1. Sex Pistols - Silly Thing 2. Stranglers - Hanging Around 3. Plastic Bertrand - Ca Plane Pour Moi 4. Magazine - Shot By Both Sides 5. The Fall - Rollin' Dany
Ever fallen in love/ Everybody's Happy Nowadays. Buzzcocks Sound of the suburbs. Members Blazing Apostles. Be Bop Deluxe Turning Japanese. Vapours / Alternative Ulster SLF My Sharona The Knack
I thought punk and new wave were two very different genres.... Punk is more like rock whereas new wave involves a lot of electronic sounds and is closer to synthpop... Or am I wrong?
I thought punk and new wave were two very different genres.... Punk is more like rock whereas new wave involves a lot of electronic sounds and is closer to synthpop... Or am I wrong?
Think you're right, have a read of Simon Reynolds 'Rip It Up And Start Again', quite a bit of difference between UK Sub's/Angelic Upstarts and Wire/PIL
My personal feeling is that purist "punk" best of's should be confined to 1976/77/78 releases. So called "new wave" was a different animal, and tbh, too clever boy/jerky pop for me, (though there were many stand-out exceptions of course.)
So, pardon the excess, but here is my Top UK&US PUNK compilation from songs released in 1976/77/78. Pure motorway mixtape magic, for me anyway!
The Mekons - Where were you? Gang of Four - Damaged goods Television - Little johnny jewel Stiff Little Fingers - Alternative ulster X-Ray Spex - Oh bondage, up yours The Only Ones - Another girl, another planet John Cooper Clarke - You'll never see a nipple in the daily express Television Personalities - Part-time punks Alternative TV - Love lies limp Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers - Chinese rocks Chelsea - Right to work Sex Pistols - Holidays in the sun Richard Hell & the Voidoids - Blank generation The Clash - Tommy gun The Undertones - Teenage kicks The Jam - Down in the tube station at midnight Destroy All Monsters - Bored Buzzcocks - Ever fallen in love? The Adverts - Looking through gary gilmore's eyes The Damned - New rose
My personal feeling is that purist "punk" best of's should be confined to 1976/77/78 releases. So called "new wave" was a different animal, and tbh, too clever boy/jerky pop for me, (though there were many stand-out exceptions of course.)
So, pardon the excess, but here is my Top UK&US PUNK compilation from songs released in 1976/77/78. Pure motorway mixtape magic, for me anyway!
The Mekons - Where were you? Gang of Four - Damaged goods Television - Little johnny jewel Stiff Little Fingers - Alternative ulster X-Ray Spex - Oh bondage, up yours The Only Ones - Another girl, another planet John Cooper Clarke - You'll never see a nipple in the daily express Television Personalities - Part-time punks Alternative TV - Love lies limp Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers - Chinese rocks Chelsea - Right to work Sex Pistols - Holidays in the sun Richard Hell & the Voidoids - Blank generation The Clash - Tommy gun The Undertones - Teenage kicks The Jam - Down in the tube station at midnight Destroy All Monsters - Bored Buzzcocks - Ever fallen in love? The Adverts - Looking through gary gilmore's eyes The Damned - New rose
You could well be right about two separate categories, but for me there is some cross-over and I didn't want to get into big debates about which is which. That said your JCC choice is inspired: 'You see all kinds of ugliness and hideous excess, but you never see a nipple in the Daily Express." Perhaps there could be another category punk poetry ;-)
Wasn't new wave a broader musical category of which punk was a subset? So for example both Blondie (pop-rock) and Pere Ubu (art-rock) were new wave but not punk, although they were contemporary with it. Anyway:
Television - Marquee Moon Clash - Safe European Home & Complete Control Pere Ubu - 30 Seconds Over Tokyo Pistols - Pretty Vacant
Not really but got lumped in with punk and new wave. First album was good. Good live band too. May have listened to Lou Reed at some point
peter perrett, dead-on punk, though on the wasted rocker side as he evolved. plus, he had spooky tooth's drummer mike kellie on board, so strictly punk? well, that mighty anthem was bought by the same people who snapped up very pic sleeve punky bedroom/garage single from 76/77/78, so, i'm including it.
