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Target 20,000

Can we all at least get on board with this and that's the Target 20,000 plans formally announced by the club today are some of the most ridiculous we've seen so far from the current ownership?

You are not going to get 20,000 in the door at the Valley for 23 games a season outside of the EPL, and Football for a Fiver and not even sure they'd come back now either, didn't last two years and we were marginally better then. It's that simple, it's insulting given that currently the club is abusing the supporters who do attend both verbally and through it's actions but it now seems to think it's an event that could attract 8,500 plus from the middle of nowhere. We're lucky if we clear 13,000 a week and that's with good away support so this idea is nonsense. We are bottom end of the championship, we have just bought into the modern rip-off policy of 'categorised pricing' and we're in the relegation zone of the championship with no true star talent. We are also situated in London with two Premier League Clubs both within affordable and very good travel distance. These are simple facts that just goes to show how out of depth and inexperienced this owner and his lapdog are.

The student idea is woeful too. I went to Greenwich, it's a vastly multicultural university with over 60% of it's student intake being from the surrounding areas, London or the home counties. They are going to take discounted tickets for fun and not come back, there is a not a fan-base to build on there and that shows how little Meire knows about the local community too.

This whole idea should show all doubters, if they really think about it, exactly the kind of poor decision and line of thinking the ownership currently takes.

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    100% this. Another gimmick, about as likely to succeed as if we planned to seat all 20,000 on the sofa. The basis to achieve it is a successfull football team, and you don't get that the way the current administration behave.
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    I think we'd struggle to get actually 20k of home fans in the ground even if 10k of tickets were given away free every week outside of the Prem
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    So when you say 'get on board' are saying they really need our help so let's all get stuck in and see what we can do?
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    Blimey read this cos I thought it was going to be a sensible positive thread! Wrong just another excuse for an anti owner rant. Shame!
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    Thanks Northdevonisred
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    Can we all at least get on board with this and that's the Target 20,000 plans formally announced by the club today are some of the most ridiculous we've seen so far from the current ownership?

    You are not going to get 20,000 in the door at the Valley for 23 games a season outside of the EPL, and Football for a Fiver and not even sure they'd come back now either, didn't last two years and we were marginally better then. It's that simple, it's insulting given that currently the club is abusing the supporters who do attend both verbally and through it's actions but it now seems to think it's an event that could attract 8,500 plus from the middle of nowhere. We're lucky if we clear 13,000 a week and that's with good away support so this idea is nonsense. We are bottom end of the championship, we have just bought into the modern rip-off policy of 'categorised pricing' and we're in the relegation zone of the championship with no true star talent. We are also situated in London with two Premier League Clubs both within affordable and very good travel distance. These are simple facts that just goes to show how out of depth and inexperienced this owner and his lapdog are.

    The student idea is woeful too. I went to Greenwich, it's a vastly multicultural university with over 60% of it's student intake being from the surrounding areas, London or the home counties. They are going to take discounted tickets for fun and not come back, there is a not a fan-base to build on there and that shows how little Meire knows about the local community too.

    This whole idea should show all doubters, if they really think about it, exactly the kind of poor decision and line of thinking the ownership currently takes.


    So you would prefer a more realistic thing like target 15,000? if the club had said that I can bet your response would be along the lines of "lacking ambition again", "what are they going to do with the other 45% of the ground then?"

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    where have they been formally announced? can't see anything on the OS.
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    Redrobo said:

    So when you say 'get on board' are saying they really need our help so let's all get stuck in and see what we can do?

    No I think he's asking people to get on board with the fact it's a ridiculous idea at this point in time.
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    Redrobo said:

    So when you say 'get on board' are saying they really need our help so let's all get stuck in and see what we can do?

    No I think he's asking people to get on board with the fact it's a ridiculous idea at this point in time.
    Oh. Weĺl the club have I think already started inviting students and it would seem a bit stupid to stop trying to get more supporters to attend.
    When would be a good time to start? When WHU are in their new ground? I did not go to University, but I am struggling to understand why doing bugger all but moan about what somebody else is doing to make this a bigger and better club helps in anyway.
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    Student plans, Kids for a Quid, free entry if you bring your own sofa ... all have merits if part of a long-term strategy. But can't help but feel they are not and are just someone having an idea at a Friday brainstorming and them all jumping, Apprentice style, on the bandwagon. As for £20K attendances, that is achievable. But the problem is it needs good quality football from a side pushing for promotion (to the Premier League and not back into the Championship in 2016-17) and that is a million miles away under this ownership
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    edited November 2015

    Can we all at least get on board with this and that's the Target 20,000 plans formally announced by the club today are some of the most ridiculous we've seen so far from the current ownership?

