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Richard Murray Club Chairman
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Let’s put it the other way round. What does Richard Murray have to loose by distancing himself from the rantings of a deluded man.
i have no reason to doubt Richards sanity but can see no reason why he does not distance himself from what is becoming a national laughing stock.0 -
Murray needs to be driven out of the club much in the same way as Duchatelet.
Their poisonous influences have been raging for far too long and these herberts can't and won't be able to fix it. Neither posses the will to put the club ahead of their own ego's and agendas.
They will therefore ultimately leave us deep in the merd. The longer they remain, the deeper the merd.4 -
I believe the reason nothing has ever leaked about the British consortium is there isn't one. I think it's a "buyer of last resort" type thing, and will go through when "all other options are exhausted". It's Murray and the £1 he has still got from when he sold to the spivs.ForeverAddickted said:
Is there any chance that Richard is part of the British Group looking to purchase the club do we know?roseandcrown said:the sad thing is a Murray lead group may be our only way away from Roland.
its the only logical reason I can think of why he has kept quite now does not want to get on the wrong side of Roland.
I hope not I think we need a clean sweep without Murray hanging around but if he did manged to bring on some decent owners he may save some form of reputation.
As mentioned above it would explain why he's been quiet3 -
I understand people's reluctancy to bad mouth and criticise a man who they see brought special times to the club.
But those times have long gone and the club is at a critical pass and it's very future is in peril.
And Richard Murray continues to stand alongside a man that has long since undone any good work that may have been achieved in previous years.
I demand him to speak out and deplore these actions.
It's not a secret anymore. This is not fake news. The world and his wife can clearly see what's going on at this club.
If he won't speak out against this abhorrent situation then he deserves every bit of vitriol he gets.
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Some people realise they have picked the wrong side, but can't admit it. I'm sure in the early days there were justifications he could make for his position. We knew Duchatelet was dangerous and bonkers, but Murray may have looked at his wealth and saw the possibilities that brings for stability. of course, Duchatelet being a complete mad man will ultimately bring you the opposite of stability.
Any sane person would take what they can for the club. But Duchatelet wants to ignore all of his errors, or blame others for them, and recoup more money than anybody in their right minds would be willing to pay. Something can only be worth what people are willing to pay for it. That is just common sense and Murray will know that. I would hope he might have a frank word with Duchatelet, but I doubt he would rock the boat in any way. He seems to have a certain contempt for the fans. Fair enough, many of us have a certain contempt for him. Had he walked away from football 10 to 12 years ago, he would have been a Charlton legend. It is going some to do such damage to you reputation, and sadly, place in history, but he has managed it.3 -
I bow to those with superior knowledge to me,but I think Richard had just about had enough of financially supporting the club when he sold to the spivs.Once again,same situation as RD,(see the video),who initially thought in both cases that things could go so terribly wrong.The spivs were supposed to be Charlton supporters.The video of Rd Km and RM makes all the right noises.Kindly old gentleman,former owner and to be fair,an easy on the eye young female ceo,all saying what we wanted to hear.One thing for certain,when the club is finally sold,do not believe one word of what the new owners say.On a personal note,if I was Richard Murray I would just piss off and let everyone get on with it.3
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And now it's like a volcano that you could drop a tennis ball into!ElfsborgAddick said:
Murray sold his bottom to the Belgians so can jog on.roseandcrown said:the sad thing is a Murray lead group may be our only way away from Roland.
its the only logical reason I can think of why he has kept quite now does not want to get on the wrong side of Roland.
I hope not I think we need a clean sweep without Murray hanging around but if he did manged to bring on some decent owners he may save some form of reputation.
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The deal in 2010 involved Murray getting money back and leaving the table - he personally renegotiated it to leave that money (which he subsequently lost) in and remain as a dragalong 10 per cent investor. Completely the opposite of your version.thickandthin63 said:I bow to those with superior knowledge to me,but I think Richard had just about had enough of financially supporting the club when he sold to the spivs.Once again,same situation as RD,(see the video),who initially thought in both cases that things could go so terribly wrong.The spivs were supposed to be Charlton supporters.The video of Rd Km and RM makes all the right noises.Kindly old gentleman,former owner and to be fair,an easy on the eye young female ceo,all saying what we wanted to hear.One thing for certain,when the club is finally sold,do not believe one word of what the new owners say.On a personal note,if I was Richard Murray I would just piss off and let everyone get on with it.