Wasn't new wave a broader musical category of which punk was a subset? So for example both Blondie (pop-rock) and Pere Ubu (art-rock) were new wave but not punk, although they were contemporary with it. Anyway:
Television - Marquee Moon Clash - Safe European Home & Complete Control Pere Ubu - 30 Seconds Over Tokyo Pistols - Pretty Vacant
Punk, a "sub-set"?!?! please...Punk was an igniting, mobilising moment, and so-called new wave meandered in the vicinity for a while, until many punk bands self-destructed, leaving the field open for the sparkly synths and ejculato vocals to take over. The Punk Wars were fought to help delineate who's who.
Wasn't new wave a broader musical category of which punk was a subset? So for example both Blondie (pop-rock) and Pere Ubu (art-rock) were new wave but not punk, although they were contemporary with it. Anyway:
Television - Marquee Moon Clash - Safe European Home & Complete Control Pere Ubu - 30 Seconds Over Tokyo Pistols - Pretty Vacant
Punk, a "sub-set"?!?! please...Punk was an igniting, mobilising moment, and so-called new wave meandered in the vicinity for a while, until many punk bands self-destructed, leaving the field open for the sparkly synths and ejculato vocals to take over. The Punk Wars were fought to help delineate who's who.
Hanging Around - The Stranglers New Rose - The Damned Pretty Vacant - The Sex Pistols White Riot - The Clash ( album version, which sounded like they were hitting each other with the guitars)
Difficult to pick No 5...so many to choose from, many of which have been mentioned here. It would be from somewhere between UK Subs, Slaughter and the Dogs, The Jam, The Buzzcocks, Elvis Costello, Ian Dury, The Only Ones (good spot Henry), The Suburban Studs, Menace, Generation X.....happy days (and very noisy).
Stranglers- The Raven Buzzcocks- Ever Fallen in Love or What do I get? The Jam- That's Entertainment or Down in the Tube Station at Midnight The Clash- London Calling Sex Pistols - Pretty Vacant
Marquee Moon - Television In the City - The Jam Sometimes - The Stranglers Janie Jones - The Clash Did You No Wrong - Pistols (B side God Save The Queen)
Dis-regarded Dr Feelgood, Eddie & The Hot Rods and Ian Dury, as not really punk. Pete Frame classified them as British Pub Rock. Otherwise would have put in a few of their songs.
No More Heroes - The Stranglers Pretty Vacant - Sex Pistols All Around the World - The Jam Ever Fallen in Love - Buzzcocks Public Image - Public Image Limited The Day the World turned Dayglo - X-Ray Spex
Yeh, I know it's 6, but I can't make up my mind which one to drop :-)
Love will Tear us Apart - Joy Division Teenage Kicks - The Undertones Hong Kong Garden - Siouxie & The Banshees Into The Valley - The Skids Down In A Tube Station - The Jam
The most exciting music environment of all for me. I love all types of music from all areas but punk meant so much in so many ways, influencing my life and how I lived it.
Top 5 is not easy and, to be honest, changes every day. In fact, it could all be Sex Pistols and Clash as they changed everything ...but I decided to look outside the 'top-two'.
Sham 69 - What Have we Got - sounds dated now but they were so good live at the time, music from the terraces for the Sham Army.
UK Subs - Warhead - saw them live so many times, a true punk band, Charlie Harper must be at least 110 now ;-)
Still Little Fingers - Alternative Ulster - so much anger, punk seemed to mean more to them in Belfast, a stunning live band.
Dead Kennedys - California Uber Alles - powerful song, Jello Biafra a great front man.
The Dark - John Wayne - a personal favourite band of my wife and myself, we caught them on their 2nd gig after a review in Sounds by Garry Bushell and subsequently saw all their London gigs over the next couple of years. Never made it big and most of the band now dead unfortunately, but they were a lot of fun at the time.
