The thread about Boxing

shine166

chasing the KO after the first knock down done AJ in, thought it was game over and used up his energy 

Croydon

Lololololol so sad to be happy to see British fighter lose, but this what Hearn has created. 

scabbyhorse

Is he Bruno in disguise? At least Frank got into the ring with Tyson

Chris_from_Sidcup

ValleyGary said:

Hahahahaha absolutely awesome. Really dislike AJ.

Always said Fury beats him. Would love to see Hearn’s face this morning.

Don't understand this mindset. Why would you want a British fighter to lose?
As far as i can see Joshua is a polite, well spoken, humble guy, nothing really dislikable about him.

Unless you dislike him simply because he's with Eddie Hearn?

Greenie Junior

I never want to see a British fighter lose to a foreigner. However I’d be a lot more upset if Fury lost to Ruiz. And if Fury vs Joshua ever happens and Fury wins I’d be ecstatic. 

The reason people have negative views on AJ is because boxing fans knows he’s a complete hype job whose been able to cherry pick his fights, wanked off by Adam smith and Hearn to bring casuals to the sport who shout you down if you try point out the times he’s looked vulnerable and that his victory against an over the hill klitchko wasn’t that impressive 

AJ losing is brilliant for boxing, it means the big fights in the division are much More likely to happen and the casuals might fuck off for a bit.

Hope AJ comes back from it and this could be the catalyst to really get the division going in the direction it should have been. 

Gravesend_Addick

hoof_it_up_to_benty

AJ has been overhyped - where does he go from here?

Greenie Junior

hoof_it_up_to_benty said:

AJ has been overhyped - where does he go from here?

Has to win the rematch and stay relevant. If he loses the rematch, it’ll be a AJ vs Whyte and then winner faces winner of fury vs wilder 

hoof_it_up_to_benty

Greenie Junior said:

hoof_it_up_to_benty said:

AJ has been overhyped - where does he go from here?

Has to win the rematch and stay relevant. If he loses the rematch, it’ll be a AJ vs Whyte and then winner faces winner of fury vs wilder 

Having been so comprehensively beaten by Ruiz the aura round AJ has gone - can't see a way back. Not sure how much he fancies it.

mendonca

hoof_it_up_to_benty said:

AJ has been overhyped - where does he go from here?

Back to "the gym?" 

Chris_from_Sidcup

Anyone see in the ring after when they were interviewing Ruiz? The camera cut to Joshua's dad who was having a right go at Eddie Hearn with Joshua trying to calm him down. Love to know what he was saying.

stackitsteve

https://twitter.com/anthonyfjoshua/status/1135068457874145281?s=21

Team AJ. Far too many hangers on imo

Carter

This is going to sound obvious, Joshua does not like being hurt. As soon as he was caught on his nose that completely distracted him and removed any stride he may have been in as it did in the Takam and Povetkin fights. He also never regained his footing after the first knockdown, if you watch his feet and legs they are bandy and as much as I am a cynic about Joshua and the media job done on him by Hearn he does have solid footwork normally. 

Fair play to Ruiz he boxed well and set traps that Joshua absolutely walked into 

snowinberlin

seemed to me Joshua never recovered from a very good body shot, he was breathing heavy and puffing out his mouth guard

I think he can come back stronger, like when Lewis lost to Rahman, and Lewis never had that good a chin but was still a fantastic heavyweight. 

JT

Signed Parker just in time. The one who beat Ruiz. Although that was debatable at the time. 

Division is wide open. AJ looked beat before he got In the ring. 

Carter

snowinberlin said:

seemed to me Joshua never recovered from a very good body shot, he was breathing heavy and puffing out his mouth guard

I think he can come back stronger, like when Lewis lost to Rahman, and Lewis never had that good a chin but was still a fantastic heavyweight. 

Lewis had one of the best chins in boxing! His problem was concentrating, if you don't remember first hand it's worth looking on YouTube at his fights and see how well he took some enormous shots 

snowinberlin

DamoNorthStand said:

Fallen out of touch with boxing last few years but is this really the guy?! 

no it was this guy

SELR_addicks

AJ needs to stop worrying about all the press appearances and lifting weights/bulking. 

