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Goal Scoring Rate .. Best for Charlton ?

What would you say is a good goal scoring rate for striker and midfield ? Top goal scoring rate for Charlton ?

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,264
    42
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    4 and seven eighths
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,896
    Strikers: Ralph Allen in the thirties - 32 in 28 (I think); Killer in '76 (16 in 16 before being sold).
    Wide Midfield: can be anything between 10 and 20 a season. 15 is good.
    Centre Midfield: Anywhere between 8 and 12 a season is good for us. Bowyer was excellent (15 in '96 was it?)
  • so JBG 11 goals in 37 games is on the good side
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,896

    so JBG 11 goals in 37 games is on the good side

    Yes!!!!
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,965
    Pedro45 said:

    Strikers: Ralph Allen in the thirties - 32 in 28 (I think); Killer in '76 (16 in 16 before being sold).
    Wide Midfield: can be anything between 10 and 20 a season. 15 is good.
    Centre Midfield: Anywhere between 8 and 12 a season is good for us. Bowyer was excellent (15 in '96 was it?)

    10 and 20 a season?! that is very optimistic. Our strikers often don't get more than 10 - in the last 20 odd years I reckon only Bowyer, Jackson and Jase got to double figures. Maybe Graham Stuart?
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,475
    I would say a decent rate for a striker would be 17 to 22 and that would be for a club right at the top end of the table .. Last season Tractor Boy Murphy was the top champ scorer with 27 .. he had an exceptional season .. Hornet Deeney and Dusty Blackburn Rhodes were next with 21 .. for a midfielder/winger ? .. somewhere around 12 to 15, but you'd need two doing that to get anywhere .. the mark of a good team is when the goals are spread around .. BUT .. no good scoring lots if the defence is as porous as a colander ..
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,896

    Pedro45 said:

    Strikers: Ralph Allen in the thirties - 32 in 28 (I think); Killer in '76 (16 in 16 before being sold).
    Wide Midfield: can be anything between 10 and 20 a season. 15 is good.
    Centre Midfield: Anywhere between 8 and 12 a season is good for us. Bowyer was excellent (15 in '96 was it?)

    10 and 20 a season?! that is very optimistic. Our strikers often don't get more than 10 - in the last 20 odd years I reckon only Bowyer, Jackson and Jase got to double figures. Maybe Graham Stuart?
    Well it depends what sort of wide player you are...Jacko in league one got well into double figures, as did JBG last season. In past years, Johnny Summers would often score you 20 a season from the wing, as would some other stalwarts of bygone days (Hirst for instance). Stockholmaddick asked what was a good scoring rate - I gave my opinion on what is good, not what they actually do each season
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,394
    Pedro45 said:

    so JBG 11 goals in 37 games is on the good side

    Yes!!!!
    Buyens taking penalties stopped JBG scoring a lot more. Could have been a very good tally .
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,562
    Pedro45 said:

    Pedro45 said:

    Strikers: Ralph Allen in the thirties - 32 in 28 (I think); Killer in '76 (16 in 16 before being sold).
    Wide Midfield: can be anything between 10 and 20 a season. 15 is good.
    Centre Midfield: Anywhere between 8 and 12 a season is good for us. Bowyer was excellent (15 in '96 was it?)

    10 and 20 a season?! that is very optimistic. Our strikers often don't get more than 10 - in the last 20 odd years I reckon only Bowyer, Jackson and Jase got to double figures. Maybe Graham Stuart?
    Well it depends what sort of wide player you are...Jacko in league one got well into double figures, as did JBG last season. In past years, Johnny Summers would often score you 20 a season from the wing, as would some other stalwarts of bygone days (Hirst for instance). Stockholmaddick asked what was a good scoring rate - I gave my opinion on what is good, not what they actually do each season

    JBG 11 - Well into double figures?

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  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,858

    Pedro45 said:

    so JBG 11 goals in 37 games is on the good side

    Yes!!!!
    Buyens taking penalties stopped JBG scoring a lot more. Could have been a very good tally .
    What a bizarre comment
  • Stone
    Stone Posts: 3,026
    Rule of thumb is generally 1 in 3 for striker and 1 in 5 for a midfielder.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,265
    edited July 2015
    Stone said:

    Rule of thumb is generally 1 in 3 for striker and 1 in 5 for a midfielder.

    I would say 1 in 2 for a quality striker.............have a look at Jimmy Greaves & Cloughie's records. Alan Shearer is probably closest in the era.

    our best over the past 40 years (since I've been watching) has been Killer, Mendonca & Benty - with BWP & Andy Hunt coming close but only over a short period of time.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,822
    I think anything above 20 is decent for a striker and 7 for a midfielder. I think a centre half should be looking at 2.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,475
    'Kashi joined Metz from LB Chateauroux in 2012 and scored one goal in 86 outings during his time at the club; .. so don't expect too much/too many from Ahmed
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,230
    Pretty sure Johnny Robinson broke 10 goals on at least one occasion. Kins as well maybe?
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,075
    Anyway back to the question. What is best goal scoring rate for charlton with say minimum 20 goals. Reckon shirty would know.
  • I guess depends on time on pitch as Jordan Cousins 86 games 5 goals looks a low return but as with any younger player there must be a high % of coming on as a sub for a few minutes.

  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,192
    Stone said:

    Rule of thumb is generally 1 in 3 for striker and 1 in 5 for a midfielder.

    5 in 1 for Lionel Messi !
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,696
    edited July 2015

    Pedro45 said:

    Strikers: Ralph Allen in the thirties - 32 in 28 (I think); Killer in '76 (16 in 16 before being sold).
    Wide Midfield: can be anything between 10 and 20 a season. 15 is good.
    Centre Midfield: Anywhere between 8 and 12 a season is good for us. Bowyer was excellent (15 in '96 was it?)

    10 and 20 a season?! that is very optimistic. Our strikers often don't get more than 10 - in the last 20 odd years I reckon only Bowyer, Jackson and Jase got to double figures. Maybe Graham Stuart?
    JBG last season and Wagstaff in 2010/11.

    Nicky Bailey as well before that.

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  • Has to be Steve Stacey - 1 game 1 goal.

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