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VOTV: Varney speaks out following latest Meire muddle (15/2)

Airman Brown
Airman Brown Posts: 15,745
edited February 2016 in General Charlton
PV responds to the fact that Meire has already contradicted Duchatelet's statement about his previous approach to the club and confirms the offer is still on the table.

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  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    Fun and games.
  • It's good the interest is still there, gives a clear(ish) answer to the "what's the alternative?" questions some have raised and a goal for the protests.

    Just unfortunate RD and KM haven't taken the hint yet and seem determined to stay.
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    You can't believe a thing that comes out of her mouth. Pathological LIAR, she is also not very good at it.
  • Love this comment

    It is true that I would be in at 7.30am each day and on a matchday there was always a script to ensure every little detail of the day was covered. My critics would probably say I was too hands on!”

    Peter should really be ashamed of himself, hated it when he was too hands on, those years we were in the Premier League with a turnover of £40m were simply awful


    "there was always a script to ensure every little detail of the day was covered"

    I can't imagine to which little "detail" from Saturday this is an oblique reference.

    Probably making sure that the napkins were folded correctly for the directors' meal - nothing else springs to my mind....
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    edited February 2016
    Offer still open....that is interesting and something we should, if possible, find out more about. If the offer is to invest first (by taking a part of the club) and then in the fullness of time take a full takeover perhaps RD may listen to that approach rather than a full blown takeover at this stage. It gives RD the opportunity to get extra cash now to help the squad maintain Championship status and remain part of the board for a period of time before selling completely!!

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  • Offer still open....that is interesting and something we should, if possible, find out more about. If the offer is to invest first (by taking apart of the club) and then in the fullness of time take a full takeover perhaps RD may listen to that approach rather than a full blown takeover at this stage. It gives RD the opportunity to get extra cash now to help the squad maintain Championship status and remain part of the board for a period of time before selling completely!!

    Probably too late for this season now, if we had significant funds at the start of January and someone other than Fraeye in charge, it could have made a difference
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    edited February 2016
    When the most successful CEO in Charlton's history,
    is called a middleman and treated like a West African
    email sender,(the billboard reference;did RD think PV was behind that LOL) the game is up for KM and Duchatelet and saddest of all Richard Murray who have managed to go from hero to zero.

    Our biggest problem is Murray, as well as Duchatelet.
    Katrien Meire is such a joke and beyond parody now,
    she needs to be bypassed, which the consenus thought a year ago at Woolwich.

    It's not just about making money, or else why the hell wouldn't they talk to Peter Varney who any one who has kept abreast of his activities, knows he has Middle east connections. So if not his present boss, a associate i would imagine.
  • Roland caught between a rock and a hard place.

    If we go down the price plummets.

    If we stay up he has to deal with FFP limit going up to £13m meaning his break even model looks even more infeasible.

    IF only Varney had approached Roland back last August when the team was top six and so the price would have been at it's highest.....Oh, yeah he did but KM wasted six months avoiding the meeting while the team, and so the price, went on a massive slide.

    Inept as Meire is, it does sound as though for some reason Murray has had a major role to play in this meeting never happening.
  • 3blokes
    3blokes Posts: 4,610
    I posted this stuff on another thread but pasted into this one because I still think it shows the gulf in ability between Meet You On The Corner Meire and Meet You Like A Proper CEO Varney and it was trying to raise a serious question after Roland's Report.:

    A question for Airman -
    Did the welcome opening of dialogue on a street corner between our CEO and your good self yesterday actually prompt her to agree to a PROPER meeting of any sort between the protest leaders and her?
    Did she take your number or details, or suggest a suitable time for the chance to have a constructive discussion? If she did then that might suggest that this regime were trying to rectify some of the mistakes Roland referred to.
    If she didn't then that just indicates more of the same old tripe.
    Now I am not known for my psychic abilities, but some strange intuition tells me that no meeting was really arranged by Katrien Meire.;-)
    And if my clairvoyancy is wrong, and indeed there was, may I suggest, Airman that you check on the day if said meeting is actually taking place.
    Only sometimes CEOs can get very busy, very suddenly with other important things. Don't cancel tea with the vicar, Airman, or doing your hair on that day just yet ;-)
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,763

    Roland caught between a rock and a hard place.

    If we go down the price plummets.

    If we stay up he has to deal with FFP limit going up to £13m meaning his break even model looks even more infeasible.

    IF only Varney had approached Roland back last August when the team was top six and so the price would have been at it's highest.....Oh, yeah he did but KM wasted six months avoiding the meeting while the team, and so the price, went on a massive slide.

    Inept as Meire is, it does sound as though for some reason Murray has had a major role to play in this meeting never happening.
    Totally agree. Murray obviously hates Varney and he's punishing the club because of his pathetic vendetta.
  • bigstemarra
    bigstemarra Posts: 5,098
    “Both Roland and Katrien seem to go out of their way not to show respect to people around the club who could be an asset to them but instead have converted them into enemies of the regime and that has now extended to a large element of the fan base. The club is, of course, the victim in all of this and that is the saddest part of all.”

    Says it all.

    Well done AB/PV.

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  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,745
    3blokes said:

    I posted this stuff on another thread but pasted into this one because I still think it shows the gulf in ability between Meet You On The Corner Meire and Meet You Like A Proper CEO Varney and it was trying to raise a serious question after Roland's Report.:

    A question for Airman -
    Did the welcome opening of dialogue on a street corner between our CEO and your good self yesterday actually prompt her to agree to a PROPER meeting of any sort between the protest leaders and her?
    Did she take your number or details, or suggest a suitable time for the chance to have a constructive discussion? If she did then that might suggest that this regime were trying to rectify some of the mistakes Roland referred to.
    If she didn't then that just indicates more of the same old tripe.
    Now I am not known for my psychic abilities, but some strange intuition tells me that no meeting was really arranged by Katrien Meire.;-)
    And if my clairvoyancy is wrong, and indeed there was, may I suggest, Airman that you check on the day if said meeting is actually taking place.
    Only sometimes CEOs can get very busy, very suddenly with other important things. Don't cancel tea with the vicar, Airman, or doing your hair on that day just yet ;-)

    Of course not.
  • Arry Addick
    Arry Addick Posts: 1,170

    Roland caught between a rock and a hard place.