Alternative Ulster, California Uber Alles, New Rose, Hanging Around, Hammersmith Palais, Marquee Moon, Love will Tear Us Apart, etc etc.
Very tough to pick just five (all these are New Wave), but here goes -
Bouncing Baby - The Teardrop Explodes Villiers Terrace - Echo & The Bunnymen It's Not Enough - The Heartbreakers Life During Wartime - Talking Heads Gloria - Patti Smith
In no particular order . Buzzcocks = What do I get Boomtown Rats = Rat trap Clash = Train in Vain Skids= In to the Valley Magazine = Shot by both sides
Devo = Mongaloid Eddie & the Hot Rods = Media Messiahs The Knack = My Sharona Public Image = Rise Squeeze = Up the Junction .
I'm gonna include hardcore and a few other genres where the lines are blurred with punk.
Black Flag - Nervous Breakdown Devo - Gut Feeling Clash - White Man in Hammersmith Palais Minor Threat - I don't wanna hear it Wire - 12xu Television - Marquee Moon Flipper - Sex Bomb Gun Club - Sex Beat Heaven 17 - (We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang Husker Du - Something I Learned Today The Stooges - I Wanna Be Your Dog Dead Kennedys - Moon Over Marin Germs - Lexicon Devil The Cramps - Green Fuzz X-Ray Spex - The Day The World Turned Dayglow Talking Heads - This Must Be The Place (Naive Melody) Suicide - Ghost Rider Public Image Ltd - Flowers Of Romance
Comments
The Clash - White Riot
The Stranglers - Peaches
Buzzcocks - Orgasm addict
Sex Pistols - Pretty Vacant
Sex Pistols - Anarchy in the UK
Joy Division - Shadow play
Buzzcocks - Boredom
Sham 69 - Borstal Breakout
New Wave
Ever fallen in love/ Everybody's Happy Nowadays. Buzzcocks
Sound of the suburbs. Members
Blazing Apostles. Be Bop Deluxe
Turning Japanese. Vapours / Alternative Ulster SLF
My Sharona The Knack
So, pardon the excess, but here is my Top UK&US PUNK compilation from songs released in 1976/77/78. Pure motorway mixtape magic, for me anyway!
The Mekons - Where were you?
Gang of Four - Damaged goods
Television - Little johnny jewel
Stiff Little Fingers - Alternative ulster
X-Ray Spex - Oh bondage, up yours
The Only Ones - Another girl, another planet
John Cooper Clarke - You'll never see a nipple in the daily express
Television Personalities - Part-time punks
Alternative TV - Love lies limp
Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers - Chinese rocks
Chelsea - Right to work
Sex Pistols - Holidays in the sun
Richard Hell & the Voidoids - Blank generation
The Clash - Tommy gun
The Undertones - Teenage kicks
The Jam - Down in the tube station at midnight
Destroy All Monsters - Bored
Buzzcocks - Ever fallen in love?
The Adverts - Looking through gary gilmore's eyes
The Damned - New rose
Another Girl, Another Planet - Only Ones
When You're Young - The Jam
Teenage Kicks - The Undertones
Jamie Jones - The Clash
Boredom - Buzzcocks
Bloody - Golinski Brothers
Waiting for the Great Leap forward - Billy Bragg
Where's Bill Grundy Now - TV Personalities
Need another list for US bands
Television - Marquee Moon
Clash - Safe European Home & Complete Control
Pere Ubu - 30 Seconds Over Tokyo
Pistols - Pretty Vacant
New Rose - The Damned
Pretty Vacant - The Sex Pistols
White Riot - The Clash ( album version, which sounded like they were hitting each other with the guitars)
Difficult to pick No 5...so many to choose from, many of which have been mentioned here. It would be from somewhere between UK Subs, Slaughter and the Dogs, The Jam, The Buzzcocks, Elvis Costello, Ian Dury, The Only Ones (good spot Henry), The Suburban Studs, Menace, Generation X.....happy days (and very noisy).
