A hell of a lot of money lost (and won by bookies) on first or second round KO. Who was the promoter? Frank? What Frank Warren? Really?? Well I never...
Mentioned the moment this fight was announced how farcical it was. Yet certain people tried to justify it by claiming how useful it would be to Fury because it gives him a chance to 'be in a training camp' and 'prepare for a fight' again.
Anyone who knows Fury and boxing will understand, and will have seen from tonight, that these are the least of his worries. What he needs to find again is his timing and his movement - which he won't have got one iota of from this fight.
Biggest loser's once again are the general public who fell for the marketing, and fell for the hype and spent a lot of money watching this.
Sure he will find another tomato can next and the same people will part with the same money to watch that.
The certain people you refer to were right as is the point you make.
I don’t personally think anyone’s a loser from it, the hype around the fight was for the return of Fury it was never touted as a potential great fight. I genuinely think if you’re disappointed with what happened then it’s you’re own fault Cos a lot of people who know their boxing knew what to expect, sat back and took it for what it was.
What I think they were expecting (for a guy trying to shake off years of ring-rust) was a few more punches thrown and a bit less clowning and dancing.
He’s had his issues and it’s good to see him back I guess (if only for his own well being) - but from a boxing perspective I do not see how last night’s bout progressed his comeback at all.
What I think they were expecting (for a guy trying to shake off years of ring-rust) was a few more punches thrown and a bit less clowning and dancing.
He’s had his issues and it’s good to see him back I guess (if only for his own well being) - but from a boxing perspective I do not see how last night’s bout progressed his comeback at all.
That’s a fair point and I don’t think you’re wrong. Hopefully the next opponent is of a greater stature and we can see a bit of a contest. Last nights build up, camp, being under the lights etc all would have done him good in one way or another as NLA has said.
What I think they were expecting (for a guy trying to shake off years of ring-rust) was a few more punches thrown and a bit less clowning and dancing.
He’s had his issues and it’s good to see him back I guess (if only for his own well being) - but from a boxing perspective I do not see how last night’s bout progressed his comeback at all.
We will learn more in the next weeks , Tyson saying he is back out in August means no break in camp , from what I saw i worry more about the Ben Davidson hook up now than I did before many things in the Tyson armory that didn’t look right
What I think they were expecting (for a guy trying to shake off years of ring-rust) was a few more punches thrown and a bit less clowning and dancing.
He’s had his issues and it’s good to see him back I guess (if only for his own well being) - but from a boxing perspective I do not see how last night’s bout progressed his comeback at all.
We will learn more in the next weeks , Tyson saying he is back out in August means no break in camp , from what I saw i worry more about the Ben Davidson hook up now than I did before many things in the Tyson armory that didn’t look right
That's all I could think watching the fight. I'd love to see him back working with his uncle
If you Frank Warren you must have woke up this morning thinking what am I doing? How desperate do I have to be for a pound note?
40 years in the game culminating in putting on a mis-matched circus with a backdrop of hundreds of fighting travellers. Where’s your self credibility?
Or am I being too harsh?
That’s the business model in a nut shell , he ain’t in it for the love of boxing if honest I don’t think he actually enjoys the boxing part anymore or if he ever did
I have always thought the warren boxing brand was a front for something for other people
It’s a dirty dark world where there is a very big network of wrong uns in one place with a common interest
What I think they were expecting (for a guy trying to shake off years of ring-rust) was a few more punches thrown and a bit less clowning and dancing.
He’s had his issues and it’s good to see him back I guess (if only for his own well being) - but from a boxing perspective I do not see how last night’s bout progressed his comeback at all.
We will learn more in the next weeks , Tyson saying he is back out in August means no break in camp , from what I saw i worry more about the Ben Davidson hook up now than I did before many things in the Tyson armory that didn’t look right
That's all I could think watching the fight. I'd love to see him back working with his uncle
Was worse than I expected and worse than I thought ,
Tyson has great balance and footwork for someone that size they are probably his greatest gift last night that gift was no longer visible
What I think they were expecting (for a guy trying to shake off years of ring-rust) was a few more punches thrown and a bit less clowning and dancing.
He’s had his issues and it’s good to see him back I guess (if only for his own well being) - but from a boxing perspective I do not see how last night’s bout progressed his comeback at all.
We will learn more in the next weeks , Tyson saying he is back out in August means no break in camp , from what I saw i worry more about the Ben Davidson hook up now than I did before many things in the Tyson armory that didn’t look right
That's all I could think watching the fight. I'd love to see him back working with his uncle
Was worse than I expected and worse than I thought ,
Tyson has great balance and footwork for someone that size they are probably his greatest gift last night that gift was no longer visible
Why ain't he with his uncle anymore ? Any chance he will go back to him.
What I think they were expecting (for a guy trying to shake off years of ring-rust) was a few more punches thrown and a bit less clowning and dancing.
He’s had his issues and it’s good to see him back I guess (if only for his own well being) - but from a boxing perspective I do not see how last night’s bout progressed his comeback at all.