Nobody ever believed or claimed the spivs were Charlton supporters. It was well known Jimenez was a Chelsea fan and Slater actively followed Manchester City. Cash doesn’t even like football.6 -
Mr Murray I would like to hear more about the corporate affairs please .carly burn said:
Do yourself a favour and have a butchers at this.thickandthin63 said:Obviously,everyone on here slating Murray for not speaking out against Rd has access to Richards daily involvement in the club.They are aware of every conversion which takes place at board level,and can relate word for word the discussions which take place.Having lived through the Murray period,I can say that this man dedicated his life for a long period to this club,and probably still does.I do not think for one minute he patronises RD to the extent that many think he does,just because he does not make public his opinions (like Taylor for instance)does not mean he is in agreement with what is going on.Richard is a man of great dignity and if the truth is known is probably responsible for what little stability we have left.
https://youtu.be/PD3vZvopE24
30-40 seconds in should do it.
Murray is still a part of the club and needs to start acting like the statesman you claim he is.1 -
May Murray's next poo be a hedgehog.Ferryman said:
And now it's like a volcano that you could drop a tennis ball into!ElfsborgAddick said:
Murray sold his bottom to the Belgians so can jog on.roseandcrown said:the sad thing is a Murray lead group may be our only way away from Roland.
its the only logical reason I can think of why he has kept quite now does not want to get on the wrong side of Roland.
I hope not I think we need a clean sweep without Murray hanging around but if he did manged to bring on some decent owners he may save some form of reputation.
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Slater was even filmed being assaulted at an overseas match by the police, who subsequently were found to be secret Charlton supporters, with links to Belgian graffitiests.
The deal in 2010 involved Murray getting money back and leaving the table - he personally renegotiated it to leave that money (which he subsequently lost) in and remain as a dragalong 10 per cent investor. Completely the opposite of your version.thickandthin63 said:I bow to those with superior knowledge to me,but I think Richard had just about had enough of financially supporting the club when he sold to the spivs.Once again,same situation as RD,(see the video),who initially thought in both cases that things could go so terribly wrong.The spivs were supposed to be Charlton supporters.The video of Rd Km and RM makes all the right noises.Kindly old gentleman,former owner and to be fair,an easy on the eye young female ceo,all saying what we wanted to hear.One thing for certain,when the club is finally sold,do not believe one word of what the new owners say.On a personal note,if I was Richard Murray I would just piss off and let everyone get on with it.
Nobody ever believed or claimed the spivs were Charlton supporters. It was well known Jimenez was a Chelsea fan and Slater actively followed Manchester City. Cash doesn’t even like football.9 -
So who do we think Murray would want in as manager,if we're him buying us...ForeverAddickted said:
Is there any chance that Richard is part of the British Group looking to purchase the club do we know?roseandcrown said:the sad thing is a Murray lead group may be our only way away from Roland.
its the only logical reason I can think of why he has kept quite now does not want to get on the wrong side of Roland.
I hope not I think we need a clean sweep without Murray hanging around but if he did manged to bring on some decent owners he may save some form of reputation.
As mentioned above it would explain why he's been quiet
(for a solitary £1 of his Belgian buddy)
oh & to just add,I hope he don't...😣0 -
I don’t get the extreme negative stance towards RM. For an outsider like me he chose to leave some money in to stay involved and that presumably at the time was helpful to the then owners and what he wanted too.
He couldn’t have anticipated just how bad things would get under Slater and then RD. Did anyone have that foresight?
He apparently fell out with Varney but the details of that I assume are only known to those on the inside and seems to cloud much of this debate. That will have created obstacles to any consortium or interested parties Varney may have brought to the table but if RD is as money influenced as we assume this would have been overcome. Easy with hindsight to get too wound up on this because for a reasonable period RD did seem to be happy to fund the club albeit with poor choices and no need to entertain Varneys interested backers.
