Charlton v. Brentford post match views 2015/16
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Pretty sure it was the decision to take Makienok off that was booed. He was our only outlet up top and was winning everything. The other lazy fuck up top just wasn't getting on the end of it2
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Not renewing my season ticket was my most sensible decision I've made in years2
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Anyone know what the attendance was today? I would say that it was an embarrassing sub 10k.
I don't blame the stay away fans, but after AB revelations of the hike in actual attendances from reality, I doubt that we shall get an accurate figure anyway.
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Yes, I was watching both. Stream very choppy and frustrating, you're lucky you missed it! It was on firstrowsports for future reference.JessieAddick said:
What? There was a stream? I didn't know that.... I was watching West Ham's match against Chelsea while following the Match Thread on here. Probably nothing much missed.queensland_addick said:Watched the stream, wish I hadn't. No passion, no desire, no fight, no character. Over run by McOxo and Judge. What hope is there when players give so little for their manager and fans as soon as they lose a few games? How about fighting to turn it around, rather than doing all they can to get the manager sacked. We'll be changing manager every six months at this rate. Anyway bring back Riga or Curbs, we are now in yet another relegation battle.
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Absolute crap. The club no longer bears any resemblance to the old Charlton I've followed for over 25 years. Not willing to give any more of my hard earned wages to RD's retirement fund.
I'm afraid to say it's definitely time to do a Blackpool and start boycotting Charlton for a non-league side like Welling United or Bromley.2 -
Luzon must go .. as simple as that .. the experiment has blown up the laboratory .. the players potentially are good enough to keep us up BUT .. WE NEED A DECENT MANAGER .. who knows this division and what tactics to use .. 90% of us on here know as much about tactics and what is required as does Luzon .. he MUST go A S A P0
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The new Alex Ferguson.....Embarassing, really.
Watt lazy? - who knew?0 -
We are so pedestrian in midfield its embarrassing. The full backs were awful as were the wide players. Once we conceded heads went down and the game was over. Despite conceding three Saar and Bauer were our best players. Jacko's best days are long gone. Cousins is regressing and we miss Kashi. Saying that if we had taken even one of our early chances it may have been different, but we didn't. Also my previous sympathy with Luzon has waned. I'm sure someone else could get better from these players. Someone may get that chance soon.1
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Shite once they went ahead it was game over and they were there for the taking. This club will be the next pompey. Where are the relegation Millwall buffoons now.1
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Well done Brentford. Just shows what can be done with a group of players that are well coached. McCormack looked a different player from the one that was lambasted on here. If I were Guy, my resignation would be on KM's desk in the morning. Where do we go from here ... Who knows. We're a shambles and an embarrassment of a club at the moment.2
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...and a very warm welcome to Charlton Life to you.TonyRidley said:ROLAND OUT ROLAND OUT and take the cluless with you. PLEASE SELL THE CLUB TO SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO RUN IT PROPERLY. If I had as much money as Roland Charlton would now be in the Premier League - THAT IS FOR SURE.
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Newton and Ridley.1
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No rocket science needed here. This scenario has been seen probably a 1000 times since the war. And the solution too. When a club starts a season very badly the most effective and simple short term solution is to bring in a new experienced manager.0
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Dross.
Came out fairly lively but with our amateur levels of fitness we couldn't sustain it for more than ten minutes.
How can you make mccormack look like a world beater? He is plod but still managed to look busy against our overweight and unfit players. They really do look like a pub team in terms of fitness against the rest of the Championship.
Shocking that JJ was the most energetic player on the pitch. Played his socks off, well done.
Morgan Fox has the worst right foot I've seen in the modern game. You can't be a professional player if you can't kick or control a ball with your weaker foot. He was absolutely pony today and Solly wasn't much better.
BMIK. Watt showed flashes of brilliance but is no team player.
On today's showing the only player I'd want at championship level is Henderson. Bauer is so slow to track a runner0 -
Brentford showed us today the real postives of attacking Fullbacks and playing with width.
Bar Gudmundsson we have nobody to offer that.
Fox is nowhere near good enough for this level, no pace and crossing sporadic.
Moussa looks better when he comes inside rather than playing wide
Solly has not found any consistency this season.
Cousins was honestly poor in the middle too and Jackson was being put in the middle of the Brentford triangles.
Honestly the only players I feel that can potentially come out of that with any credit are Bauer, Sarr ( Who I thought was solid today) and Henderson.
Some serious investment needed at LB, RB, LM and CM in January or I think we are in big trouble.1 -
It doesnt matter who the manager is because the club is rotten at the top10
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Whilst I agree with much of what you say, Henderson shouldn't be here. Yes he is a very good keeper, when he is fit, but he spends too much time out. We need a number 1 that spends more time in the goal than on the physio table.calydon_road said:Dross.
Came out fairly lively but with our amateur levels of fitness we couldn't sustain it for more than ten minutes.
How can you make mccormack look like a world beater? He is plod but still managed to look busy against our overweight and unfit players. They really do look like a pub team in terms of fitness against the rest of the Championship.
Shocking that JJ was the most energetic player on the pitch. Played his socks off, well done.
