Appalling lack of humanity and respect for human life from people claiming to be religious. To my mind they are a totally misguided death cult. Any religion worth anything treats others with respect.
RIP to all the families of those who lost a loved one. All those people were doing was trying to enjoy a football match. Apparently all forms of games are seen as Haram (forbidden) by these idiots.
I prefer the term Daesh for Isis. Daesh in arbabic is descibed as thugs who want to impose their view on others.
Appalling lack of humanity and respect for human life from people claiming to be religious. To my mind they are a totally misguided death cult. Any religion worth anything treats others with respect.
RIP to all the families of those who lost a loved one. All those people were doing was trying to enjoy a football match. Apparently all forms of games are seen as Haram (forbidden) by these idiots.
I prefer the term Daesh for Isis. Daesh in arbabic is descibed as thugs who want to impose their view on others.
The views that Daesh hold against sports are (unsurprisingly.) incredibly extreme, supposedly football is also homosexual. Just last year about a dozen people were executed via firing squad for watching Iraq play in the Asian cup on TV.
Sadly it isn't the first, and wont be the last. Something really must be done, simply because it seems shameful that the world watches on whilst these atrocities are committed. That sentiment is a fat lot of good for those affected though.
Does anyone have an atrocity list analysed by Shia/Sunny? I think it could be enlightening, especially compared with Western support for various regimes.
Sunni / Shia are not the same. According to Independent below, 85% of Muslims are Sunni.
There's a map in the wikipedia article below. Turkey / Africa / Pakistan / Majority of Saudia Arabia, Malaysia are Sunni. Iran / parts of population of Afghanistan, Majority of Bahrain's population, small bit of Saudi & Yemen are Shia.
It is not straight forward to build up a simple atrocity list by religion. It is important to note that Daesh are Sunni and have nothing to do with Iran (Shia), which is a completely different story.
There's also a lot of domestic atrocities in lots of places that we never get to hear of. Nigeria - Boko Haram, Al Shabab, Somalia , Taliban, Al Qaeda, Daesh are Sunni. The majority suffering atrocities are are muslims from both denominations, probably mostly Sunni's themselves.
Not discounting bad things carried out by some Shia groups such as Hezbollah. The Houthi's in Yemen are more a nationalist group. I don't know a whole heap about that so won't comment on that. Some read it as a proxy war between Saudi Arabia & Iran.
The Saudi Wahabi religion is extremely conservative. That is a contributory factor. The situation in the country is complex as the ruling Saudi elite made a deal with the Americans which is not uniformly supported by many in the country. Saudi itself has had a lot of domestic terrorism to deal with.
The western support for various regimes back regimes that they can control / influence. It is often an alliance with a group who can then maintain power & their strategic interests align with the West.
Sadaam Hussein paid lip service to the Sunni religion and was initially backed by the Americans in the war against Iran (who America was / is angry with due to US embassy hostage / Israel / controlling the Oil etc).
When the Americans rolled into Iraq to kick out Sadaam as he stopped being compliant, they dismantled the Iraqi state and disenfrachised the Iraqi Sunni population, largely to make money for Haliburton/US companies. The Iraqi government then became dominated by Shia's with a big influence from Iran, who didn't build bridges with the Iraqi Sunni population. All this let the Sunni Jihadists in via the chaos that formed & provided a back drop from which Daesh could fill the vacuum.
In Syria & Iraq many of the most strictest Daesh members come from outside of these areas from Pakistan or Saudi and are disliked by many of the indigenous of the area. Sunni populations Iraq / Syria in general are not keen on Daesh, mostly the populations in these areas are just ordinary people trying to live their lives caught up in the madness. People receive lashes for smoking or wearing the wrong length of trousers & other minor infringements. Its no way to live.
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I expect much tighter security in the Euros this summer. I wonder if this this might stop there being the 'fanzones' at this years event.
RIP to all the families of those who lost a loved one. All those people were doing was trying to enjoy a football match. Apparently all forms of games are seen as Haram (forbidden) by these idiots.
I prefer the term Daesh for Isis. Daesh in arbabic is descibed as thugs who want to impose their view on others.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/what-daesh-mean-isis-threatens-6841468
What does 'Daesh' mean?
Daesh is an acronym for the Arabic phrase al-Dawla al-Islamiya al-Iraq al-Sham (Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant).
Essentially, it's another word for ISIS - but apparently one that ISIS militants do not favour.
Why? Because it is similar to the Arabic words 'Daes', 'one who crushes something underfoot' and 'Dahes', translated as 'one who sows discord'.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-35904425
The views that Daesh hold against sports are (unsurprisingly.) incredibly extreme, supposedly football is also homosexual. Just last year about a dozen people were executed via firing squad for watching Iraq play in the Asian cup on TV.
Sadly it isn't the first, and wont be the last. Something really must be done, simply because it seems shameful that the world watches on whilst these atrocities are committed. That sentiment is a fat lot of good for those affected though.
Sunni / Shia are not the same. According to Independent below, 85% of Muslims are Sunni.
There's a map in the wikipedia article below. Turkey / Africa / Pakistan / Majority of Saudia Arabia, Malaysia are Sunni. Iran / parts of population of Afghanistan, Majority of Bahrain's population, small bit of Saudi & Yemen are Shia.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/sunni-and-shia-islams-1400-year-old-divide-explained-a6796131.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia–Sunni_relations
There's also a lot of domestic atrocities in lots of places that we never get to hear of. Nigeria - Boko Haram, Al Shabab, Somalia , Taliban, Al Qaeda, Daesh are Sunni. The majority suffering atrocities are are muslims from both denominations, probably mostly Sunni's themselves.
Not discounting bad things carried out by some Shia groups such as Hezbollah. The Houthi's in Yemen are more a nationalist group. I don't know a whole heap about that so won't comment on that. Some read it as a proxy war between Saudi Arabia & Iran.
The Saudi Wahabi religion is extremely conservative. That is a contributory factor. The situation in the country is complex as the ruling Saudi elite made a deal with the Americans which is not uniformly supported by many in the country. Saudi itself has had a lot of domestic terrorism to deal with.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Saudi_Arabia
The western support for various regimes back regimes that they can control / influence. It is often an alliance with a group who can then maintain power & their strategic interests align with the West.
Sadaam Hussein paid lip service to the Sunni religion and was initially backed by the Americans in the war against Iran (who America was / is angry with due to US embassy hostage / Israel / controlling the Oil etc).
When the Americans rolled into Iraq to kick out Sadaam as he stopped being compliant, they dismantled the Iraqi state and disenfrachised the Iraqi Sunni population, largely to make money for Haliburton/US companies. The Iraqi government then became dominated by Shia's with a big influence from Iran, who didn't build bridges with the Iraqi Sunni population. All this let the Sunni Jihadists in via the chaos that formed & provided a back drop from which Daesh could fill the vacuum.
In Syria & Iraq many of the most strictest Daesh members come from outside of these areas from Pakistan or Saudi and are disliked by many of the indigenous of the area. Sunni populations Iraq / Syria in general are not keen on Daesh, mostly the populations in these areas are just ordinary people trying to live their lives caught up in the madness. People receive lashes for smoking or wearing the wrong length of trousers & other minor infringements. Its no way to live.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-32831854