I personally like to think he genuinely thought he could temper and work with RD to some extent and probably believes he did manage to positively influence him on occasions but less than he or we wanted. RD is now clearly an autocrat and seemingly impossible to know how he thinks and influence for the better and I assume RM has also resigned to that.
He has correctly in my view said nothing in the last year as it would be fruitless. He isn’t really important in this any more.0 -
The bottom line is he's stood by and done nothing, he's had plenty oppotunity.valleynick66 said:I don’t get the extreme negative stance towards RM. For an outsider like me he chose to leave some money in to stay involved and that presumably at the time was helpful to the then owners and what he wanted too.
He couldn’t have anticipated just how bad things would get under Slater and then RD. Did anyone have that foresight?
He apparently fell out with Varney but the details of that I assume are only known to those on the inside and seems to cloud much of this debate. That will have created obstacles to any consortium or interested parties Varney may have brought to the table but if RD is as money influenced as we assume this would have been overcome. Easy with hindsight to get too wound up on this because for a reasonable period RD did seem to be happy to fund the club albeit with poor choices and no need to entertain Varneys interested backers.
I personally like to think he genuinely thought he could temper and work with RD to some extent and probably believes he did manage to positively influence him on occasions but less than he or we wanted. RD is now clearly an autocrat and seemingly impossible to know how he thinks and influence for the better and I assume RM has also resigned to that.
He has correctly in my view said nothing in the last year as it would be fruitless. He isn’t really important in this any more.2 -
Ive only just caught up with another thread and now i see what your avatar picture is redmist. Balloon knot had me laughing out loud on the train!1
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To do what exactly from his very limited position of influence? A hollow gesture of resigning?RedMist said:
The bottom line is he's stood by and done nothing, he's had plenty oppotunity.valleynick66 said:I don’t get the extreme negative stance towards RM. For an outsider like me he chose to leave some money in to stay involved and that presumably at the time was helpful to the then owners and what he wanted too.
He couldn’t have anticipated just how bad things would get under Slater and then RD. Did anyone have that foresight?
He apparently fell out with Varney but the details of that I assume are only known to those on the inside and seems to cloud much of this debate. That will have created obstacles to any consortium or interested parties Varney may have brought to the table but if RD is as money influenced as we assume this would have been overcome. Easy with hindsight to get too wound up on this because for a reasonable period RD did seem to be happy to fund the club albeit with poor choices and no need to entertain Varneys interested backers.
I personally like to think he genuinely thought he could temper and work with RD to some extent and probably believes he did manage to positively influence him on occasions but less than he or we wanted. RD is now clearly an autocrat and seemingly impossible to know how he thinks and influence for the better and I assume RM has also resigned to that.
He has correctly in my view said nothing in the last year as it would be fruitless. He isn’t really important in this any more.
As I say my guess is that he thought he was helping but has realised he has been unable. But just a guess.0 -
No. We all have influence.valleynick66 said:
To do what exactly from his very limited position of influence? A hollow gesture of resigning?RedMist said:
The bottom line is he's stood by and done nothing, he's had plenty oppotunity.valleynick66 said:I don’t get the extreme negative stance towards RM. For an outsider like me he chose to leave some money in to stay involved and that presumably at the time was helpful to the then owners and what he wanted too.
He couldn’t have anticipated just how bad things would get under Slater and then RD. Did anyone have that foresight?
He apparently fell out with Varney but the details of that I assume are only known to those on the inside and seems to cloud much of this debate. That will have created obstacles to any consortium or interested parties Varney may have brought to the table but if RD is as money influenced as we assume this would have been overcome. Easy with hindsight to get too wound up on this because for a reasonable period RD did seem to be happy to fund the club albeit with poor choices and no need to entertain Varneys interested backers.
I personally like to think he genuinely thought he could temper and work with RD to some extent and probably believes he did manage to positively influence him on occasions but less than he or we wanted. RD is now clearly an autocrat and seemingly impossible to know how he thinks and influence for the better and I assume RM has also resigned to that.
He has correctly in my view said nothing in the last year as it would be fruitless. He isn’t really important in this any more.
As I say my guess is that he thought he was helping but has realised he has been unable. But just a guess.
