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Unfortunately for him, all this helps pay for his Salary.Rizzo said:It's not often I agree with Max but he's spot on when he says this is 99% show and 1% sport.0 -
His salary is paid already, why should this show biz event put any of the drivers at extra risk. He's spot on in this instance. They all signed up to be race drivers not for the focus on the show (with the possible exception of Lewis).2
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I think it's because November is a quiet month in Vegas with lots of empty hotel rooms and hence little money being spent. By holding the GP late at night - not only are they filling rooms (it is sold out) but people will stay at the tables and machines until action on the strip.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Surely that money would've still been there if they'd held it a bit earlier in the year when it was warmer.DaveMehmet said:
MoneyCafcWest said:I know it's been said before - but why run a night race in November!! I've been there for my birthday in November and had some nice sunny days (never that warm) but absolutely freezing once the sun went down. Seems a bizarre decision - September or even October would have been far better.1 -
ForeverAddickted said:
Unfortunately for him, all this helps pay for his Salary.Rizzo said:It's not often I agree with Max but he's spot on when he says this is 99% show and 1% sport.
Still think he retires within 3 years and goes and races GTs1 -
Las Vegas will be paying for a slot on the calendar, some of that money is going to go to the teams who can then pay their drivers bigger Salaries - Imagine if all the money disappeared from Sport... Broadcasting / Sponsorship Deals etc.Hal1x said:His salary is paid already, why should this show biz event put any of the drivers at extra risk. He's spot on in this instance. They all signed up to be race drivers not for the focus on the show (with the possible exception of Lewis).
Wonder how many Sporting Stars would change their tune
If there wasn't the Commercial aspect anymore, if they had to work other jobs as well as doing what they love.
What extra risk are they being put at with it being 99% Show | 1% Sport?0 -
Well, driving over unsecured manhole covers for one!ForeverAddickted said:What extra risk are they being put at with it being 99% Show | 1% Sport?2 -
Well thats happened at a few tracks where elements on the track haven't been secured properly ... Not just at a venue which is 99% Show... 1% SportRizzo said:
Well, driving over unsecured manhole covers for one!ForeverAddickted said:What extra risk are they being put at with it being 99% Show | 1% Sport?0 -
They would have them jumping over Springfield Gorge soon, after being serenaded by Megan Thee Stallion and Kylie. If there is only Commercial aspect there wont be any interest in the sport, and there wont be anything else for the Commercial aspect to piggyback on. The racing has to come first, or its all just froth.ForeverAddickted said:
Las Vegas will be paying for a slot on the calendar, some of that money is going to go to the teams who can then pay their drivers bigger Salaries - Imagine if all the money disappeared from Sport... Broadcasting / Sponsorship Deals etc.Hal1x said:His salary is paid already, why should this show biz event put any of the drivers at extra risk. He's spot on in this instance. They all signed up to be race drivers not for the focus on the show (with the possible exception of Lewis).
Wonder how many Sporting Stars would change their tune
If there wasn't the Commercial aspect anymore, if they had to work other jobs as well as doing what they love.
What extra risk are they being put at with it being 99% Show | 1% Sport?
I am old enough to remember when there wasn't all the huge money sloshing around, when you could start off with a off the shelf Cosworth, sponsorship from Rizla and compete. Drivers wanted to race then, and most would now. There were fields of 30+ cars for each race, (admittedly some of them were shit, and there were appalling renta drivers [Johnny Carwash anyone?]), and packed grandstands. But I cant remember James Hunt having other jobs except his Budgies.
If you really think that having unknown Rappers (and their bodyguards) and Joe Smoe from Cocomo, wandering up a packed bling filled grid is beneficial to motor racing fair enough, but I, for one am not convinced.5 -
So, its probably nice and handy that all these punters, without any of that distracting track action to watch, have some spare time on their hands and Casinos to fill.CafcWest said:
I think it's because November is a quiet month in Vegas with lots of empty hotel rooms and hence little money being spent. By holding the GP late at night - not only are they filling rooms (it is sold out) but people will stay at the tables and machines until action on the strip.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Surely that money would've still been there if they'd held it a bit earlier in the year when it was warmer.DaveMehmet said:
MoneyCafcWest said:I know it's been said before - but why run a night race in November!! I've been there for my birthday in November and had some nice sunny days (never that warm) but absolutely freezing once the sun went down. Seems a bizarre decision - September or even October would have been far better.0 -
10:15 UK Time start for FP2 in front of no one because they've closed the fan zones
This is turning into a right royal fuck up1 - Sponsored links:
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I am probably in the minority, but I'd quite like them not to be able to sort out the problem and the race is abandoned, with the Las Vegas race cancelled thereafter, and Liberty having to refund the exorbitantly expensive tickets.
Who is this race for in the end? Not the fans shelling out thousands to watch a race at 2am local time.
Not the drivers having to race at that time of night either, on an incredibly fast circuit with virtually no grip and hardly any run off.