Morgan Fox has the worst right foot I've seen in the modern game. You can't be a professional player if you can't kick or control a ball with your weaker foot. He was absolutely pony today and Solly wasn't much better.
BMIK. Watt showed flashes of brilliance but is no team player.
On today's showing the only player I'd want at championship level is Henderson. Bauer is so slow to track a runner0 -
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurgghh jesus can't be bothered with this anymore0
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Maybe he has learned from Carsley - a similar kind of player. I would imagine the Brentford squad listen to a man with 500+ appearances & 40 games for Ireland. While GL can maybe provide some hard won insights from his 6 games for The Dog & Duck in Tel Aviv.calydon_road said:Dross.
Came out fairly lively but with our amateur levels of fitness we couldn't sustain it for more than ten minutes.
How can you make mccormack look like a world beater? He is plod but still managed to look busy against our overweight and unfit players. They really do look like a pub team in terms of fitness against the rest of the Championship.
Shocking that JJ was the most energetic player on the pitch. Played his socks off, well done.
Morgan Fox has the worst right foot I've seen in the modern game. You can't be a professional player if you can't kick or control a ball with your weaker foot. He was absolutely pony today and Solly wasn't much better.
BMIK. Watt showed flashes of brilliance but is no team player.
On today's showing the only player I'd want at championship level is Henderson. Bauer is so slow to track a runner7 -
Absolute rubbish even if you ignore the wider club issues. Luzon now looks completely tactically inept. Clear after 20 mins what Brentford where doing and how they set up, as with all the other games since we started losing. But no, rigid 442 is the order of the day.
Cant see anyway Luzon stays in charge.0 - Sponsored links:
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My season ticket has found a new home in the bin, someone give me any reason to take it out0
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good first 15 mins, didn't take our chances,
then BOOM, we implode.
we're getting beat big now, it's not even close,
at the risk of causing upset, Solly and Cousins were poor and have been poor, Fox ditto.
we will be relegated make no bones about it.
Brentford looked so much more comfortable on the ball especially in midfield. they looked like a 'team'.
totally fed up.
said before Preston couldn't see us scoring or winning again this season, tempted to have a bet on it now.0 -
PWR
Roland is the owner, he can do what he likes.
Two 3-0 home defeats in a week.
Injuries are not the excuse today.
Brentford were better than us in every department for 80% of that game, maybe more, and as I said pre match Alan Judge (got from Notts County) basically tore our pathetic attempts to compete to shreds.
Luzon says we have the quality, and when it returns it will prevail, well he is wrong.
Luzon, like the previous managers has been given an impossible job, and he probably still thinks he can do it, maybe the regime still think they can do it. The unreality is unreal if you get my drift.
The only card Duchatelet has got to play is sacking Luzon and hoping for new manager bounce, other than that we're relegated.
We're probably relegated whatever happens. We are going to see a lot of players looking after number one this season.
This thread will discuss this move or that event or the other player, but we are out of our depth in every area of this club, with the one saving grace, the one bit of compensation, being the academy set up. However we are now seeing the fruits of our academy being de-skilled, and mis-used week by week by the chite circumstances this ignorant and arrogant regime have created. Cousins and Solly are being contaminated at an accelerating rate by these events, and my advice to those decent Charlton products, who I have a particular fondness for, my advice is to get out of this mess of a club as soon as you can.
Roland is the owner and he can do what he likes, we can only gawp and weep from the sidelines, and yes right now it is that bad.
Please, please will some positive poster construct a story that tells us there is a way out, because I can't see one.10 -
Taxi for Guy1
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Please, please will some positive poster construct a story that tells us there is a way out, because I can't see one.
I've heard they are scrapping the academy and and build a Belgian chocolate factory instead.
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We are a total shambles.0
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Poor ...so poor ...wished I'd stayed home and watched the rugby. Certainly will next week as I have no interest in listening to the Boro game.0
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The problem with not going is it doesnt take the pain away.Pretending that you dont care doesnt take the pain away.The only good thing about not going is you dont get stuck in traffic and dont get caught in the rain.If you are a supporter it will hurt wether you go or not.12
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And that is exactly why Luzon is bloody clueless, everyone could see it apart from the arm waving lunaticFishCostaFortune said:I've said it once, I'll say it again - please stop banging on about players and 'passion'. What the fuck does that even mean anyway?
If you mean running around and putting challenges in, then unfortunately there are instructed to play in a ridged 4-4-2 where we remain narrow and try and get two banks of four behind the ball. We play with no fluidity, it's embarrassing football from a year gone bye. Even Hodgson chucked this style of football.1 -
SM was clapped off, it's the decision to take him off that was booed.Dazzler21 said:No need for personal insults at KM we know she's in RD's pocket.
I'm not sure what we were playing for today.
Sarr and Bauer strangely were our best players yet we lost 3-0.
I thought we looked OK until the goal and then positioning went out the window.
Jackson tried to be everywhere which left gaps.
Makienok's not fit enough to do the chasing down that maybe KAG would have done well at.
The only good thing that can be said is the first two were great finishes and the last a lucky deflection I think?
One thing that was obvious Luzon can't lift the team and no matter who we replace him with they'll have the same issue.
Also why was SM booed off? That was pathetic.1
