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  • Rob62
    Rob62 Posts: 1,200
    LargeAddick said:

    Granpa said:

    and the fact that we apparently interviewed Dennis Wise last week

    oh my God, no. If he was then at least they realise we need someone else but there are far, far, far better candidates out there than Dennis.

    I very much doubt that is true. No way he'd accept a manager's contract on less than £50k a year.
  • mistrollingin
    mistrollingin Posts: 3,868
    Rob62 said:

    LargeAddick said:

    Granpa said:

    and the fact that we apparently interviewed Dennis Wise last week

    oh my God, no. If he was then at least they realise we need someone else but there are far, far, far better candidates out there than Dennis.

    I very much doubt that is true. No way he'd accept a manager's contract on less than £50k a year.
    Or a 5 month contract.
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  • IA
    IA Posts: 6,103
    edited December 2015
    colin1961 said:

    masicat said:

    Did anyone disagree with the team picked Saturday or the substitutions.? Personally I would have taken Mak off at halftime with Fox. Apart from that it's worth pointing out that the players were to blame and not the manager ( on this occasion ). Watt is a bad egg and needs to grow up, so sending him out is also a good thing IMO.

    Think if you looked at his first three fixtures on present form who would have said two wins out of three .....
    So at the moment he on the plus side of he can any result at Brighton and he will get the job till end of the season ...people are forgetting that the players like him , Jackson said some very good things about him from his first visit to this time so sometimes you have to take the players view more then results !!!
    Saturday is only mistake was not putting Ba on for Jackson and leaving everyone else alone ... as we had started quite well
    Not many, but then he didn't get two wins out of three. He got one win and two defeats out of his first three matches (MK Dons, Middlesbrough, Sheffield Wednesday)
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    @colin1961, we played well for 10 minutes, JJ (who you dislike and think is over the hill and crap) then went off and we fell to bits. Fraeye made more than 1 mistake and we paid for it...big time.....sorry mate its time he went, just because the players like him doesn't make him a good manager, I like most of my direct reports, but if they cant do the job well enough I have to get rid, or I will be the one chopped!!
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,887
    Missed It said:

    .

    LargeAddick said:

    Granpa said:

    and the fact that we apparently interviewed Dennis Wise last week

    oh my God, no. If he was then at least they realise we need someone else but there are far, far, far better candidates out there than Dennis.

    Dennis Wise??!! Final, undeniable proof that they really have no clue what they're doing!!
    I'm sure KM will be of the opinion that it was a very wise decision :wink:
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    RedChaser said:

    Missed It said:

    .

    LargeAddick said:

    Granpa said:

    and the fact that we apparently interviewed Dennis Wise last week

    oh my God, no. If he was then at least they realise we need someone else but there are far, far, far better candidates out there than Dennis.

    Dennis Wise??!! Final, undeniable proof that they really have no clue what they're doing!!
    I'm sure KM will be of the opinion that it was a very wise decision :wink:
    and he was the best of all the other 52 candidates who we interviewed in 48 hours after the Ipswich defeat!!!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,903
    cabbles said:

    killerandflash said:

    It's a strange one.

    If the results had been good enough since he was appointed, then he would have got the job. I suspect a win against Ipswich might have been enough
    If the results had been terrible, then he would probably have not got the job, as not even RD wouldn't appoint someone if he lost his first 4 or 5 matches and we were terrible.

    Instead, we've gone LLWWL, so we're kind of waiting for the inevitable...

    I reckon that wouldn't stop RD. He'd probably say something like (through KM of course)

    'KF took over the team at a very tumultuous time. He was unable to arrest the slide that had already set in under GL. Although results have not improved, we sense a degree of improved confidence amongst the squad. This, coupled with the high number of targets we have identified as potential signings in the January transfer window, has led the board to believe KF is the right man to take us forward. As a result we have given him a contract until the end of the 16/17 season

    Now shove your 2% leaflets up your backsides and enjoy the next installment.'
    RD may have some strange views but he isn't stupid.

    He won't spend a fortune on a large squad to get us into the top 2, but relegation isn't on his agenda either. Last spring we were allowed to bring in Diarra, Johnson and Eagles, all experienced non network signings, as clearly he was persuaded that the team wasn't strong enough. None of those signings fits his buy young players to sell for a profit, agenda.

    Similarly, if after KF had taken over we'd played like we did at MK Dons (which was dreadful) for several more matches and were stranded at the bottom as a result, he would look elsewhere for a head coach.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,021
    LargeAddick said:

    Granpa said:

    and the fact that we apparently interviewed Dennis Wise last week

    oh my God, no. If he was then at least they realise we need someone else but there are far, far, far better candidates out there than Dennis.

    Please no
  • thewolfboy
    thewolfboy Posts: 2,929
    My disillusion runneth over...

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  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,195
    colin1961 said:

    masicat said:

    Did anyone disagree with the team picked Saturday or the substitutions.? Personally I would have taken Mak off at halftime with Fox. Apart from that it's worth pointing out that the players were to blame and not the manager ( on this occasion ). Watt is a bad egg and needs to grow up, so sending him out is also a good thing IMO.

    Think if you looked at his first three fixtures on present form who would have said two wins out of three .....
    So at the moment he on the plus side of he can any result at Brighton and he will get the job till end of the season ...people are forgetting that the players like him , Jackson said some very good things about him from his first visit to this time so sometimes you have to take the players view more then results !!!
    Saturday is only mistake was not putting Ba on for Jackson and leaving everyone else alone ... as we had started quite well
    And if you only take the West Ham match we were actually unbeaten under Alan Pardew..
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Missed It said:

    .

