 2016... Worth a few bob I reckon
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,862
    LenGlover said:

    We gave him away.

    He walked away.
  • ChiAddick
    ChiAddick Posts: 1,781
    Mixture of happiness and sadness when I read about Joe.

    What frustrates me is the lack of appreciation our academy will get from other football 'experts' In a few years when Joe is a first team regular. We won't get a mention.

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  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    ChiAddick said:

    Mixture of happiness and sadness when I read about Joe.

    What frustrates me is the lack of appreciation our academy will get from other football 'experts' In a few years when Joe is a first team regular. We won't get a mention.

    Joe was still raw when Liverpool plucked him from obscurity……………
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    He was as much the real deal and the finished article when we sold him. The only thing Liverpool can add is experience, but I don't believe they will coach him into being a better player.
    We have been absolutely robbed, and for £3.5 million it is the transfer bargain of all time.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    I still don't believe its for 3.5m
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    edited July 2015
    seth plum said:

    He was as much the real deal and the finished article when we sold him. The only thing Liverpool can add is experience, but I don't believe they will coach him into being a better player.

    Seth, do you actually believe what you post ?

    Liverpool can't coach Gomez, into being a better player ?

    So if Gomez stays there for 10 years, there is absolutely nothing, Liverpool will do to improve him ?

    Laughable.

    Why do any clubs employ coaches then ? If they can't improve a player, once they get to say 19 years of age ?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    LenGlover said:

    We gave him away.

    How much did we get for him?

    Think it's more about him than us in that he's that good that he was never going to be here long, no matter how "ambitious" our owner is.
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    £7m we will get.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,282
    Well I got 12mill with add-ons to take it to 16 from Citeh on FM so I'm pretty chuffed personally
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,063
    Wish someone ITK would fess up to the exact details of the deal as whatever Liverpool paid for Joe it wasnt enough
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,661
    edited July 2015
    Scoham said:

    LenGlover said:

    We gave him away.

    How much did we get for him?

    Think it's more about him than us in that he's that good that he was never going to be here long, no matter how "ambitious" our owner is.
    According to the press £3.5 million or, to put it another way, 14 Joe Gomezs equal 1 Raheem Sterling.
  • It's only one game, but I really hope Joe does well at Liverpool, he's got a lot to learn, and how many times have we seen youngsters fall away, I hope he settles well in the area, and reaches his full potential.

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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    seth plum said:

    He was as much the real deal and the finished article when we sold him. The only thing Liverpool can add is experience, but I don't believe they will coach him into being a better player.

    Seth, do you actually believe what you post ?

    Liverpool can't coach Gomez, into being a better player ?

    So if Gomez stays there for 10 years, there is absolutely nothing, Liverpool will do to improve him ?

    Laughable.

    Why do any clubs employ coaches then ? If they can't improve a player, once they get to say 19 years of age ?
    There is nothing Liverpool can do that anybody else could do the same.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    LenGlover said:

    Scoham said:

    LenGlover said:

    We gave him away.

    How much did we get for him?

    Think it's more about him than us in that he's that good that he was never going to be here long, no matter how "ambitious" our owner is.
    According to the press £3.5 million or, to put it another way, 14 Joe Gomezs equal 1 Raheem Sterling.
    And according to other sources we got £5-7m plus add ons, which I wouldn't call giving him away.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    edited July 2015
    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    He was as much the real deal and the finished article when we sold him. The only thing Liverpool can add is experience, but I don't believe they will coach him into being a better player.

    Seth, do you actually believe what you post ?

    Liverpool can't coach Gomez, into being a better player ?

    So if Gomez stays there for 10 years, there is absolutely nothing, Liverpool will do to improve him ?

    Laughable.

    Why do any clubs employ coaches then ? If they can't improve a player, once they get to say 19 years of age ?
    There is nothing Liverpool can do that anybody else could do the same.
    I don't understand what this means ?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    He was as much the real deal and the finished article when we sold him. The only thing Liverpool can add is experience, but I don't believe they will coach him into being a better player.

    Seth, do you actually believe what you post ?

    Liverpool can't coach Gomez, into being a better player ?

    So if Gomez stays there for 10 years, there is absolutely nothing, Liverpool will do to improve him ?

    Laughable.

    Why do any clubs employ coaches then ? If they can't improve a player, once they get to say 19 years of age ?
    There is nothing Liverpool can do that anybody else could do the same.
    I don't understand what this means ?
    What I mean is Liverpool, or Charlton of any other half decent club with half decent coaching will support Joe Gomez in his inevitable future footballing success. I posted because it will annoy me greatly if Liverpool claim that he was an ordinary player with us, and could only blossom when they got their mitts on him

  • Wish someone ITK would fess up to the exact details of the deal as whatever Liverpool paid for Joe it wasnt enough

    Well, my colleague is good friends with a Liverpool Board Director who told him it was £3.5M.
  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,329
    edited July 2015
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  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344

    Wish someone ITK would fess up to the exact details of the deal as whatever Liverpool paid for Joe it wasnt enough

    Well, my colleague is good friends with a Liverpool Board Director who told him it was £3.5M.
    Well I rang RD personally earlier and he informed me it was £12.5M

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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    He was as much the real deal and the finished article when we sold him. The only thing Liverpool can add is experience, but I don't believe they will coach him into being a better player.

    Seth, do you actually believe what you post ?

    Liverpool can't coach Gomez, into being a better player ?

    So if Gomez stays there for 10 years, there is absolutely nothing, Liverpool will do to improve him ?

    Laughable.

    Why do any clubs employ coaches then ? If they can't improve a player, once they get to say 19 years of age ?
    There is nothing Liverpool can do that anybody else could do the same.
    Better technical coaching, playing with better players, better physical development strategies, better analytical and positional coaching.....
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    He was as much the real deal and the finished article when we sold him. The only thing Liverpool can add is experience, but I don't believe they will coach him into being a better player.

    Seth, do you actually believe what you post ?

    Liverpool can't coach Gomez, into being a better player ?

    So if Gomez stays there for 10 years, there is absolutely nothing, Liverpool will do to improve him ?

    Laughable.

    Why do any clubs employ coaches then ? If they can't improve a player, once they get to say 19 years of age ?
    There is nothing Liverpool can do that anybody else could do the same.
    Better technical coaching, playing with better players, better physical development strategies, better analytical and positional coaching.....
    Well OK, so do you believe that had Joe been at the Liverpool academy up to now he would be even better than he is?

  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    edited July 2015
    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    He was as much the real deal and the finished article when we sold him. The only thing Liverpool can add is experience, but I don't believe they will coach him into being a better player.

    Seth, do you actually believe what you post ?

    Liverpool can't coach Gomez, into being a better player ?

    So if Gomez stays there for 10 years, there is absolutely nothing, Liverpool will do to improve him ?

    Laughable.

    Why do any clubs employ coaches then ? If they can't improve a player, once they get to say 19 years of age ?
    There is nothing Liverpool can do that anybody else could do the same.
    Better technical coaching, playing with better players, better physical development strategies, better analytical and positional coaching.....
    Well OK, so do you believe that had Joe been at the Liverpool academy up to now he would be even better than he is?

    I'm not sure I can answer that and even if i did how could we say who's right and who's wrong? Charlton have always been excellent with their youngsters...but he's a senior player now.

    The point is that your original comment was that Joe is the finished article already and Liverpool won't coach him into a better player. To me, that's not gonna be the case. He will improve as a player if he stays at Liverpool with the better facilities and coaching environment.
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