It's all for Liberty, and I hope a drain cover blows up in their collective faces6 -
Thanks for putting words in my mouth saying that I think having unknown rappers, and nobody Celebrities is beneficial to Motor Racing - Not sure where I say anything like that, but you come out with whatever you want to imagine.Hal1x said:
They would have them jumping over Springfield Gorge soon, after being serenaded by Megan Thee Stallion and Kylie. If there is only Commercial aspect there wont be any interest in the sport, and there wont be anything else for the Commercial aspect to piggyback on. The racing has to come first, or its all just froth.ForeverAddickted said:
Las Vegas will be paying for a slot on the calendar, some of that money is going to go to the teams who can then pay their drivers bigger Salaries - Imagine if all the money disappeared from Sport... Broadcasting / Sponsorship Deals etc.Hal1x said:His salary is paid already, why should this show biz event put any of the drivers at extra risk. He's spot on in this instance. They all signed up to be race drivers not for the focus on the show (with the possible exception of Lewis).
Wonder how many Sporting Stars would change their tune
If there wasn't the Commercial aspect anymore, if they had to work other jobs as well as doing what they love.
What extra risk are they being put at with it being 99% Show | 1% Sport?
I am old enough to remember when there wasn't all the huge money sloshing around, when you could start off with a off the shelf Cosworth, sponsorship from Rizla and compete. Drivers wanted to race then, and most would now. There were fields of 30+ cars for each race, (admittedly some of them were shit, and there were appalling renta drivers [Johnny Carwash anyone?]), and packed grandstands. But I cant remember James Hunt having other jobs except his Budgies.
If you really think that having unknown Rappers (and their bodyguards) and Joe Smoe from Cocomo, wandering up a packed bling filled grid is beneficial to motor racing fair enough, but I, for one am not convinced.
I'm talking about all the Commercial shit that went on before the business part of the weekend started, you know when Max actually said that its been 99% show, and 1% Sport - There is even crap showing Max and Checo over Las Vegas in separate Helicopters... Net by 2030 right?
Regarding Las Vegas not being ready because of manhole covers - Yes this is embarrassing for the location, and the location - But lets not pretend its not happened before @ Baku, and seem to recall a similar incident at the Portuguese GP a few years ago.
No reason why we cant go back to those days you mention, is there? - Am sure the Drivers will be happy to lose out on the Salaries they're currently earning, if we take away all the Circuses that are Las Vegas etc... Don't you agree?0 -
10:30am here in the UK nowMarcusH26 said:10:15 UK Time start for FP2 in front of no one because they've closed the fan zones
This is turning into a right royal fuck up1 -
Commentators sound low energy today, not surprised as its 3am
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Sainz given 10 place grid penalty for exceeding engine quota after having to replace it after the damage from the manhole. Fucking farce.6
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If only they had the balls to stand up and say fuck that, and not compete this weekend. However with the close battle between them and Mercedes they won'tDaveMehmet said:Sainz given 10 place grid penalty for exceeding engine quota after having to replace it after the damage from the manhole. Fucking farce.6 -
You mean they dont pump Oxygen into the commentary box, like they do with the Casinos?BigRedEvil said:Commentators sound low energy today, not surprised as its 3am0 -
If only there were other things to do in Vegas to keep them occupied until 2am......sam3110 said:I am probably in the minority, but I'd quite like them not to be able to sort out the problem and the race is abandoned, with the Las Vegas race cancelled thereafter, and Liberty having to refund the exorbitantly expensive tickets.
Who is this race for in the end? Not the fans shelling out thousands to watch a race at 2am local time.
Not the drivers having to race at that time of night either, on an incredibly fast circuit with virtually no grip and hardly any run off.
It's all for Liberty, and I hope a drain cover blows up in their collective faces
I get your point of course (especially for the drivers) but i doubt many of the people going to watch care too much about the timing.0 -
It will cost them a pretty penny to refund all those who missed the first two practise sessions.0
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If I was Alpine or Ferrari I’d be claiming the costs back for the damage caused to their cars as well.Hal1x said:It will cost them a pretty penny to refund all those who missed the first two practise sessions.0 - Sponsored links:
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Some fans hung around just in case the did do a second practice session. They were kicked out of the stands at 1:30am, before the second session started, for “operational reasons”. That is pretty piss poor, and just shows how poorly the paying customer gets treated. As most of them had a 3 day pass, it’s unlikely that they’ll get any refund.0
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Always nice to see Verstappen thinking he's a Steward... Idiot!!
Will no doubt get away with it as per usual0 -
Strange decision by RB to keep Perez in the pits to save tyres. Probably the 1st bad call they’ve made all season though.1
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Great to see both Williams in Q3 - Sargeant has done really well since Austin. Think they can get P7 in the Championship this weekend0
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This track is so much better than Miami0
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A bit skinny in places though, I can see the field being really spread out quite quickly.ForeverAddickted said:This track is so much better than Miami
Miami is awful though, literally just built in car parks, at least most of this follows real roads1 -
Honestly found Qualy a lot more entertaining than I initially expected. Track is better than Miami or Jeddah for that matter but I do wonder how much overtaking we'll get or if we could get another race where DRS is too powerful1
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Williams being where they are could prove the issue to the DRSMarcusH26 said:Honestly found Qualy a lot more entertaining than I initially expected. Track is better than Miami or Jeddah for that matter but I do wonder how much overtaking we'll get or if we could get another race where DRS is too powerful
Would say its on a par with Jeddah as a track (forgetting the locations) - Its a shame that one is where it is, as its one I look forward to0 -
Alarm set for 5:45am, I must be bonkers. If Verstappen is leading within 10 laps I'll be going back to bed!4
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This is too early :-(1