    LargeAddick said:

    Granpa said:

    and the fact that we apparently interviewed Dennis Wise last week

    oh my God, no. If he was then at least they realise we need someone else but there are far, far, far better candidates out there than Dennis.

    Dennis Wise??!! Final, undeniable proof that they really have no clue what they're doing!!
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Dennis Wise?
    Maybe the most powerful flies around our dunghill are agents!
    Dennis Wise dear god, I would probably rather get relegated with Fraeye.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,021
    Garrymanilow said:

    It would be a good bit of trolling though. 'You want a British manager do you? Well fine, have Dennis Wise then you pricks!'

    Thinking about it, it would never happen ... Wise's ego is far too big to allow him to be dictated to by KM, let alone RD.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,656
    Must be one of the longest interview processes in the history of mankind.
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,887
    All head coaches are effectively interim until the next injury crisis and bad run under Duchatelet.
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,967
    Dennis Wise? Was he put forward by Tony Jimenez???? You would definitely see my season ticket going in the bin if he was signed.
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,887
    edited December 2015
    A Wise appointment would definitely not be wise. Also final proof of Meire and Duchatelets total cluelessness and confirmation that Duchatelet is not that bothered with the survival of the club as a Championship entity.

    The only thing that about a Dennis Wise appointment is that no head coach lasts more than 6 playing season months and his ass would get fired soon enough. That is the only light at the end of that dismal tunnel.

    It does feel sometimes that Duchatelet does things to deliberate wind up the support. A Wise appointment could still be the final breaking point for many Charlton supporters.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,887
    edited December 2015
    Granpa is not the sort of poster to wind people up and IIRC his grandson is a good friend with a player still on the club's books so the plot thickens :open_mouth:

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  • 3G
    3G Posts: 734
    cabbles said:

    killerandflash said:

    It's a strange one.

    If the results had been good enough since he was appointed, then he would have got the job. I suspect a win against Ipswich might have been enough
    If the results had been terrible, then he would probably have not got the job, as not even RD wouldn't appoint someone if he lost his first 4 or 5 matches and we were terrible.

    Instead, we've gone LLWWL, so we're kind of waiting for the inevitable...

    I reckon that wouldn't stop RD. He'd probably say something like (through KM of course)

    'KF took over the team at a very tumultuous time. He was unable to arrest the slide that had already set in under GL. Although results have not improved, we sense a degree of improved confidence amongst the squad. This, coupled with the high number of targets we have identified as potential signings in the January transfer window, has led the board to believe KF is the right man to take us forward. As a result we have given him a contract until the end of the 16/17 season

    Now shove your 2% leaflets up your backsides and enjoy the next installment.'
    Alongside the like and lol buttons, can CL invent a FFS button to accompany?
  • 3G
    3G Posts: 734
    maddferrett said:

    cabbles said:

    killerandflash said:

    It's a strange one.

    If the results had been good enough since he was appointed, then he would have got the job. I suspect a win against Ipswich might have been enough
    If the results had been terrible, then he would probably have not got the job, as not even RD wouldn't appoint someone if he lost his first 4 or 5 matches and we were terrible.

    Instead, we've gone LLWWL, so we're kind of waiting for the inevitable...

    I reckon that wouldn't stop RD. He'd probably say something like (through KM of course)

    'KF took over the team at a very tumultuous time. He was unable to arrest the slide that had already set in under GL. Although results have not improved, we sense a degree of improved confidence amongst the squad. This, coupled with the high number of targets we have identified as potential signings in the January transfer window, has led the board to believe KF is the right man to take us forward. As a result we have given him a contract until the end of the 16/17 season

    Now shove your 2% leaflets up your backsides and enjoy the next installment.'
    Alongside the like and lol buttons, can CL invent a FFS button to accompany?
    Would be used for anything linked to Dennis Weiss as well!
  • AidenTheAddick
    AidenTheAddick Posts: 1,061
    Mendonca In Asdas said:

    Must be one of the longest interview processes in the history of mankind.

    We've already got the record for the shortest, might as well get this one too.
  • 3blokes
    3blokes Posts: 4,610
    Only at Charlton at the moment -
    A manager who looks like a weathered Clark Kent who can't even be given the title of Head Coach without that fake and absurd caveat, the possible consideration of toxic garden gnome Dennis Wise as his replacement, a sofa that should be seen a serious contender against this calibre of candidate, and everything good about this club slowly going to s***.
    It's like Charlton Athletic has become some sort of nightmare sitcom gleefully being written by Danny Baker. It ain't half crap mum.
  • tricky
    tricky Posts: 1,291
    Dennis Wise's red and white army!!












    *flag*
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,021
    tricky said:

    Dennis Wise's red and white army!!











    *flag*

    Nooooooo
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,632
    Dennis Wise !!!!!!!!!!!

    Hard to fathom that connection out.
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,128
    edited December 2015
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Dennis Wise !!!!!!!!!!!

    Hard to fathom that connection out.

    Eventually a turd drops into the toilet.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,632
    This ?
  • Lazy_eye_metaphor
    Lazy_eye_metaphor Posts: 1,960
    Wise? I'd rather have Morecambe.

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