Everyone was optimistic about polish pete...he was crap. I dont hold out much hope tbh and have a gut feeling he will be rubbish
There is nothing like being positive. Why would you think he is rubbish before seeing him play? It doesn't make sense, just because Polish Pete is not good it doesn't mean that Patrick Baeur is the same. There is no correlation between the two.
To be fair to SCP, plenty on here think he will be good before seeing him. Just a matter of whether your glass is half full or half empty at the moment I guess.
I am personally cautiously optimistic about the signing. Cautious for the reasons AFKA points out above but optimistic given what I have read about him. Anyway, we now have one first team squad CB so that is a (small) start.
That was pretty much the whole point of my post...
Everyone was optimistic about polish pete...he was crap. I dont hold out much hope tbh and have a gut feeling he will be rubbish
Have fun with that feeling, he was part of an unfancied team that got to the Portuguese equivalent of the FA Cup final just last season, he has to have a bit about him
Bradford got to the final of the league cup a couple of seasons ago, all of their players must be good enough to play in the Championship for us.....
"Having something about you" and "entire squad must be good enough to play for us" are two completely different kettles of fish. Bradford beat Chelsea last season in the cup, does that also mean none of the Chelsea squad are good enough for us? Of course it doesn't.
He ticks a lot of boxes, but so did Polish Pete, Reza and Thuram and those examples mean I'm a little more cautious to make any judgement on an overseas signing until actually seeing them play.
If he is the new Carl Tiler, I'll be happy with that.
Every player should be judged after seeing them play over a period of time. There just seems a tendency to write players off before they have played for us which, to me, is illogical. Yes we have made mistakes with Foreign players in the past, but we have also had successes.
Just to point out, im not writing him off and will judge him when i see him play. My post was basically trying to make the point that everyone saying he is a good signing without seeing him play (not singling you out DP btw)
I am pleased purely because for a great deal of last season (once Bikey lost the plot for whatever reason in fact) it was apparent we lacked a defender who had height and presence and could attack a ball in the air either defensively or at an attacking set piece. Johnson could have been that man if not for the rib injury but he's now gone, yet straight away the weakness has been addressed, in theory of course at this stage but that's better than nothing.
I would still prefer at least one older head in the defence to keep things organised - Solly seems to suffer if he has to try and organise the entire defence as well as play his own game, Fox is probably not leadership material yet, and Bikey is... Bikey. A wily old pro like Ben Haim or Johnson would not go amiss at all, but there's plenty of time.
Everyone was optimistic about polish pete...he was crap. I dont hold out much hope tbh and have a gut feeling he will be rubbish
I wasn't , I could see he was a park footballer playing with a stadium around him Vetokele looked a proper player from his YouTube stuff and his first dozen or so games for us he was This fella looks very upright and if I'm allowed to post my worthless view on him I reckon
25% good signing .... 40% average signing ...... 35% on loan to a chuff network club within the year
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He may be rubbish but... Maritimo are in the Primeira Liga which is seen as the fifth best European League, ahead of France and just behind Italy, with FC Porto having won the Champions League in the recent era.
Polish Pete on the hand was signed from De Graafschap who at the time were a Dutch 2nd Division side which is no where near the level of the Portuguese top tier whilst the Dutch Eredivisie is only regarded at Europe's 9th top tier which is behind Ukraine and Russia in the rankings
Was voted 3rd best defender in Portugal for season 2013/14. Says heading is his obvious strength
Wonder if he's been signed for attacking corners an area we were extremely weak at last season (Bikey v Wolves was one of the few corners we scored from wasnt it?)
As well I'd like to see how he manouvers, for a big guy up against some quick Championship defenders I hope he's not one of these units with the turning ability of a WW2 tank
He may be rubbish but... Maritimo are in the Primeira Liga which is seen as the fifth best European League, ahead of France and just behind Italy, with FC Porto having won the Champions League in the recent era.
Polish Pete on the hand was signed from De Graafschap who at the time were a Dutch 2nd Division side which is no where near the level of the Portuguese top tier whilst the Dutch Eredivisie is only regarded at Europe's 9th top tier which is behind Ukraine and Russia in the rankings
He shouldn't struggle with the physical nature of the league, being that he's absolutely massive. Then again, I've got a mate about his size and he's completely shit at football. Then again my mate's never played for Germany at youth level. I forget my point.
Welcome Patrick. Dominate opposition strikers like a pool sun lounger and you'll be a success.
Nothing on their Charlton home page and nothing on their Transfer Deals page: "All Premier League, Football League, Scottish Premiership and major European transfers will appear here."
Hmmmm, part Richard Rufus, part Patrick Mc Carthy? ...and where were the supporters in the footage? Friendlies? Still, he does look fit. Looking forward to seeing it all gel, all you can do...
For the first signing of the summer I'm pretty pleased. Young player, long contract and in a position that needed addressing.
Obviously we can't judge until he's played a few games but looks like he has the potential to be a decent signing.
A few more signings like this, along with a few with championship experience and I'll be hoping to finish higher than our 12th place last year, rather than lower.
He ticks a lot of boxes, but so did Polish Pete, Reza and Thuram and those examples mean I'm a little more cautious to make any judgement on an overseas signing until actually seeing them play.
If he is the new Carl Tiler, I'll be happy with that.
From that video I am bit concerned he'll be the new Harry Cripps!
He ticks a lot of boxes, but so did Polish Pete, Reza and Thuram and those examples mean I'm a little more cautious to make any judgement on an overseas signing until actually seeing them play.
If he is the new Carl Tiler, I'll be happy with that.
He ticks a lot of boxes, but so did Polish Pete, Reza and Thuram and those examples mean I'm a little more cautious to make any judgement on an overseas signing until actually seeing them play.
If he is the new Carl Tiler, I'll be happy with that.
From that video I am bit concerned he'll be the new Harry Cripps!
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Optimism, as long as it isn't the blind "what's not to like" variety, is much more fun over the summer.
I would still prefer at least one older head in the defence to keep things organised - Solly seems to suffer if he has to try and organise the entire defence as well as play his own game, Fox is probably not leadership material yet, and Bikey is... Bikey. A wily old pro like Ben Haim or Johnson would not go amiss at all, but there's plenty of time.
Vetokele looked a proper player from his YouTube stuff and his first dozen or so games for us he was
This fella looks very upright and if I'm allowed to post my worthless view on him I reckon
25% good signing .... 40% average signing ...... 35% on loan to a chuff network club within the year
Disclaimer : the views of this poster are those of the originator and do not necessarily represent the views of Charlton Life
Polish Pete on the hand was signed from De Graafschap who at the time were a Dutch 2nd Division side which is no where near the level of the Portuguese top tier whilst the Dutch Eredivisie is only regarded at Europe's 9th top tier which is behind Ukraine and Russia in the rankings
Please Move on.
Welcome Patrick. Dominate opposition strikers like a pool sun lounger and you'll be a success.
Nothing on their Charlton home page and nothing on their Transfer Deals page:
"All Premier League, Football League, Scottish Premiership and major European transfers will appear here."
I thought the BBC's remit was to report news?
Obviously we can't judge until he's played a few games but looks like he has the potential to be a decent signing.
A few more signings like this, along with a few with championship experience and I'll be hoping to finish higher than our 12th place last year, rather than lower.
The BBC now mentioning it, though also still repeating the £3.5m figure...