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  • CAFCsayer said:
    Would absolutely love Bud to play the boss move and fight Benevidez and then retire
    Can't see that happening. What weight?
    Benavidez would have to move back down to 168. 
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,801
    CAFCsayer said:
    Would absolutely love Bud to play the boss move and fight Benevidez and then retire
    Can't see that happening. What weight?
    Benavidez would have to move back down to 168. 
    Which he has really struggled to make. His fight with Anthony Yarde could be explosive.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,272
    Benavidez is a big, big super middleweight. I can't see him wanting to give that weight away and potentially spend the night throwing punches at shadows. 

    Would be a huge fight for boxing fans but Benavidez isnt know by casuals 
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,242
    CAFCsayer said:
    Would absolutely love Bud to play the boss move and fight Benevidez and then retire
    Can't see that happening. What weight?
    Nor can i really... it would probably have to be at 168 but it would sell, be a huge money fight for benevidez and a legacy cemented for crawford
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,801
    Crawford's legacy is already cemented. Beating Benavidez wouldn't really add much.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,242
    Crawford's legacy is already cemented. Beating Benavidez wouldn't really add much.
    Fair assessment and I agree... just love how much it'd wind up canelo fanboys. He should probably retire and go out on a high, proved all there is to prove
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,106
    edited September 14
    CAFCsayer said:
    Would absolutely love Bud to play the boss move and fight Benevidez and then retire
    Can't see that happening. What weight?
    Benavidez would have to move back down to 168. 
    Which he has really struggled to make. His fight with Anthony Yarde could be explosive.
    Yeah i don't think it will happen, just saying that it would likely only happen if he moves back down to 168. Realistically i think unless he's going to rematch Canelo for $50-100m then Crawford will probably retire as he has nothing left to do.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,242
    CAFCsayer said:
    Would absolutely love Bud to play the boss move and fight Benevidez and then retire
    Can't see that happening. What weight?
    Benavidez would have to move back down to 168. 
    Which he has really struggled to make. His fight with Anthony Yarde could be explosive.
    Yeah i don't think it will happen, just saying that it would likely only happen if he moves back down to 168. Realistically i think unless he's going to rematch Canelo for $50-100m then he will probably retire as he has nothing left to do.
    Or go the circus route and fight Topuria... Probably not a coincidence that he came out to a Mariachi band playing Topuria's ring walk song in a fight promoted by Dana White
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,493
    Canelo has been over the hill since 2022/23. 

    Shame Crawford started so late in fighting top opponents. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,493
    Crawford's legacy is already cemented. Beating Benavidez wouldn't really add much.
    Huh? 

    A post car-crash Spence and an over the hill Canelo isn't a legacy. 

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  • Crawford's legacy is already cemented. Beating Benavidez wouldn't really add much.
    Huh? 

    A post car-crash Spence and an over the hill Canelo isn't a legacy. 
    I'd say that being undisputed champ in three weight classes is a pretty decent legacy. 
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,242
    Crawford's legacy is already cemented. Beating Benavidez wouldn't really add much.
    Huh? 

    A post car-crash Spence and an over the hill Canelo isn't a legacy. 
    Both are true world class opponents and he absolutely dismantled them... not giving enough credit there
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,493
    edited September 14
    CAFCsayer said:
    Crawford's legacy is already cemented. Beating Benavidez wouldn't really add much.
    Huh? 

    A post car-crash Spence and an over the hill Canelo isn't a legacy. 
    Both are true world class opponents and he absolutely dismantled them... not giving enough credit there
    Canelo was maybe 3 years ago. There's a reason he's been hand picking opponents for a while now. 

    Spence retired immediately after the fight because he was after that last payday once his body was severely injured. 

    Crawford great fighter but the idea his legacy is set is way too premature. 

    You have Beterbiev, Bivol, Ortiz jr, Alimkhanuly, Martinez/Mbilli winner all around waiting. Pick your weight class and let's see. 
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,242
    edited September 14
    CAFCsayer said:
    Crawford's legacy is already cemented. Beating Benavidez wouldn't really add much.
    Huh? 

    A post car-crash Spence and an over the hill Canelo isn't a legacy. 
    Both are true world class opponents and he absolutely dismantled them... not giving enough credit there
    Canelo was maybe 3 years ago. There's a reason he's been hand picking opponents for a while now. 