He needs a few months locked away with a few trainers to work on technique and coming down to a more natural weight. He'll be back to what he was before the fame. 

Or maybe he's made his money and just not bothered anymore. 

North Lower Neil

He seemed concussed from the temple shot in 3rd.

Fair play to Ruiz, got that shot in when the end seemed possible for him, and took advantage from there brilliantly.

Chris_from_Sidcup

North Lower Neil said:

He seemed concussed from the temple shot in 3rd.

Fair play to Ruiz, got that shot in when the end seemed possible for him, and took advantage from there brilliantly.

Quite possible. There's a video of AJ saying to the trainer at the end of the 5th "why am i feeling like this"

ValleyGary

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

ValleyGary said:

Hahahahaha absolutely awesome. Really dislike AJ.

Always said Fury beats him. Would love to see Hearn’s face this morning.

Don't understand this mindset. Why would you want a British fighter to lose?
As far as i can see Joshua is a polite, well spoken, humble guy, nothing really dislikable about him.

Unless you dislike him simply because he's with Eddie Hearn?

I have my reasons for not liking the bloke, I know for a fact he isn’t the humble innocent good boy his media circus will have people believe. I said the same thing a few years ago on this very thread. It does make it a lot sweeter that Hearns cash cow has milked itself dry overnight. 

I’m also not sure what him being British has to do with it either. Even if it did, I’d just equate him to being the Liverpool of boxing.

snowinberlin

ValleyGary said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

ValleyGary said:

Hahahahaha absolutely awesome. Really dislike AJ.

Always said Fury beats him. Would love to see Hearn’s face this morning.

Don't understand this mindset. Why would you want a British fighter to lose?
As far as i can see Joshua is a polite, well spoken, humble guy, nothing really dislikable about him.

Unless you dislike him simply because he's with Eddie Hearn?

I have my reasons for not liking the bloke, I know for a fact he isn’t the humble innocent good boy his media circus will have people believe. I said the same thing a few years ago on this very thread. It does make it a lot sweeter that Hearns cash cow has milked itself dry overnight. 

I’m also not sure what him being British has to do with it either. Even if it did, I’d just equate him to being the Liverpool of boxing.

I understand if you said that about amir Khan who has never been a world champion just everyone's favourite loser but I think this is a case of everyone wanting someone to fail cos we like to knock our sportsmen and women more than praising them in this country 

Carter

snowinberlin said:

ValleyGary said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

ValleyGary said:

Hahahahaha absolutely awesome. Really dislike AJ.

Always said Fury beats him. Would love to see Hearn’s face this morning.

Don't understand this mindset. Why would you want a British fighter to lose?
As far as i can see Joshua is a polite, well spoken, humble guy, nothing really dislikable about him.

Unless you dislike him simply because he's with Eddie Hearn?

I have my reasons for not liking the bloke, I know for a fact he isn’t the humble innocent good boy his media circus will have people believe. I said the same thing a few years ago on this very thread. It does make it a lot sweeter that Hearns cash cow has milked itself dry overnight. 

I’m also not sure what him being British has to do with it either. Even if it did, I’d just equate him to being the Liverpool of boxing.

I understand if you said that about amir Khan who has never been a world champion just everyone's favourite loser but I think this is a case of everyone wanting someone to fail cos we like to knock our sportsmen and women more than praising them in this country 

Khan has been a world title holder, Khan took some grief for his choice of opponents and got absolutely nailed by Prescott. He had changed trainer from Olly Harrison to Rubio and then to Freddy Roach and fought some very very decent opponents and went toe to toe with them. Nothing to do with being a favourite loser, he absolutely had it with Maidana who I thought he would steer clear of as well as Devon Alexander who was a very hard man. His problem is also not his whiskers, it's his concentration and a primal instinct to try and punch his way out of bother when he gets clipped as opposed to boxing and covering up and clinching 

Boxing fans get pissed off with hyped ticket sellers like Joshua and Khan and I have a degree of sympathy because its difficult to match them. Give them a Bulgarian journeyman they knock out and they are being fed dummies, if they fight a 80 fight professional journeyman and get taken the distance or stopped they have been hyped. Problem is promoters hold a lot of risk with boxing shows and rely on ticket selling fighters to enable them to earn a living. Ticket sellers like Joshua and Khan. 