We need as many voices as possible to stand up and publicly denounce this situation. It all adds to the pressure.
It's all hands to the pump ffs. We are as close as ever to breaking point as a football establishment.
Murray is the conduit between the owner and the fans. I haven't seen any reports or statements saying that is no longer the case?
He has far more influence than most. He could be doing so much more. Obviously doesn't fancy it2 -
That would be a start.valleynick66 said:
To do what exactly from his very limited position of influence? A hollow gesture of resigning?RedMist said:
The bottom line is he's stood by and done nothing, he's had plenty oppotunity.valleynick66 said:I don’t get the extreme negative stance towards RM. For an outsider like me he chose to leave some money in to stay involved and that presumably at the time was helpful to the then owners and what he wanted too.
He couldn’t have anticipated just how bad things would get under Slater and then RD. Did anyone have that foresight?
He apparently fell out with Varney but the details of that I assume are only known to those on the inside and seems to cloud much of this debate. That will have created obstacles to any consortium or interested parties Varney may have brought to the table but if RD is as money influenced as we assume this would have been overcome. Easy with hindsight to get too wound up on this because for a reasonable period RD did seem to be happy to fund the club albeit with poor choices and no need to entertain Varneys interested backers.
I personally like to think he genuinely thought he could temper and work with RD to some extent and probably believes he did manage to positively influence him on occasions but less than he or we wanted. RD is now clearly an autocrat and seemingly impossible to know how he thinks and influence for the better and I assume RM has also resigned to that.
He has correctly in my view said nothing in the last year as it would be fruitless. He isn’t really important in this any more.2 -
Yes 👌orpingtonRED said:Ive only just caught up with another thread and now i see what your avatar picture is redmist. Balloon knot had me laughing out loud on the train!0 -
valleynick66 said:
To do what exactly from his very limited position of influence? A hollow gesture of resigning?RedMist said:
The bottom line is he's stood by and done nothing, he's had plenty oppotunity.valleynick66 said:I don’t get the extreme negative stance towards RM. For an outsider like me he chose to leave some money in to stay involved and that presumably at the time was helpful to the then owners and what he wanted too.
He couldn’t have anticipated just how bad things would get under Slater and then RD. Did anyone have that foresight?
He apparently fell out with Varney but the details of that I assume are only known to those on the inside and seems to cloud much of this debate. That will have created obstacles to any consortium or interested parties Varney may have brought to the table but if RD is as money influenced as we assume this would have been overcome. Easy with hindsight to get too wound up on this because for a reasonable period RD did seem to be happy to fund the club albeit with poor choices and no need to entertain Varneys interested backers.
I personally like to think he genuinely thought he could temper and work with RD to some extent and probably believes he did manage to positively influence him on occasions but less than he or we wanted. RD is now clearly an autocrat and seemingly impossible to know how he thinks and influence for the better and I assume RM has also resigned to that.
He has correctly in my view said nothing in the last year as it would be fruitless. He isn’t really important in this any more.
As I say my guess is that he thought he was helping but has realised he has been unable. But just a guess.
Resigning now would be pointless. However, if he had resigned when it first became apparent that it was all going tits up and denounced Roland he would have come out with his reputation intact and in fact would be seen as ‘hero’ to most. The fact he didn’t says it all. Personally I’ll be glad to see the back of him, the duplicitous weasel.
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For me it's not about the money, I understand he's made an investment and he doesn't want to jeopardise that. That nonsense about 'having the relationship with the fans' really sticks in the craw though. He said it, he should abide by it. It strikes me that he's all in favour of picking up the plaudits when things are going well, but isn't man enough to make a challenge when things are so obviously out of control. Come on Richard, come out of your little hiding hole and say something constructive - and by that I don't mean echoing Two Shat's lies.1
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To fulfill his role is all I ask.valleynick66 said:
To do what exactly from his very limited position of influence? A hollow gesture of resigning?RedMist said:
The bottom line is he's stood by and done nothing, he's had plenty oppotunity.valleynick66 said:I don’t get the extreme negative stance towards RM. For an outsider like me he chose to leave some money in to stay involved and that presumably at the time was helpful to the then owners and what he wanted too.