    Spence retired immediately after the fight because he was after that last payday once his body was severely injured. 

    Crawford great fighter but the idea his legacy is set is way too premature. 

    You have Beterbiev, Bivol, Ortiz jr, Alimkhanuly, Martinez/Mbilli winner all around waiting. Pick your weight class and let's see. 
    Why not throw usyk in the mix too? 

    He has just stepped up 3 weight classes and absolutely dismantled someone regarded as a top 5 p4p boxer by most people. I get it that he probably doesn't have the resume he should have, but he has made light work of everyone he has faced. He is also 2 years older than canelo

    If he carries on i think he will go down to 160 and try for 4 times undisputed, but the money fights are not really there as there aren't really any "names" that would have casuals buying the fight
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,493
    edited September 14
    CAFCsayer said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    Crawford's legacy is already cemented. Beating Benavidez wouldn't really add much.
    Huh? 

    A post car-crash Spence and an over the hill Canelo isn't a legacy. 
    Both are true world class opponents and he absolutely dismantled them... not giving enough credit there
    Canelo was maybe 3 years ago. There's a reason he's been hand picking opponents for a while now. 

    Spence retired immediately after the fight because he was after that last payday once his body was severely injured. 

    Crawford great fighter but the idea his legacy is set is way too premature. 

    You have Beterbiev, Bivol, Ortiz jr, Alimkhanuly, Martinez/Mbilli winner all around waiting. Pick your weight class and let's see. 
    Why not throw usyk in the mix too? 

    He has just stepped up 3 weight classes and absolutely dismantled someone regarded as a top 5 p4p boxer by most people. I get it that he probably doesn't have the resume he should have, but he has made light work of everyone he has faced. He is also 2 years older than canelo

    If he carries on i think he will go down to 160 and try for 4 times undisputed, but the money fights are not really there as there aren't really any "names" that would have casuals buying the fight
    Who has Canelo still in the top 5 pfp after the past two years? 

    It's a good win but it's not Canelo in his prime. 

    Usually harder to move back down once you've moved up, so if he wants to defend these belts you've got Bivol/Beterbiev as the guys up there. 
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,801
    CAFCsayer said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    Crawford's legacy is already cemented. Beating Benavidez wouldn't really add much.
    Huh? 

    A post car-crash Spence and an over the hill Canelo isn't a legacy. 
    Both are true world class opponents and he absolutely dismantled them... not giving enough credit there
    Canelo was maybe 3 years ago. There's a reason he's been hand picking opponents for a while now. 

    Spence retired immediately after the fight because he was after that last payday once his body was severely injured. 

    Crawford great fighter but the idea his legacy is set is way too premature. 

    You have Beterbiev, Bivol, Ortiz jr, Alimkhanuly, Martinez/Mbilli winner all around waiting. Pick your weight class and let's see. 
    Why not throw usyk in the mix too? 

    He has just stepped up 3 weight classes and absolutely dismantled someone regarded as a top 5 p4p boxer by most people. I get it that he probably doesn't have the resume he should have, but he has made light work of everyone he has faced. He is also 2 years older than canelo

    If he carries on i think he will go down to 160 and try for 4 times undisputed, but the money fights are not really there as there aren't really any "names" that would have casuals buying the fight
    Who has Canelo still in the top 5 pfp after the past two years? 

    It's a good win but it's not Canelo in his prime. 

    Usually harder to move back down once you've moved up, so if he wants to defend these belts you've got Bivol/Beterbiev as the guys up there. 
    No, if he wants to defend the belts against them then they would have to come down to his weight from light-heavyweight.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,493
    CAFCsayer said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    Crawford's legacy is already cemented. Beating Benavidez wouldn't really add much.
    Huh? 

    A post car-crash Spence and an over the hill Canelo isn't a legacy. 
    Both are true world class opponents and he absolutely dismantled them... not giving enough credit there
    Canelo was maybe 3 years ago. There's a reason he's been hand picking opponents for a while now. 

    Spence retired immediately after the fight because he was after that last payday once his body was severely injured. 

    Crawford great fighter but the idea his legacy is set is way too premature. 

    You have Beterbiev, Bivol, Ortiz jr, Alimkhanuly, Martinez/Mbilli winner all around waiting. Pick your weight class and let's see. 
    Why not throw usyk in the mix too? 