    If we go down the price plummets.

    If we stay up he has to deal with FFP limit going up to £13m meaning his break even model looks even more infeasible.

    IF only Varney had approached Roland back last August when the team was top six and so the price would have been at it's highest.....Oh, yeah he did but KM wasted six months avoiding the meeting while the team, and so the price, went on a massive slide.

    Inept as Meire is, it does sound as though for some reason Murray has had a major role to play in this meeting never happening.
    Totally agree. Murray obviously hates Varney and he's punishing the club because of his pathetic vendetta.
    See also, Simon Jordan vendetta and the appointment of Iain Dowie.........Murray's proved good at these vendettas!
    Undone all his previous good work.....needs to disappear, but is hanging around to keep an eye on the money he is owed.
  • Roland caught between a rock and a hard place.

    If we go down the price plummets.

    If we stay up he has to deal with FFP limit going up to £13m meaning his break even model looks even more infeasible.

    IF only Varney had approached Roland back last August when the team was top six and so the price would have been at it's highest.....Oh, yeah he did but KM wasted six months avoiding the meeting while the team, and so the price, went on a massive slide.

    Inept as Meire is, it does sound as though for some reason Murray has had a major role to play in this meeting never happening.
    Totally agree. Murray obviously hates Varney and he's punishing the club because of his pathetic vendetta.
    I'd love to know what the issue is between Murray and Varney.
    I'm inclined to believe it is at the root of the rebuff of Varney's overtures.
    Otherwise, it just appears like basic pig ignorance on the part of Meire/ Duchatelet.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,475
    Airman, a couple of weeks ago I heard that Murray himself had some involvement in another interested group. You heard anything of the sort?
  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,893
    edited February 2016

    Offer still open....that is interesting and something we should, if possible, find out more about. If the offer is to invest first (by taking a part of the club) and then in the fullness of time take a full takeover perhaps RD may listen to that approach rather than a full blown takeover at this stage. It gives RD the opportunity to get extra cash now to help the squad maintain Championship status and remain part of the board for a period of time before selling completely!!

    I read it slightly different, @RM. I think it is a full takeover but, due to the amount they wish to spend (on players?), then some of the money has to come from a 'sponsership' (eg The XYZ Valley for £50M a year ;-)) to get around FFP limitations.
  • bigstemarra
    bigstemarra Posts: 5,098

    Offer still open....that is interesting and something we should, if possible, find out more about. If the offer is to invest first (by taking a part of the club) and then in the fullness of time take a full takeover perhaps RD may listen to that approach rather than a full blown takeover at this stage. It gives RD the opportunity to get extra cash now to help the squad maintain Championship status and remain part of the board for a period of time before selling completely!!

    Great point RM - maybe if Roland had a bit more cash we could actually afford to buy players that have spent time playing football in recent memory rather than limping around the treatment room. I mean, it's not like we're danger of being relegated or anything, is it?

    We must all bow to the superior experience and wisdom of Roland (football genius) and Katrien (popular figurehead) in this respect, of course.
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    Hex said:

    Offer still open....that is interesting and something we should, if possible, find out more about. If the offer is to invest first (by taking a part of the club) and then in the fullness of time take a full takeover perhaps RD may listen to that approach rather than a full blown takeover at this stage. It gives RD the opportunity to get extra cash now to help the squad maintain Championship status and remain part of the board for a period of time before selling completely!!

    I read it slightly different, RM. I think it is a full takeover but, due to the amount they wish to spend (on players?), then some of the money has to come from a 'sponsership' (eg The XYZ Valley for £50M a year ;-)) to get around FFP limitations.
    Fair point @Hex, you could be correct there. However whatever it is, we somehow need to get RD to at least sit down and talk!!
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,244
    Hex said:

    Offer still open....that is interesting and something we should, if possible, find out more about. If the offer is to invest first (by taking a part of the club) and then in the fullness of time take a full takeover perhaps RD may listen to that approach rather than a full blown takeover at this stage. It gives RD the opportunity to get extra cash now to help the squad maintain Championship status and remain part of the board for a period of time before selling completely!!

    I read it slightly different, RM. I think it is a full takeover but, due to the amount they wish to spend (on players?), then some of the money has to come from a 'sponsership' (eg The XYZ Valley for £50M a year ;-)) to get around FFP limitations.
    I think the rules stop owners doing that ie sponsoring themselves as a trick to get around FFP
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,745
    edited February 2016

    Airman, a couple of weeks ago I heard that Murray himself had some involvement in another interested group. You heard anything of the sort?

    Yes, but "with" rather than "in" and I don't think that group has - or at any rate would pay - the money. One credible national journalist reckons there was a meeting of someone with Meire at which the likely price was discussed, which if true further undercuts her "not for sale" mantra. But bear in mind that Murray's been backing the wrong horse since 2006.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,244

    Airman, a couple of weeks ago I heard that Murray himself had some involvement in another interested group. You heard anything of the sort?

    Yes, but I don't think that group has the money. Bear in mind that Murray's been backing the wrong horse since 2006.
    regardless, if RM is putting together or is part of a consortium then that suggests that he believes RD is willing to sell.

    He said in the interview that he wasn't ready to sell "yet" and that there had been many offers.

    So maybe the door is ajar, if not fully open.