As a nation we have produced some very capable boxers who have never had the breaks the poster boys and ticket sellers have. It wasn't until Hearn threw money behind Carl Froch that he started to make money from boxing whereas before he was slugging away for Mick Hennessy on ITV and various other channels and fighting absolutely everyone. 

Braziliance

Not a big fan at all of the casual remark in regards to boxing fans. Comes across right snobby. End of the day people have to start somewhere and if it's cause of a popular fighter so what? No one is born an expert everyone has to get into it somehow. It should be encouraged that more people want to watch, less fans = less money = less fighters/fights. It's worse than when you see them pilliocks on YouTube writing comments like 'I heard this song before loads of people!?' And? 

Anyway on to the AJ fight, didn't watch if I'm honest. Completely fell out of love with the sport once GGG was robbed the second time and fully put my fight time on MMA instead where the corruption is far less. 

I said to my mate I see two things with AJ, either he simply just looked the part but never had the heart. Fame, easy wins etc got to him almost Rocky3 like or he genuinely is a specimen and just had a bad night and can come back from this. Some fighters when they lose who are undefeated can find it hard to recover, when you're in the spotlight like that I imagine the attention can be draining and the pressure becomes too much. Others relish when they face a set back and it makes them a better person and fighter.

For AJ I hope it's the latter, I can see why people don't warm to him as he does come across a bit 'fake humble' but I personally think he's a a good egg that tries too hard to come across the nice guy. I wish him all the best on his bounce back 

Croydon

Braziliance said:

Not a big fan at all of the casual remark in regards to boxing fans. Comes across right snobby. End of the day people have to start somewhere and if it's cause of a popular fighter so what? No one is born an expert everyone has to get into it somehow. It should be encouraged that more people want to watch, less fans = less money = less fighters/fights. It's worse than when you see them pilliocks on YouTube writing comments like 'I heard this song before loads of people!?' And? 

Anyway on to the AJ fight, didn't watch if I'm honest. Completely fell out of love with the sport once GGG was robbed the second time and fully put my fight time on MMA instead where the corruption is far less. 

I said to my mate I see two things with AJ, either he simply just looked the part but never had the heart. Fame, easy wins etc got to him almost Rocky3 like or he genuinely is a specimen and just had a bad night and can come back from this. Some fighters when they lose who are undefeated can find it hard to recover, when you're in the spotlight like that I imagine the attention can be draining and the pressure becomes too much. Others relish when they face a set back and it makes them a better person and fighter.

For AJ I hope it's the latter, I can see why people don't warm to him as he does come across a bit 'fake humble' but I personally think he's a a good egg that tries too hard to come across the nice guy. I wish him all the best on his bounce back 

For me, the casual tag is used for those fans that only watch AJ but will still lecture you on the sport as if they know best. Same as the Surrey based Liverpool fans giving you a grilling about football despite only checking results on a Sunday to be able to chat about it on Monday.

nth_london_addick

stackitsteve said:

https://twitter.com/anthonyfjoshua/status/1135068457874145281?s=21

Team AJ. Far too many hangers on imo

This is a big part of the problem and has been spoken about by better and more knowledgeable people than me to him as of yet ignored 


however 

I am a complete obsessive when it comes to boxing and I watch it back over and over again until I can completely take in the break down of the fight . 

