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Arsenal watching Lookman

Why don't these teams just let these kids enjoy playing and learning the game ....again we will have a young man who head will be turned or an agent who sees a pay day
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  • Undisclosed fee. Gone in January, Pinocchio just won't be able to help herself.
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,833
    Lots of clubs look at lots of players, all the time. Means nothing. Now if they come in with a £5m offer, do we accept or turn it down?
  • Pedro45 said:

    Lots of clubs look at lots of players, all the time. Means nothing. Now if they come in with a £5m offer, do we accept or turn it down?

    I think you meant to say does Roland accept it or not. And we all know the answer to that if £5m was the offer.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,663
    edited December 2015
    Pedro45 said:

    Lots of clubs look at lots of players, all the time. Means nothing. Now if they come in with a £1m offer, do we accept or turn it down?

    Corrected for you and the answer is accept.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Karel Fraeye said in his press day yesterday a couple of decent things about Lookman. he said that lets make him a good Championship player first before we say he will be a good Premiership player. He also said we ought not to 'burn him'.
    In yesterdays press day interview Fraeye was back to the chirpy bloke, rather than the battered bloke post Ipswich. Fraeye maintained that we were harshly treated by the magnitude of the Ipswich result, which worried me that he was looking a little bit too hard for excuses, but he admitted the first goal should have been cleared before the foul on Solly.
    Fraeye continues to talk quite a convincing game, but after a succession of managers we are left, still, with only being able to properly judge them on results. If Fraeye thinks it is because we are under resourced player wise, then he must simply tell Roland that Lookman is not for sale at all.
    It would do his standing a lot of good if he told Roland and also us that losing Lookman would be another wrong move.
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,112
    edited December 2015
    It's pretty obvious that there's a lot of potential there. He'll be moved on in January. I hope he has a good career at a proper club.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,212
    edited December 2015
    Pedro45 said:

    Lots of clubs look at lots of players, all the time. Means nothing. Now if they come in with a tribunal fee at the end of the season, do we spend it on a house DJ or shiny new seats?

    There we go
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,422

    It's pretty obvious that there's a lot of potential there. He'll be moved on in April. I hope he has a good career at a proper club.

    I agree with that. We're a joke right now. Still I support the team 100% and though i'd be glad to see any of them go, it is what it is. They're better off elsewhere.

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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,378
    I'm not surprised .. he's a star already .. a superstar in the making .. IF .. he can maintain progress and a level head .. it's inevitable that all super talented players will end up at a major club sooner or later
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,279
    edited December 2015
    LenGlover said:

    Pedro45 said:

    Lots of clubs look at lots of players, all the time. Means nothing. Now if they come in with a £1m offer, do we accept or turn it down?

    Now if they come in with a £1m offer, do we accept or turn it down? Corrected for you and the answer is accept.
    + add ons, say if he scores a hatrick in the world cup final we get an extra 100k
  • Two words:

    'Sales Target'

    That being said, to infer we are not a proper club is a bit extreme. I don't agree with a lot of things in how we are run currently but we are still a proper club.

    Lookman doesn't 'deserve better than us'. We gave him his first chance of pro football, I would imagine he is delighted and very pro Charlton. Hope he stays a couple of years.
  • Shiny seats will not stay shiny for long as there will be no bums on them to polish them!.
  • Lets not forget that, as good as he has looked at times, he hasn't scored a senior goal yet.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,422
    edited December 2015
    Every opportuntiy he has had, he has seemed to create himself. With some proper service, we will see goals.
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,271
    I clearly remember Richard Murray telling us when the RD circus rolled into town that the days when we had to sell our young stars to keep afloat were over. I used to like RD. Now it seems our entire raison d'etre is to fatten up youngsters to sell on for a quick buck, and our CEO is so dimwitted that our players are pointlessly cheap. So we have to call every deal 'undisclosed'. Sounds like we are ashamed of our prices, and after the Gomez sale, it's not a surprise.
    Thanks Richard.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,430
    Watching doesn't mean a great deal. Wasn't long ago Arsenal were said to be watching Cousins.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-are-watching-jordan-cousins-but-he-s-only-focused-on-charlton-survival-9216342.html

    The year before there was a lot of excitement around Harriott.

    http://www.forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/54203/callum-harriott/p1

    Don't think we need to worry about Lookman this early. As an attacking player he needs to show he's got goals/assists in him and that won't come without a run of games.
  • I clearly remember Richard Murray telling us when the RD circus rolled into town that the days when we had to sell our young stars to keep afloat were over. I used to like RD. Now it seems our entire raison d'etre is to fatten up youngsters to sell on for a quick buck, and our CEO is so dimwitted that our players are pointlessly cheap. So we have to call every deal 'undisclosed'. Sounds like we are ashamed of our prices, and after the Gomez sale, it's not a surprise.
    Thanks Richard.

    All our acquisitions are undisclosed as well

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,430

    I clearly remember Richard Murray telling us when the RD circus rolled into town that the days when we had to sell our young stars to keep afloat were over. I used to like RD. Now it seems our entire raison d'etre is to fatten up youngsters to sell on for a quick buck, and our CEO is so dimwitted that our players are pointlessly cheap. So we have to call every deal 'undisclosed'. Sounds like we are ashamed of our prices, and after the Gomez sale, it's not a surprise.
    Thanks Richard.

