Algarve i bet for a living on horse racing and golf but i dont need or have to bet when i watch racing and i watch every National Hunt race run everyday of every week of every year.Horse racing isnt the biggest betting thing as pointed out by bobmunro in an earlier piece,i dont know and i dont anyone does know that exact affect no betting would have on horse racing but i do know horse racing wouldnt stop because of it.I see and talk to owners who have never bet but go racing 2-3 times a week to see there horses run.
A lot of the comments on Peanuts GN thread mention odds. #justsaying
Sorry Prez, are you disputing anything I've said above? Of course there are odds on "my" [sic] GN thread. That is the race in which I bet every year and have made it an analytical study - the Grand National having started my love of NH racing as a 7 year old watching Red Alligator win it in 1968. Outside of it, I avidly watch 100+ steeplechases every year, at a course or on TV, and bet in approx 6. I think that would be described as occasional.
Not 'disputing' anything PM - as i put in the post.... #justsaying - however, most people equate odds to betting - although obviously i suppose it could be used as a way of determining what chances people think a horse might have of winning. I suppose i am agreeing with Algarve's comment that *most* people go to the Races to have a bet (i certainly wouldnt go if i wasnt betting- as i would find it bleedin boring, in the same way that a lot of people find cricket boring) ....but , each to their own .
PS ... and i'll still be following your advice in the GN BTW (and having a bet) -so, dont get it wrong I wanna get my house back ! #nopressure
Algarve i bet for a living on horse racing and golf but i dont need or have to bet when i watch racing and i watch every National Hunt race run everyday of every week of every year.Horse racing isnt the biggest betting thing as pointed out by bobmunro in an earlier piece,i dont know and i dont anyone does know that exact affect no betting would have on horse racing but i do know horse racing wouldnt stop because of it.I see and talk to owners who have never bet but go racing 2-3 times a week to see there horses run.
We will have to agree to disagree, though I never said it would stop, I said it would be almost non-existent as the mug punters who make you a living wouldn't be putting their money into the sport. It would be, as someone else said, like it was originally, a thing for the very rich to compete with each other in.
I hate it when horses are put down but there seems more bad publicity towards this that is given to motor cycle/ car drivers killed.
yer.... Why do people care more about an animal that is pushed to the brink of death, more than a human being..being paid millions for a sport he loves ?
I hate it when horses are put down but there seems more bad publicity towards this that is given to motor cycle/ car drivers killed.
yer.... Why do people care more about an animal that is pushed to the brink of death, more than a human being..being paid millions for a sport he loves ?
Good point made by a lady in the bar this afternoon, who is a big race goer and horse racing fan. There's no betting in Portugal, and there are no racecourses. She agreed that racing relies more or less entirely on betting...
Good point made by a lady in the bar this afternoon, who is a big race goer and horse racing fan. There's no betting in Portugal, and there are no racecourses. She agreed that racing relies more or less entirely on betting...
The original question would have been typical of the questions on my Philosophy assignments when I was at Uni. My major subject wasn't Philosophy, but the specialism of my tutor was Philosophy through Linguistic Analysis. What do we mean by what we say if you like. It is a study that isn't content to look up terms in a dictionary, or dismiss the search for meaning in words as semantics, but one that tries to grasp the context and intentions wrapped up in the language used. So Horse Racing is good to a degree, to some people, in some context's, but not necessarily 'good' definitively, not 'bad' also. I suppose it is a case of weighing things up to a large extent, as a vegetarian it would be nice to think of absolutes with regard to animals, but the reality is more nuanced, and 'good' and 'bad' may not be the best way to perceive the issues. I would like to think that having a debate or discussion would effect the depth of thinking of people to a degree. It is worth debating whether it is a 'good' thing that horse racing could provide a platform for research and better care for horses, so that destroying them would become less and less of an option. However a potential benefit like that needs to be weighed against some of the very unpleasant things, the 'bad' if you like associated with horse racing. The difficult bit is to come down on one side or another when you weigh things up, rather than continue to think about it forever. I know that for me, one reason I became a vegetarian was philosophical. Where in my mind the right to take the life of an animal was far outweighed by my thinking that the animal has a right to live. Of course, once a person comes to a decision, it is far more likely they will seek out stuff that reinforces their position and the decision will become an embedded part of their persona. I think it is good to have this debate, but it would be really good if we all avoided evangelical tendencies.
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I suppose i am agreeing with Algarve's comment that *most* people go to the Races to have a bet (i certainly wouldnt go if i wasnt betting- as i would find it bleedin boring, in the same way that a lot of people find cricket boring) ....but , each to their own .
PS ... and i'll still be following your advice in the GN BTW (and having a bet) -so, dont get it wrong
#nopressure
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