Keane at his peak was. There was no one better in his position around 98/99.
I wouldn't describe Cantona as world class. He was a good Premier League player but didn't perform at the top level, i.e. Champion's League. Can't argue with Ronaldo, Giggs and Scholes though. Agree that Schmiechael should be up there.
What about Van Nistelrooy as a forward? Ferdinand at his peak? Beckham even?
Keane at his peak was. There was no one better in his position around 98/99.
I wouldn't describe Cantona as world class. He was a good Premier League player but didn't perform at the top level, i.e. Champion's League. Can't argue with Ronaldo, Giggs and Scholes though. Agree that Schmiechael should be up there.
What about Van Nistelrooy as a forward? Ferdinand at his peak? Beckham even?
I think Cantona was part of the United team that took a while to get used to how to win in the CL. You've got to remember that English clubs being banned after Heisel and the time it took for us to re-adjust etc. Cantona was slap bang in the time of their early CL attempts. For me he was class, probably my best ever player. Probably had something to do with my age at the time being 10-16 when he was playing.
I had this video when I was younger called Eric the King. That video demonstrated how much emphasis Alex placed on Cantona being the catalyst for United to turn into a powerhouse. He was the start of it IMO. I couldn't believe Leeds agreed to sell him and for only £1.2m.
Cantona is for me one of the greats of football. Van Nistelrooy was a great striker, but then so was Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke. All of them had great goal scoring records. Ferdinand yes was class, but do you compare him to a Maldini and say, he was as good. Beckham, great for England and such a talent, was it perhaps the manner in which Beckham left that Alex Ferguson omitted him. Tough to call
10/15 years ago, Keane and Vieira were colossus in midfield, the perfect midfielders able to do everything, box to box energy, creative, goal scorers, able to put their foot in...
Both teams have never really replaced them properly, that's a sign of how good they were
10/15 years ago, Keane and Vieira were colossus in midfield, the perfect midfielders able to do everything, box to box energy, creative, goal scorers, able to put their foot in...
Both teams have never really replaced them properly, that's a sign of how good they were
I think had Parker stayed with us for the whole season, he would have replaced Keane at Utd.
Eric Cantona came to England at the age of 26 because he was persona non grata in France where he had run ins and fights with so many players and Coaches that After calling every member of a disciplinary board idiots; his time in France was untenable and on the advice of his Psychoanalyst came to England. After Wednesday and Liverpool turned him down because of his record of unrest. Went to Leeds then United and the rest is History. What can not be disputed ? Eric is a genius on the football field but mad as a box of frogs off it. He never played for France again after his Bruce Lee/Jackie Chan exploits and never looked as good in European football as he did in the domestic game. Maybe Fergie's fault because he was isolated a lot in the Euro matches.
Ferguson catered to the Narcissistic mirror man Ronaldo , who is world class by any standards and the superb quiet lads Giggs and Scholes as well.
Yaap Stam(the Book) and Roy Keane and maybe Schmeichel all stood up to him and Fergie was a bully and autocratic so there was only one winner. Van Nistelrooy was a world class striker but when he started to upset Ronaldo in training by taking the mickey out of his vanity his time was up as well.
That is just Ferguson opinion and as we know, he does hold grudges.
If Fergie hadn't had his relentless grudges, he'd never have been able to get up in the morning. Given his well-defined personality type, he will cling on to his grudges until the day he dies.
Keane at his peak was. There was no one better in his position around 98/99.
I wouldn't describe Cantona as world class. He was a good Premier League player but didn't perform at the top level, i.e. Champion's League. Can't argue with Ronaldo, Giggs and Scholes though. Agree that Schmiechael should be up there.
What about Van Nistelrooy as a forward? Ferdinand at his peak? Beckham even?
I think Cantona was part of the United team that took a while to get used to how to win in the CL. You've got to remember that English clubs being banned after Heisel and the time it took for us to re-adjust etc. Cantona was slap bang in the time of their early CL attempts. For me he was class, probably my best ever player. Probably had something to do with my age at the time being 10-16 when he was playing.
I had this video when I was younger called Eric the King. That video demonstrated how much emphasis Alex placed on Cantona being the catalyst for United to turn into a powerhouse. He was the start of it IMO. I couldn't believe Leeds agreed to sell him and for only £1.2m.
Cantona is for me one of the greats of football. Van Nistelrooy was a great striker, but then so was Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke. All of them had great goal scoring records. Ferdinand yes was class, but do you compare him to a Maldini and say, he was as good. Beckham, great for England and such a talent, was it perhaps the manner in which Beckham left that Alex Ferguson omitted him. Tough to call
Very good point actually and I think it's something City are dealing with now too.
Keane at his peak was. There was no one better in his position around 98/99.