He couldn’t have anticipated just how bad things would get under Slater and then RD. Did anyone have that foresight?
He apparently fell out with Varney but the details of that I assume are only known to those on the inside and seems to cloud much of this debate. That will have created obstacles to any consortium or interested parties Varney may have brought to the table but if RD is as money influenced as we assume this would have been overcome. Easy with hindsight to get too wound up on this because for a reasonable period RD did seem to be happy to fund the club albeit with poor choices and no need to entertain Varneys interested backers.
I personally like to think he genuinely thought he could temper and work with RD to some extent and probably believes he did manage to positively influence him on occasions but less than he or we wanted. RD is now clearly an autocrat and seemingly impossible to know how he thinks and influence for the better and I assume RM has also resigned to that.
He has correctly in my view said nothing in the last year as it would be fruitless. He isn’t really important in this any more.
As I say my guess is that he thought he was helping but has realised he has been unable. But just a guess.
He said in the video that his role was to act as a conduit between the owner & the fans.
Why does he remain a director, if he is not fulfilling his role ?
If he is fulfilling a meaningful role, then he should inform the fans, what he actually does and what the hell is going on.3 -
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This is so cringyworthy watching this.carly burn said:
Do yourself a favour and have a butchers at this.thickandthin63 said:Obviously,everyone on here slating Murray for not speaking out against Rd has access to Richards daily involvement in the club.They are aware of every conversion which takes place at board level,and can relate word for word the discussions which take place.Having lived through the Murray period,I can say that this man dedicated his life for a long period to this club,and probably still does.I do not think for one minute he patronises RD to the extent that many think he does,just because he does not make public his opinions (like Taylor for instance)does not mean he is in agreement with what is going on.Richard is a man of great dignity and if the truth is known is probably responsible for what little stability we have left.https://youtu.be/PD3vZvopE24
30-40 seconds in should do it.
Murray is still a part of the club and needs to start acting like the statesman you claim he is.
I can't face this.To me this is what kills Murray. He stood by this guy and as far as we know, still does.He needs to go.1 -
Once upon a time he said we should all watch because he would resign if he no longer trusted / believed Duchatelet.LargeAddick said:valleynick66 said:
To do what exactly from his very limited position of influence? A hollow gesture of resigning?RedMist said:
The bottom line is he's stood by and done nothing, he's had plenty oppotunity.valleynick66 said:I don’t get the extreme negative stance towards RM. For an outsider like me he chose to leave some money in to stay involved and that presumably at the time was helpful to the then owners and what he wanted too.
He couldn’t have anticipated just how bad things would get under Slater and then RD. Did anyone have that foresight?
He apparently fell out with Varney but the details of that I assume are only known to those on the inside and seems to cloud much of this debate. That will have created obstacles to any consortium or interested parties Varney may have brought to the table but if RD is as money influenced as we assume this would have been overcome. Easy with hindsight to get too wound up on this because for a reasonable period RD did seem to be happy to fund the club albeit with poor choices and no need to entertain Varneys interested backers.
I personally like to think he genuinely thought he could temper and work with RD to some extent and probably believes he did manage to positively influence him on occasions but less than he or we wanted. RD is now clearly an autocrat and seemingly impossible to know how he thinks and influence for the better and I assume RM has also resigned to that.
He has correctly in my view said nothing in the last year as it would be fruitless. He isn’t really important in this any more.
As I say my guess is that he thought he was helping but has realised he has been unable. But just a guess.
Resigning now would be pointless. However, if he had resigned when it first became apparent that it was all going tits up and denounced Roland he would have come out with his reputation intact and in fact would be seen as ‘hero’ to most. The fact he didn’t says it all. Personally I’ll be glad to see the back of him, the duplicitous weasel.
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So begs the question of why is he hanging around?valleynick66 said:
To do what exactly from his very limited position of influence? A hollow gesture of resigning?RedMist said:
The bottom line is he's stood by and done nothing, he's had plenty oppotunity.valleynick66 said:I don’t get the extreme negative stance towards RM. For an outsider like me he chose to leave some money in to stay involved and that presumably at the time was helpful to the then owners and what he wanted too.