    You are not going to get 20,000 in the door at the Valley for 23 games a season outside of the EPL, and Football for a Fiver and not even sure they'd come back now either, didn't last two years and we were marginally better then. It's that simple, it's insulting given that currently the club is abusing the supporters who do attend both verbally and through it's actions but it now seems to think it's an event that could attract 8,500 plus from the middle of nowhere. We're lucky if we clear 13,000 a week and that's with good away support so this idea is nonsense. We are bottom end of the championship, we have just bought into the modern rip-off policy of 'categorised pricing' and we're in the relegation zone of the championship with no true star talent. We are also situated in London with two Premier League Clubs both within affordable and very good travel distance. These are simple facts that just goes to show how out of depth and inexperienced this owner and his lapdog are.

    The student idea is woeful too. I went to Greenwich, it's a vastly multicultural university with over 60% of it's student intake being from the surrounding areas, London or the home counties. They are going to take discounted tickets for fun and not come back, there is a not a fan-base to build on there and that shows how little Meire knows about the local community too.

    This whole idea should show all doubters, if they really think about it, exactly the kind of poor decision and line of thinking the ownership currently takes.

    Maybe you should send your feedback (over about 10 tweets) to KM on Twitter. Her personal account is @KatrienMCafc on there
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    We need to be thinking about another team who will be in a new stadium next year, 20 minutes away, playing Prem football, with subsidised ticket prices.

    There are hundreds of homes currently being built on the Peninsular area

    If a casual football fan lived near (say) the O2 - why would he/she go to Charlton v Rotherham for £20 when you could go to West Ham v Leicester for similar money / travel time ?

    The WHU move is the 2nd biggest threat to the future shape of CAFC in 2020 and beyond.

    The biggest threat is our current owner.

    Which is why i think the Categorisation for gold and silver games we currently have in place needs to be looked at.

    It's going to be interesting to see what next season's take up for Season ticket renewal is.

    Maybe the club could do something innovative for loyal supporters who pay on the day, maybe introduce a membership card, waiving increased charges for gold and silver games wouldn't be such a bad idea. Worth a try if the uptake on renewal is disappointing.

    For KM It's all about sales.
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    mogodon said:

    Student plans, Kids for a Quid, free entry if you bring your own sofa ... all have merits if part of a long-term strategy. But can't help but feel they are not and are just someone having an idea at a Friday brainstorming and them all jumping, Apprentice style, on the bandwagon. As for £20K attendances, that is achievable. But the problem is it needs good quality football from a side pushing for promotion (to the Premier League and not back into the Championship in 2016-17) and that is a million miles away under this ownership

    But KM stated she isn't worried about the West Ham threat to Charlton supporters....

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    mogodon said:

    Student plans, Kids for a Quid, free entry if you bring your own sofa ... all have merits if part of a long-term strategy. But can't help but feel they are not and are just someone having an idea at a Friday brainstorming and them all jumping, Apprentice style, on the bandwagon. As for £20K attendances, that is achievable. But the problem is it needs good quality football from a side pushing for promotion (to the Premier League and not back into the Championship in 2016-17) and that is a million miles away under this ownership

    But KM stated she isn't worried about the West Ham threat to Charlton supporters....

    Why should we worry, we'll have players from the academy in our team !
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    edited November 2015

    We need to be thinking about another team who will be in a new stadium next year, 20 minutes away, playing Prem football, with subsidised ticket prices.

    There are hundreds of homes currently being built on the Peninsular area

    If a casual football fan lived near (say) the O2 - why would he/she go to Charlton v Rotherham for £20 when you could go to West Ham v Leicester for similar money / travel time ?

    The WHU move is the 2nd biggest threat to the future shape of CAFC in 2020 and beyond.

    The biggest threat is our current owner.

    Correct.

    RD & co's current ignorance towards our current fanbase has lost a huge majority of support - they are now going to heavily struggle to attract new support and this will not help one bit. Premier League football against some quality teams, brand new stadium.. or the old Valley against MK Dons, or perhaps soon to be worse.

    They really have made a complete pigs ear of this ownership malarky, they had the grounds to work with - then a few bad sales, ignorance in communication and upright naivety in their plan of action has stuck the nails in the coffin for fans.

    Even I'd be more tempted to go watch WHU v say Leicester than I would a Charlton match if the prices are similar, and that's saying something..

    They should scrap this idea and start with operation 10k, because they're going to struggle with that big time, let alone 20k (lol). They were on the increase and now they're on the decrease and that won't change drastically without ownership changes, I know that for sure.
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