Stranglers- The Raven
Buzzcocks- Ever Fallen in Love or What do I get?
The Jam- That's Entertainment or Down in the Tube Station at Midnight
The Clash- London Calling
Sex Pistols - Pretty Vacant
Wire - I Should Have Known Better
Ultravox! - I Want To Be A Machine
Magazine - Back To Nature
XTC - Complicated Game
The Fall - Frightened
...but I've missed out loads, and kept it to the original era (my favourite Wire song is 2001's Comet, for instance)
In the City - The Jam
Sometimes - The Stranglers
Janie Jones - The Clash
Did You No Wrong - Pistols (B side God Save The Queen)
Dis-regarded Dr Feelgood, Eddie & The Hot Rods and Ian Dury, as not really punk. Pete Frame classified them as British Pub Rock. Otherwise would have put in a few of their songs.
Pretty Vacant - Sex Pistols
All Around the World - The Jam
Ever Fallen in Love - Buzzcocks
Public Image - Public Image Limited
The Day the World turned Dayglo - X-Ray Spex
Yeh, I know it's 6, but I can't make up my mind which one to drop :-)
Teenage Kicks - The Undertones
Hong Kong Garden - Siouxie & The Banshees
Into The Valley - The Skids
Down In A Tube Station - The Jam
Top 5 is not easy and, to be honest, changes every day. In fact, it could all be Sex Pistols and Clash as they changed everything ...but I decided to look outside the 'top-two'.
Sham 69 - What Have we Got - sounds dated now but they were so good live at the time, music from the terraces for the Sham Army.
UK Subs - Warhead - saw them live so many times, a true punk band, Charlie Harper must be at least 110 now ;-)
Still Little Fingers - Alternative Ulster - so much anger, punk seemed to mean more to them in Belfast, a stunning live band.
Dead Kennedys - California Uber Alles - powerful song, Jello Biafra a great front man.
The Dark - John Wayne - a personal favourite band of my wife and myself, we caught them on their 2nd gig after a review in Sounds by Garry Bushell and subsequently saw all their London gigs over the next couple of years. Never made it big and most of the band now dead unfortunately, but they were a lot of fun at the time.
Alternative Ulster, California Uber Alles, New Rose, Hanging Around, Hammersmith Palais, Marquee Moon, Love will Tear Us Apart, etc etc.
Very tough to pick just five (all these are New Wave), but here goes -
Bouncing Baby - The Teardrop Explodes
Villiers Terrace - Echo & The Bunnymen
It's Not Enough - The Heartbreakers
Life During Wartime - Talking Heads
Gloria - Patti Smith
No More Heroes - The Stranglers
Tommy Gun - The Clash
Homicide - 999
Hong Kong Garden - Siouxsie and the Banshees.
Buzzcocks = What do I get
Boomtown Rats = Rat trap
Clash = Train in Vain
Skids= In to the Valley
Magazine = Shot by both sides
Devo = Mongaloid
Eddie & the Hot Rods = Media Messiahs
The Knack = My Sharona
Public Image = Rise
Squeeze = Up the Junction .
Black Flag - Nervous Breakdown
Devo - Gut Feeling
Clash - White Man in Hammersmith Palais
Minor Threat - I don't wanna hear it
Wire - 12xu
Television - Marquee Moon
Flipper - Sex Bomb
Gun Club - Sex Beat
Heaven 17 - (We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang
Husker Du - Something I Learned Today
The Stooges - I Wanna Be Your Dog
Dead Kennedys - Moon Over Marin
Germs - Lexicon Devil
The Cramps - Green Fuzz
X-Ray Spex - The Day The World Turned Dayglow
Talking Heads - This Must Be The Place (Naive Melody)
Suicide - Ghost Rider
Public Image Ltd - Flowers Of Romance