    He has just stepped up 3 weight classes and absolutely dismantled someone regarded as a top 5 p4p boxer by most people. I get it that he probably doesn't have the resume he should have, but he has made light work of everyone he has faced. He is also 2 years older than canelo

    If he carries on i think he will go down to 160 and try for 4 times undisputed, but the money fights are not really there as there aren't really any "names" that would have casuals buying the fight
    Who has Canelo still in the top 5 pfp after the past two years? 

    It's a good win but it's not Canelo in his prime. 

    Usually harder to move back down once you've moved up, so if he wants to defend these belts you've got Bivol/Beterbiev as the guys up there. 
    No, if he wants to defend the belts against them then they would have to come down to his weight from light-heavyweight.
    You're right. I thought Bivol moved down and not Canelo moving up. 

    Guess it's Mbilli/Martinez in that weight division. Imagine Crawford goes back down for Ortiz jr. 
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,801
    CAFCsayer said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    Crawford's legacy is already cemented. Beating Benavidez wouldn't really add much.
    Huh? 

    A post car-crash Spence and an over the hill Canelo isn't a legacy. 
    Both are true world class opponents and he absolutely dismantled them... not giving enough credit there
    Canelo was maybe 3 years ago. There's a reason he's been hand picking opponents for a while now. 

    Spence retired immediately after the fight because he was after that last payday once his body was severely injured. 

    Crawford great fighter but the idea his legacy is set is way too premature. 

    You have Beterbiev, Bivol, Ortiz jr, Alimkhanuly, Martinez/Mbilli winner all around waiting. Pick your weight class and let's see. 
    Why not throw usyk in the mix too? 

    He has just stepped up 3 weight classes and absolutely dismantled someone regarded as a top 5 p4p boxer by most people. I get it that he probably doesn't have the resume he should have, but he has made light work of everyone he has faced. He is also 2 years older than canelo

    If he carries on i think he will go down to 160 and try for 4 times undisputed, but the money fights are not really there as there aren't really any "names" that would have casuals buying the fight
    Who has Canelo still in the top 5 pfp after the past two years? 

    It's a good win but it's not Canelo in his prime. 

    Usually harder to move back down once you've moved up, so if he wants to defend these belts you've got Bivol/Beterbiev as the guys up there. 
    No, if he wants to defend the belts against them then they would have to come down to his weight from light-heavyweight.
    You're right. I thought Bivol moved down and not Canelo moving up. 

    Guess it's Mbilli/Martinez in that weight division. Imagine Crawford goes back down for Ortiz jr. 
    He's 38 in 2 weeks. I don't see why he would bother and once again there's a
    weight difference to deal with.
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,684
    RIP Ricky 

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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,493
    Best fighter on the planet Inoue just won this morning also. 
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,272
    Best fighter on the planet Inoue just won this morning also. 
    Now he is a monster 

    Felt like an age ago he battered Jamie McConnell and has looked better every single time since 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,499
    Crawford nothing short of sublime.
    Walked out like he was heading down the shop for a paper. Not a care in the world.
    I thoght he pretty much schooled Canelo in the ring. As the smaller man against a fighter of that calibre is insane.
    The fella is a phenom.
    Best in the business.
    He should walk away. Nothing left to prove. Fought the best and beat the best up and down weights.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,493
    This Allen - Makhmdov fight is best described as agricultural. 
  • Blackheathen
    Blackheathen Posts: 6,668
    Any thoughts on Parker v Wardley on Saturday?  Am hoping Jo’s experience will be enough.
  • brownbear
    brownbear Posts: 84
    I can't get the Wardley vs Hunni fight out of my thoughts. Hunni schooled him for eleven rounds, hit and moved beautifully and made Wardley look a bit silly at times. Can't help thinking that Parker is a step too far for Wardley, and a nasty stoppage could be on the cards.
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,801
    I don't think Wardley is in Parker's class. He can bang though.
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,801
    The undercard for Saturday night is really underwhelming.
  • Milan
    Milan Posts: 84
    This is a massive step up for Wardley, I think his only chance is a lucky shot that gets him the knockout. I'd fancy Parker to win by stoppage in 6-8 rounds.

    I'm actually going to this, it's my first "big" heavyweight fight since Bruno vs Ferguson in 1994.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,493
    Think Wardley has a puncher's chance but not much more than that.