I wouldn't describe Cantona as world class. He was a good Premier League player but didn't perform at the top level, i.e. Champion's League. Can't argue with Ronaldo, Giggs and Scholes though. Agree that Schmiechael should be up there.
What about Van Nistelrooy as a forward? Ferdinand at his peak? Beckham even?
I think Cantona was part of the United team that took a while to get used to how to win in the CL. You've got to remember that English clubs being banned after Heisel and the time it took for us to re-adjust etc. Cantona was slap bang in the time of their early CL attempts. For me he was class, probably my best ever player. Probably had something to do with my age at the time being 10-16 when he was playing.
I had this video when I was younger called Eric the King. That video demonstrated how much emphasis Alex placed on Cantona being the catalyst for United to turn into a powerhouse. He was the start of it IMO. I couldn't believe Leeds agreed to sell him and for only £1.2m.
Cantona is for me one of the greats of football. Van Nistelrooy was a great striker, but then so was Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke. All of them had great goal scoring records. Ferdinand yes was class, but do you compare him to a Maldini and say, he was as good. Beckham, great for England and such a talent, was it perhaps the manner in which Beckham left that Alex Ferguson omitted him. Tough to call
There were also only 3 foreigners allowed in the team in europe.
World class to me means that a player at their peak would walk into any team in the world. Under SAFs time at United there were MUCH more than 4 players that would've done this. He absolutely holds grudges and probably enjoys winding specific players up by not mentioning them.
Beckham had a world class image, but wasn't world class as a player. Was leagues behind the big midfield names at the time.
His best goalscoring season contained 11 goals, and his best assist season was 15. Hardly prolific for a winger.
In all-time numbers of assists in the Premier League, David Beckham is behind names such as: Nani, Luis Valencia, Morten Gamst Pedersen and Leighton Baines.
For such a famed fantastic crosser, you'd expect far better stats than that.
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I wouldn't describe Cantona as world class. He was a good Premier League player but didn't perform at the top level, i.e. Champion's League. Can't argue with Ronaldo, Giggs and Scholes though. Agree that Schmiechael should be up there.
What about Van Nistelrooy as a forward? Ferdinand at his peak? Beckham even?
I had this video when I was younger called Eric the King. That video demonstrated how much emphasis Alex placed on Cantona being the catalyst for United to turn into a powerhouse. He was the start of it IMO. I couldn't believe Leeds agreed to sell him and for only £1.2m.
Cantona is for me one of the greats of football. Van Nistelrooy was a great striker, but then so was Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke. All of them had great goal scoring records. Ferdinand yes was class, but do you compare him to a Maldini and say, he was as good. Beckham, great for England and such a talent, was it perhaps the manner in which Beckham left that Alex Ferguson omitted him. Tough to call
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34311859 "Ferguson demanded pay rise to match Rooney" ?
Didn't he pretty much appoint Moyes ?
He's not had a good word to say about Beckham since he decided to have a life outside of AF's undercarriage.
Is one of the "arts of management: Leading" kicking crockery around the changing room ?
Yes I think @guinnessaddick may be right!!
Both teams have never really replaced them properly, that's a sign of how good they were
In the Vieira & Keane documentary, Keane chose Paul Parker as the best right back at United during his time there.
Eric Cantona came to England at the age of 26 because he was persona non grata
in France where he had run ins and fights with so many players and Coaches that
After calling every member of a disciplinary board idiots; his time in France was untenable and on the advice of his Psychoanalyst came to England.
After Wednesday and Liverpool turned him down because of his record of unrest.
Went to Leeds then United and the rest is History.
What can not be disputed ? Eric is a genius on the football field but mad as a box of frogs off it.
He never played for France again after his Bruce Lee/Jackie Chan exploits
and never looked as good in European football as he did in the domestic game.
Maybe Fergie's fault because he was isolated a lot in the Euro matches.
Ferguson catered to the Narcissistic mirror man Ronaldo ,
who is world class by any standards
and the superb quiet lads Giggs and Scholes as well.
Yaap Stam(the Book) and Roy Keane and maybe Schmeichel all stood up to him and Fergie was a bully and autocratic so there was only one winner.
Van Nistelrooy was a world class striker but when he started to upset Ronaldo in training by taking the mickey out of his vanity his time was up as well.
That is just Ferguson opinion and as we know, he does hold grudges.
One strike which went between his legs and he was out.
His best goalscoring season contained 11 goals, and his best assist season was 15. Hardly prolific for a winger.
In all-time numbers of assists in the Premier League, David Beckham is behind names such as: Nani, Luis Valencia, Morten Gamst Pedersen and Leighton Baines.
For such a famed fantastic crosser, you'd expect far better stats than that.