He couldn’t have anticipated just how bad things would get under Slater and then RD. Did anyone have that foresight?
He apparently fell out with Varney but the details of that I assume are only known to those on the inside and seems to cloud much of this debate. That will have created obstacles to any consortium or interested parties Varney may have brought to the table but if RD is as money influenced as we assume this would have been overcome. Easy with hindsight to get too wound up on this because for a reasonable period RD did seem to be happy to fund the club albeit with poor choices and no need to entertain Varneys interested backers.
I personally like to think he genuinely thought he could temper and work with RD to some extent and probably believes he did manage to positively influence him on occasions but less than he or we wanted. RD is now clearly an autocrat and seemingly impossible to know how he thinks and influence for the better and I assume RM has also resigned to that.
He has correctly in my view said nothing in the last year as it would be fruitless. He isn’t really important in this any more.
As I say my guess is that he thought he was helping but has realised he has been unable. But just a guess.1 -
Murrary is a two faced Rat.
A few years ago, I personally still always wanted to still give him the benefit of the doubt.
He has a positive historic connection with Charlton.
It's gone now.
He is just a liar and he is a big problem.
I think the bloke is quite simply all about himself. He is a dark business man. He is not a football person.
It is such a sad realisation. I really liked the bloke
"Enjoy the championship you tosser"
*I'm going to get the club sued by getting palaces really bald ugly awful head coach. Sign loads of sh*t squad players and waste a fortune on them. Get the club relegated.
Lose my job.
Disappear.
Get Roland in. Tell a thousand lies. Contribute towards the sacking of a load of awful head coaches...on a month to month basis.
Do absolutely nothing...other then stick up for KM on the OS.
Contribute towards getting the club relegated...for a 2nd time.
Don't apologise or offer a form of internal explanation.
Get Russel Slade in and make stupid "I'm the victim of Charlton fans abuse" in the press conference of his appointment.
Pretend I'm ill...put it on the O.S, then just randomly turn up again at the valley again a few weeks later.
Do nothing, say nothing.
"It's just a message board thing"
👆Nope.
Murrary. You have simply just turned into a twat.
Judas.
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I'm pretty certain I remember Richard Murray backing Karel Fraeye to the hilt during an early interview when Fraeye had already begun to show just what he could achieve given unlimited control of the playing side. Let's be clear. we were already in a bad way. RD bought in the village idiot to act as his personal stooge. Murray backed him. No need for foresight. Murray by then must have been able to see what the rest of us were desperately trying to imagine was a bad dream. But he ploughed ahead anyway. There were countless moments when he could have stood up and said 'this is embarassing - I want no part of it'. Mel Baroni did after less than a month. For me this dismisses any idea that Murray had given up. Sorry to him after the good years, but I genuinely believe he was in love with himself, couldn't imagine Charlton without Murray, and stayed in the club as nominal acting president/tea boy as it fed his ego.valleynick66 said:I don’t get the extreme negative stance towards RM. For an outsider like me he chose to leave some money in to stay involved and that presumably at the time was helpful to the then owners and what he wanted too.
He couldn’t have anticipated just how bad things would get under Slater and then RD. Did anyone have that foresight?
He apparently fell out with Varney but the details of that I assume are only known to those on the inside and seems to cloud much of this debate. That will have created obstacles to any consortium or interested parties Varney may have brought to the table but if RD is as money influenced as we assume this would have been overcome. Easy with hindsight to get too wound up on this because for a reasonable period RD did seem to be happy to fund the club albeit with poor choices and no need to entertain Varneys interested backers.
I personally like to think he genuinely thought he could temper and work with RD to some extent and probably believes he did manage to positively influence him on occasions but less than he or we wanted. RD is now clearly an autocrat and seemingly impossible to know how he thinks and influence for the better and I assume RM has also resigned to that.
He has correctly in my view said nothing in the last year as it would be fruitless. He isn’t really important in this any more.
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Was it Murray who said Parky would be given the job based on results?4
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Yep and that Parky was a better manager than Curbs. Deluded.2
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Three points from eight games, gave him the job of taking us down based on results. What's the problem?guinnessaddick said:Was it Murray who said Parky would be given the job based on results?0