    All our acquisitions are undisclosed as well
    Just as they were under Slater and Jimenez.

  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,060
    Arsenal are probably watching 1,000 players right now (literally) I wouldn't panic yet.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,259
    LenGlover said:

    Pedro45 said:

    Lots of clubs look at lots of players, all the time. Means nothing. Now if they come in with a £1m offer £250k upfront, Joel Campbell on loan until 5pm today and a friendly against an Arsenal trailist XI in July, do we accept or turn it down?

    Corrected for you and the answer is accept.
    Fixed it again Len
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  • I just read these two articles back to back and found it really funny that the first few paragraphs of both pieces are almost identical. So.... yeah, probably nothing much to worry about.
    http://www.espnfc.com/blog/transfer-talk/79/post/2634285/man-united-tracking-charlton-morgan-fox-as-shaw-replacement
    http://metro.co.uk/2015/12/04/arsenal-chasing-young-charlton-striker-ademola-lookman-after-successful-scouting-mission-5543413/

    Arsenal, if anything, need an experienced central midfielder, with their crippling injury list. Expect a £10m offer for Jackson in January :smiley:
  • colin1961 said:

    People are saying the club will sell , RD wants the cash that's just total bollocks the fact is a club like ours at times have to sell a player to balance the books ... Next season you will be having teams coming down with 90 mill pounds in the their pockets due to new TV and parachute deals how can a club like our compete with that ??
    Look at Sky money last week that was Ipswich 11th appearance on TV since they last was on against us , compete that with how many times we have been 2 ?? again we are losing out money wise
    All this makes it impossible for clubs like Charlton to turn down offers for anyone

    It does. Why not try the alrnative route though. Get an experienced manager and support him over three or four seasons in the transfer market giving the club at least a chance of getting its nose into the Premier League trough instead of the current half baked plan.

  • colin1961 said:

    People are saying the club will sell , RD wants the cash that's just total bollocks the fact is a club like ours at times have to sell a player to balance the books ... Next season you will be having teams coming down with 90 mill pounds in the their pockets due to new TV and parachute deals how can a club like our compete with that ??
    Look at Sky money last week that was Ipswich 11th appearance on TV since they last was on against us , compete that with how many times we have been 2 ?? again we are losing out money wise
    All this makes it impossible for clubs like Charlton to turn down offers for anyone

    Or you grow a pair of bollocks and decide to be more than a mere feeder team for bigger clubs, keep hold of your up and coming stars for as long as possible, get in a good manager who isnt surprised at the quality of the championship to build a team around poyet, gomez, cousins and lookman with proven quality players beyond a completely deflated network and some random data analysis bods.

    Penny rich pound stupid the current way. Gutless philosophy to say we have to sell all our youth so cheaply, cheaply in every sense.
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  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,663
    edited December 2015
    colin1961 said:

    colin1961 said:

    People are saying the club will sell , RD wants the cash that's just total bollocks the fact is a club like ours at times have to sell a player to balance the books ... Next season you will be having teams coming down with 90 mill pounds in the their pockets due to new TV and parachute deals how can a club like our compete with that ??
    Look at Sky money last week that was Ipswich 11th appearance on TV since they last was on against us , compete that with how many times we have been 2 ?? again we are losing out money wise
    All this makes it impossible for clubs like Charlton to turn down offers for anyone

    Or you grow a pair of bollocks and decide to be more than a mere feeder team for bigger clubs, keep hold of your up and coming stars for as long as possible, get in a good manager who isnt surprised at the quality of the championship to build a team around poyet, gomez, cousins and lookman with proven quality players beyond a completely deflated network and some random data analysis bods.

    Penny rich pound stupid the current way. Gutless philosophy to say we have to sell all our youth so cheaply, cheaply in every sense.
    Your missing a big point the club were helpless in keeping Poyet and Gomez and it does not matter if Lookman signs a five year deal any club with excessive amount of money to spend and to offer him and his family money beyond their dreams he will go , no matter what Charlton .
    This is not new we have sold players to survive for years why back to players like Mike Bailey, Paul Walsh , Lee Bowyer so it's not the owners of managers fault when big clubs tempt them away
    It is hard to keep players yes.

    However it is not hard, given the money swilling around in the premiership, to get a fair price for those players if the will is there and the negotiator is half competent.

    Raheem Sterling was sold for £49m Joe Gomez £3.5m, a derisory fee which explains Meire's desperation to suppress it or, to use her preferred phrase, not disclose it.

    I accept attacking players are valued more highly than defenders but not £45.5m more!

    We were robbed and will be again. To be fair Meire is not alone historically (although that will not interest her of course) arguably Len Glover and Darren Bent are the only full value transfer fees we have received in my 52 years of supporting the Club. Some might say Parker but more than 10 years on he has still not been properly replaced which makes that £10m look cheap.

    Nevertheless I cannot recall an example of selling a player at such a marked discount as we did Gomez.