Have we ever pulled a number on a bigger club?
Shelvey - £1.7m later sold for £5m+
Jenkinson - £1m now valued at £12m
Parker - £10m went on to make another 300+ prem games
Konchesky - £1.5m, hugely undervalued
Bowyer - £2.3m, worth treble that within a couple of years
Lee - £700k
Can't think of a single instance we've sold a first team youngster up the scale for money who has then flopped / not reached value. Robbie Ellliot hasn't played much, but think newcastle only paid £100k.
Can you think of anyone?
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Sean Mcginty0
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Sean McGinty £500k?0
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Did he play in first team??0
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No, never got near it.AFKABartram said:Did he play in first team??
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Anthony Barness. Can't remember the price but Chelsea paid well over the top for him.1
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mickey bennett maybe . harsh on him as injury did for him eventually
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Danny Mills? Bought for about £400k, sold to Leeds for £4m, okay played a 100 games for them over 4 seasons but went on a free.
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Sold him for 350k, brought him back for 165k.Bangkokaddick said:Anthony Barness. Can't remember the price but Chelsea paid well over the top for him.
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£350kBangkokaddick said:Anthony Barness. Can't remember the price but Chelsea paid well over the top for him.
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Scott Minto? sold him to Chelsea £850,0000
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And played for England at the World CupAlgarveaddick said:Danny Mills? Bought for about £400k, sold for £4m, okay played a 100 games for them over 4 seasons but went on a free.
Free transfer was more to do with Leeds implosion that he ability.
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£1m for Kins wasnt bad business as he hardly played after e left us.
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What about Killer - 300k to Derby and then brought him back 3 years later via WHU for 100K (I think that was the fee).0
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I think that was a proper number on Villa as his knee's were fecked when he left us.Charltonparklane said:£1m for Kins wasnt bad business as he hardly played after e left us.
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What did we get for Killer to Derby for and then pay for him from West Ham?0
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He was a cup winner with Chelsea and although his contract ran out there he was subsequently sold later from Benfica to West Ham for £1m so don't think you can argue he was overpriced.Charlton_Stu said:Scott Minto? sold him to Chelsea £850,000
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Pitcher!! Not to a bigger club of course, but swapping him for Morts and Whytey was daylight robbery4
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Sort of agree, although he only played about 50 games for Chelsea.paulsturgess said:
He was a cup winner with Chelsea and although his contract ran out there he was subsequently sold later from Benfica to West Ham for £1m so don't think you can argue he was overpriced.Charlton_Stu said:Scott Minto? sold him to Chelsea £850,000
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We got rid of Miguel Llera to Sheffield Wednesday... thats gotta be a massive coup
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In the cases of Shelvey and Jenkinson, as with any young player there would have been considerable uncertainty about how well they could cut it at the top level (and thus their value at the time we sold them reflected this risk).
After a couple of seasons of regular Premiership football, that risk is significantly reduced and their value increases accordingly (not dissimilar to what happens with the share price of a company).
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but my point @newyorkaddick is that in evaluating that risk with hindsight, there hasn't been an instance yet (from our home grown sales with first team experience) where it has been proven that the buyer has attained poor value from our sale. Like say a Zaha going to Man U for £10m+, or a Bostock going to Spurs, for example.
We've never really 'oversold' because you could argue we've never been in a strong enough position to oversell (say with Shelvey, Jenkinson).
You would have hoped that with RD as our owner, we would be in that stronger position.2 -
Remains to be seen what RD does with the money. I suppose if your plan isn't to reinvest in the squad then £3.5m is a pretty decent bit of money to make in an afternoonAFKABartram said:but my point @newyorkaddick is that in evaluating that risk with hindsight, there hasn't been an instance yet (from our home grown sales with first team experience) where it has been proven that the buyer has attained poor value from our sale. Like say a Zaha going to Man U for £10m+, or a Bostock going to Spurs, for example.
We've never really 'oversold' because you could argue we've never been in a strong enough position to oversell (say with Shelvey, Jenkinson).
You would have hoped that with RD as our owner, we would be in that stronger position.0 -
I think by definition these instances are very rare given the relative bargaining power you note above, and the fact that the top clubs have outstanding scouting networks (and are presumably also diligent about assessing 'character').AFKABartram said:but my point @newyorkaddick is that in evaluating that risk with hindsight, there hasn't been an instance yet (from our home grown sales with first team experience) where it has been proven that the buyer has attained poor value from our sale. Like say a Zaha going to Man U for £10m+, or a Bostock going to Spurs, for example.
We've never really 'oversold' because you could argue we've never been in a strong enough position to oversell (say with Shelvey, Jenkinson).
You would have hoped that with RD as our owner, we would be in that stronger position.
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Not a home-grown youngster but selling Darren Bent for more than Thierry Henry went for in the same season is worth a mention.
Scott Parker is fair enough I reckon. Chelski ended up losing 5million in the end if transfermarkt.co.uk is to be believed and he barely played for them. The fact that he ended up playing for other Prem clubs is a bit of a non-starter since if we had held onto him we probably would not have found ourselves being relegated so quickly or at all.2 -
Killer to Derby for £333,333 and getting back, via West Ham, can't remember how much for.0
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Know he wasn't ours, but Bent to Spurs was a belter.0
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Riga to Blackpool the premier league giants0
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Mike Flanagan
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