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Moaning about finishing mid-table in the Prem every season.....

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  • Curbs leaving was the right decision... The board's inept recruitment was the big problem.

    Appointing backroom staff and a general manager before a head coach had been appointed was madness.

    I disagree that Curbs leaving was the right decision. For me, it was very very wrong. Of course, we were never going to keep him forever, but I thought that a little bit more cash for players and we would have pushed on. Unfortunately Murray couldn't find the money for Curbs but managed to find it for Dowie, who then blew it all on some terrible players.

    I do agree with your comment about appointing backroom staff. You have to let managers bring in their own people. Although the manager always gets the most credit (rightly so), they are part of a team, they need to be able to pick their own team.
  • edited December 2015

    We were fucked from the end of August !

    I'm still here and I wanted Curbs gone. The man, became to egotistic, look at the way he deliberately threw away the Middlesboro cup, game to show the board that he was the man in charge ! His time was up. The fact he,s unemployed as a manager shows you that.

    I seem to remember us being all over Middlesbrough in the initial Cup game at the Valley

    It was Steve McClaren who was too scared to attack because he knew they'd win the replay at the Riverside!!
  • The only people that ever moaned about it where those that started coming in 1998/99 or later.

    Everyone else was grateful for it.

    I'm not sure that's true. Some of our best moaners are the old moaners!
  • We were fucked from the end of August !

    I'm still here and I wanted Curbs gone. The man, became to egotistic, look at the way he deliberately threw away the Middlesboro cup, game to show the board that he was the man in charge ! His time was up. The fact he,s unemployed as a manager shows you that.

    I seem to remember us being all over Middlesbrough in the initial Cup game at the Valley

    It was Steve McClaren who was too scared to attack because he knew they'd win the replay at the Riverside!!
    Its a very strange comment to make (throwing the boro game) unless there is some evidence to back it up. We are all still waiting.....
  • We were fucked from the end of August !

    I'm still here and I wanted Curbs gone. The man, became to egotistic, look at the way he deliberately threw away the Middlesboro cup, game to show the board that he was the man in charge ! His time was up. The fact he,s unemployed as a manager shows you that.

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  • edited December 2015
    I think he had taken us as far as he could - based on the budget that he had - and that was still further than virtually any other manager would have taken us. I know there were many who were not satisfied with Curbs' safety first strategy, but I was more than happy to take that approach if it meant staying in the Prem. We were never likely to push on from where we were without more cash. You only have to look at our squads back then to see they were littered with triers, players who were not outstanding footballers but gave everything for the cause. Yes we had one or two good quality players over the years, but most of what was achieved was down to being well organised and all the players putting in a good shift every week.
  • I think he had taken us as far as he could - based on the budget that he had - and that was still further than virtually any other manager would have taken us. I know there were many who were not satisfied with Curbs' safety first strategy, but I was more than happy to take that approach if it meant staying in the Prem. We were never likely to push on from where we were without more cash. You only have to look at our squads back then to see they were littered with triers, players who were not outstanding footballers but gave everything for the cause. Yes we had one or two good quality players over the years, but most of what was achieved was down to being well organised and all the players putting in a good shift every week.

    This. We'd sign the occasional creative gem like Jensen and di canio and even had a gem born from our academy in Scott Parker, but for the most part we had the John robinsons, Matt Hollands and kishishevs. Not the greatest players in the world but they'd run through brick walls for curbs.
  • I think he had taken us as far as he could - based on the budget that he had - and that was still further than virtually any other manager would have taken us. I know there were many who were not satisfied with Curbs' safety first strategy, but I was more than happy to take that approach if it meant staying in the Prem. We were never likely to push on from where we were without more cash. You only have to look at our squads back then to see they were littered with triers, players who were not outstanding footballers but gave everything for the cause. Yes we had one or two good quality players over the years, but most of what was achieved was down to being well organised and all the players putting in a good shift every week.

    This. We'd sign the occasional creative gem like Jensen and di canio and even had a gem born from our academy in Scott Parker, but for the most part we had the John robinsons, Matt Hollands and kishishevs. Not the greatest players in the world but they'd run through brick walls for curbs.
    As opposed to running round concrete flyovers with Dowie!
  • Personally I can't recall moaning about being in the Premier League whatever our position, we were playing the best clubs in the land and sometimes upsetting the form books. We had a great set up with stable management and a good coaching team.
    A lot of the people phoning into the radio shows were either deliberate spoilers or hadn't experienced standing on the East terrace in the winter time watching us play in the lower leagues.

    Maybe they were Palace or Millwall wum's.
  • edited December 2015

    I think he had taken us as far as he could - based on the budget that he had - and that was still further than virtually any other manager would have taken us. I know there were many who were not satisfied with Curbs' safety first strategy, but I was more than happy to take that approach if it meant staying in the Prem. We were never likely to push on from where we were without more cash. You only have to look at our squads back then to see they were littered with triers, players who were not outstanding footballers but gave everything for the cause. Yes we had one or two good quality players over the years, but most of what was achieved was down to being well organised and all the players putting in a good shift every week.

    This. We'd sign the occasional creative gem like Jensen and di canio and even had a gem born from our academy in Scott Parker, but for the most part we had the John robinsons, Matt Hollands and kishishevs. Not the greatest players in the world but they'd run through brick walls for curbs.
    Now we have Fox who'd let the brick wall beat him and get a cross in, big Mak who can see over the wall but still get beat for a header by it and Cousins who'd attempt to run through the brick wall to the delight of some fans but make no mark on it whatsoever for the various unheard of Managers.
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