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Mhairi Black (and her maiden Commons speech)

Callumcafc
Callumcafc Posts: 63,781
edited July 2015 in Not Sports Related
If you haven't watched it, you should. Wow. What an impressive 20 year old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZAmhB55_-k
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  • CAFC Luke
    CAFC Luke Posts: 228
    If only all politicians were of the same breed. She identifies with what a lot of the UK think about the Labour party now, and has the opportunity to voice that through the SNP. it is a real shame there is not a party of similar values within England
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,169
    very impressive.
    let's hope the bastards don't grind her down.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,326
    CAFC Luke said:

    it is a real shame there is not a party of similar values within England

    There is, but it keeps doing utterly idiotic things like putting certified hopeless case Natalie Bennett in charge
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,045
    I actually just think the SNP should just be in control of the UK. I didn't agree with Scottish independence at the referendum but the more I hear the more I like.
  • cafcledbury
    cafcledbury Posts: 1,228
    edited July 2015
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  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,179
    I don't think it matters which side of the political spectrum you come from and how much you agree or disagree with her (personally I'm pretty sympathetic) you have to be impressed with such eloquence and passion from a 20 year old.

    As said above, I hope she's still got that passion at the next general election and hasn't had it all bashed out of her.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,647
    edited July 2015

    As said above, I hope she's still got that passion at the next general erection and hasn't had it all bashed out of her.

    Depends on how many say yes to the would'ya.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,781
    se9addick said:

    I actually just think the SNP should just be in control of the UK. I didn't agree with Scottish independence at the referendum but the more I hear the more I like.

    Gotta agree. They're showing Labour up at the minute.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    'I didn't leave the labour party, the labour party left me'.
    I get this, my question is why young, or any age Labour activists seem to feel so stymied.
    In the Conservative party it is easy to understand because there you have to be, as Thatcher said 'one of us', presumably that means on the top end of the selfish spectrum. With Labour the sense of inclusiveness seems to be absent.
    On another note I see the Tories are going to bring in laws to restrict Unions, I think good, because now we can go for French style activism and the gloves will come right off.
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    seth plum said:

    'I didn't leave the labour party, the labour party left me'.
    I get this, my question is why young, or any age Labour activists seem to feel so stymied.
    In the Conservative party it is easy to understand because there you have to be, as Thatcher said 'one of us', presumably that means on the top end of the selfish spectrum. With Labour the sense of inclusiveness seems to be absent.

    You might find the answer to your question if maybe you didn't start from a false premise (i.e. that Tories have to be selfish and that Labour is inclusive). Try not to view the situation from a tribal platform and you might understand why so many people that those Labour used to take for granted have switched away.
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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    You missed the word 'presumably'.
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    yes i also hope that people like this young socialist lady also join Labour and Labour continues to show its true values ----they have no mandate in England the country they hate.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    All those rabid socialist taxi drivers who through word of mouth can bring London to a standstill through gridlock, will the Conservative anti Union legislation work there? I await the scenes where hundreds of police officers drag them from their cabs in Parliament Square as each individual Taxi driver is arrested for a driving offence.
    Tories Uber Alles kind of thing.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    Nice speech, shame there was hardly anyone there to listen to it.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,326
    seth plum said:

    All those rabid socialist taxi drivers who through word of mouth can bring London to a standstill through gridlock, will the Conservative anti Union legislation work there? I await the scenes where hundreds of police officers drag them from their cabs in Parliament Square as each individual Taxi driver is arrested for a driving offence.
    Tories Uber Alles kind of thing.

    You went quite a long way for this pun, admirable stuff :D
  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    Outstanding.
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    seth plum said:

    Tories Uber Alles

    You are Polly Toynbee and I claim my five pounds.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,326
    Tories Uber Hailo
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    edited July 2015
    Great speech from an incredibly intelligent young women.
    I enjoyed her Tony Benn reference, however Benn (arguably a brilliant man) couldn't make his views work and neither will Black, nothing will change and the Tories will continue to batter and rob the working class and the poor, they always have done and always will.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Greenie said:

    Great speech from an incredibly intelligent young women.
    I enjoyed her Tony Benn reference, however Benn (arguably a brilliant man) couldn't make his views work and neither will Black, nothing will change and the Tories will continue to batter and rob the working class and the poor, they always have done and always will.

    Spot on.
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360

    As said above, I hope she's still got that passion at the next general erection and hasn't had it all bashed out of her.

    Depends on how many say yes to the would'ya.
    Maybe...
  • Bryan_Kynsie
    Bryan_Kynsie Posts: 2,179
    What does that speech do for the poor people in her constituency that she talks of? For that matter what are the 50 odd SNP MPs lounging around and listening to her doing for those people by being down in London? I'm sure they are well pleased that Fox Hunting won't be making an early comeback...

    Doesn't the SNP led Scottish Government have a role to play in alleviating the poverty in Paisley she is concerned about and oughtn't they be getting on with it, thus setting an example of how their policies are better for the people they appeal to?
  • Tramp
    Tramp Posts: 202
    'Fraid to say, Greenie is right, nearly the whole of the UK, including Scotland, is owned by a relative handful of people and they effectively control everything. The rest of us, including our young hero and her boss, and the likes of Jeremy Corbyn, are just plebs.
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    nearly right mate except Corbyn is a c--t not a pleb
  • Bryan_Kynsie
    Bryan_Kynsie Posts: 2,179

    nearly right mate except Corbyn is a c--t not a pleb

    Why is he? Actually he says what he thinks and that is rare amongst politicians. We are all free to disagree with him but it doesn't make him a c*nt per se.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,326
    Oh look, someone engaged Goonerhater. How cute!
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304

    What does that speech do for the poor people in her constituency that she talks of? For that matter what are the 50 odd SNP MPs lounging around and listening to her doing for those people by being down in London? I'm sure they are well pleased that Fox Hunting won't be making an early comeback...

    Doesn't the SNP led Scottish Government have a role to play in alleviating the poverty in Paisley she is concerned about and oughtn't they be getting on with it, thus setting an example of how their policies are better for the people they appeal to?

    Yes, she should get back to where she belongs and leave the politics to overpriveledged southerners because they are making such a great job of it.
  • mcgrandall
    mcgrandall Posts: 931
    edited July 2015

    What does that speech do for the poor people in her constituency that she talks of? For that matter what are the 50 odd SNP MPs lounging around and listening to her doing for those people by being down in London? I'm sure they are well pleased that Fox Hunting won't be making an early comeback...

    Doesn't the SNP led Scottish Government have a role to play in alleviating the poverty in Paisley she is concerned about and oughtn't they be getting on with it, thus setting an example of how their policies are better for the people they appeal to?

    That is what the Scottish assembly is for.
  • Very impressive maiden speech and I agree with all she said.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Are there sub titles?