AJ is not right upon entrance to the ring there’s a delay of over 7 mins from his planned entrance timing 

he is having his neck massaged like you would after a concussive punch , at the end of rd one he clearly asks Rob mc what do I need to do 

this is after Rob has given him very simple instructions 

nothing is going in and if it is its not staying in , AJ has never been like that in any fight ever he has the game plan and knows how to execute it 

in rd 2 the same he is looking vacant and unsure of his plan 

something was not right this is pre knock downs sky capture it perfectly 

more to this a lot more 

Chris_from_Sidcup

nth london addick said:

stackitsteve said:

https://twitter.com/anthonyfjoshua/status/1135068457874145281?s=21

Team AJ. Far too many hangers on imo

This is a big part of the problem and has been spoken about by better and more knowledgeable people than me to him as of yet ignored 


however 

I am a complete obsessive when it comes to boxing and I watch it back over and over again until I can completely take in the break down of the fight . 

AJ is not right upon entrance to the ring there’s a delay of over 7 mins from his planned entrance timing 

he is having his neck massaged like you would after a concussive punch , at the end of rd one he clearly asks Rob mc what do I need to do 

this is after Rob has given him very simple instructions 

nothing is going in and if it is its not staying in , AJ has never been like that in any fight ever he has the game plan and knows how to execute it 

in rd 2 the same he is looking vacant and unsure of his plan 

something was not right this is pre knock downs sky capture it perfectly 

more to this a lot more 

Seen a rumour on twitter (so is most likely bollocks) that he wasn't right and his Dad wanted the fight called off, but Hearn insisted it went ahead to save the card, and that's the reason his dad was having a right go at Hearn in the ring. AJ though is seen defending Hearn and saying to his Dad "it's on me".

You're right, definitely more to this as he didn't look right all fight.

snowinberlin

I think we're not giving ruiz enough credit

He got up after his first ever knockdown and came back stronger and if you look at the moment he won the fight Joshua lands a massive right hook, didnt flinch. 

Maybe also being a stand in Joshua wasn't prepared for ruiz? 

nth_london_addick

snowinberlin said:

I think we're not giving ruiz enough credit

He got up after his first ever knockdown and came back stronger and if you look at the moment he won the fight Joshua lands a massive right hook, didnt flinch. 

Maybe also being a stand in Joshua wasn't prepared for ruiz? 

I totally disagree I give Ruiz all the respect in the world at the time of announcing I said it was terrible match making and I stick to that why put AJ in with a fast handed heavy hitting shorter fighter that’s everything he has been poor against his whole career 

however I fully expected AJ to blow him away after a few surprises through four or five rds 



I assure you there’s more too this a lot more and none of it will put Eddie or Rob Mc in a good light 

if AJ was not right as early as Friday from what I have been told just now then both of them have risked a mans life for nothing 

AJ ‘s dad will shout the loudest and it will all come out 

renember AJ is his own man if the contract is as water tight as I expect then this fight can happen without Hearn 

SoundAsa£

ValleyGary said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

ValleyGary said:

Hahahahaha absolutely awesome. Really dislike AJ.

Always said Fury beats him. Would love to see Hearn’s face this morning.

Don't understand this mindset. Why would you want a British fighter to lose?
As far as i can see Joshua is a polite, well spoken, humble guy, nothing really dislikable about him.

Unless you dislike him simply because he's with Eddie Hearn?

I have my reasons for not liking the bloke, I know for a fact he isn’t the humble innocent good boy his media circus will have people believe. I said the same thing a few years ago on this very thread. It does make it a lot sweeter that Hearns cash cow has milked itself dry overnight. 

I’m also not sure what him being British has to do with it either. Even if it did, I’d just equate him to being the Liverpool of boxing.

Sorry, but you have to be way more informative Gary.....anyone can say what you have about someone (particularly someone in the public eye), but without being more specific it’s purely unfounded hearsay.....you’re not stupid so I know you will realise that.
I like the fella and would ‘never’ wish to see a British fighter lose in the ring to a foreigner.
I and others, are hardly going to change our opinion of him just because you have some kind of ‘unspecified and undisclosed’ beef with the guy are we.
Not saying that that was necessarily your intention by the way.
In short, what dirt do you have on the guy to justify your apparent hatred that would significantly “rock the world of boxing journalism” from what you’re indicating . It’s a hatred that it would appear no one else seems to harbour or know anything about  ...........did he run over your cat?