We will learn more in the next weeks , Tyson saying he is back out in August means no break in camp , from what I saw i worry more about the Ben Davidson hook up now than I did before many things in the Tyson armory that didn’t look right
That's all I could think watching the fight. I'd love to see him back working with his uncle
Was worse than I expected and worse than I thought ,
Tyson has great balance and footwork for someone that size they are probably his greatest gift last night that gift was no longer visible
Why ain't he with his uncle anymore ? Any chance he will go back to him.
I said before fight I had no inside knowledge but a lot of people on the boxing forum I go on saying Tyson was shot and that's why his uncle isnt training him...
What I think they were expecting (for a guy trying to shake off years of ring-rust) was a few more punches thrown and a bit less clowning and dancing.
He’s had his issues and it’s good to see him back I guess (if only for his own well being) - but from a boxing perspective I do not see how last night’s bout progressed his comeback at all.
We will learn more in the next weeks , Tyson saying he is back out in August means no break in camp , from what I saw i worry more about the Ben Davidson hook up now than I did before many things in the Tyson armory that didn’t look right
That's all I could think watching the fight. I'd love to see him back working with his uncle
Was worse than I expected and worse than I thought ,
Tyson has great balance and footwork for someone that size they are probably his greatest gift last night that gift was no longer visible
Why ain't he with his uncle anymore ? Any chance he will go back to him.
What I think they were expecting (for a guy trying to shake off years of ring-rust) was a few more punches thrown and a bit less clowning and dancing.
He’s had his issues and it’s good to see him back I guess (if only for his own well being) - but from a boxing perspective I do not see how last night’s bout progressed his comeback at all.
We will learn more in the next weeks , Tyson saying he is back out in August means no break in camp , from what I saw i worry more about the Ben Davidson hook up now than I did before many things in the Tyson armory that didn’t look right
That's all I could think watching the fight. I'd love to see him back working with his uncle
Was worse than I expected and worse than I thought ,
Tyson has great balance and footwork for someone that size they are probably his greatest gift last night that gift was no longer visible
Why ain't he with his uncle anymore ? Any chance he will go back to him.
Falling out between Tyson and hewie
That's a real shame. I still believe the Tyson fury who beat Klitchko would have beaten Joshua. But it appears we may not see that Tyson fury again.
What I think they were expecting (for a guy trying to shake off years of ring-rust) was a few more punches thrown and a bit less clowning and dancing.
He’s had his issues and it’s good to see him back I guess (if only for his own well being) - but from a boxing perspective I do not see how last night’s bout progressed his comeback at all.
We will learn more in the next weeks , Tyson saying he is back out in August means no break in camp , from what I saw i worry more about the Ben Davidson hook up now than I did before many things in the Tyson armory that didn’t look right
That's all I could think watching the fight. I'd love to see him back working with his uncle
Was worse than I expected and worse than I thought ,
Tyson has great balance and footwork for someone that size they are probably his greatest gift last night that gift was no longer visible
Why ain't he with his uncle anymore ? Any chance he will go back to him.
Falling out between Tyson and hewie
That's a real shame. I still believe the Tyson fury who beat Klitchko would have beaten Joshua. But it appears we may not see that Tyson fury again.
Billy Joe realised quickly enough that Davidson was no good
My only hope is that Tyson is using Ben to get fit and find his enjoyment back in the game through fun and fitness
What I think they were expecting (for a guy trying to shake off years of ring-rust) was a few more punches thrown and a bit less clowning and dancing.
He’s had his issues and it’s good to see him back I guess (if only for his own well being) - but from a boxing perspective I do not see how last night’s bout progressed his comeback at all.
We will learn more in the next weeks , Tyson saying he is back out in August means no break in camp , from what I saw i worry more about the Ben Davidson hook up now than I did before many things in the Tyson armory that didn’t look right
That's all I could think watching the fight. I'd love to see him back working with his uncle
Was worse than I expected and worse than I thought ,
Tyson has great balance and footwork for someone that size they are probably his greatest gift last night that gift was no longer visible
Why ain't he with his uncle anymore ? Any chance he will go back to him.
Falling out between Tyson and hewie
That's a real shame. I still believe the Tyson fury who beat Klitchko would have beaten Joshua. But it appears we may not see that Tyson fury again.
Billy Joe realised quickly enough that Davidson was no good
My only hope is that Tyson is using Ben to get fit and find his enjoyment back in the game through fun and fitness
Not sure on Ricky Hattons role in all this
Was thinking the same thing about BJS the other day, he talks so highly of Jamie Moore, but would that type of trainer be able to work with Tyson Fury?
When you hear him talk (and you know the bloke mate), he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that would easily defer to anyone else, or take instruction easily. Happens with a lot of Boxer/Trainer relationships, where eventually the boxer feels that he knows as much as the trainer - so why keep giving him the 10%?
That is all well and good in some cases, but has Tyson Fury developed enough knowledge and expertise from ONE World Title fight, to be able to mastermind his own comeback?
The next fight will be another stiff, but it will be fights 3 and 4, when he will need to turn the quality up a bit more, and fighters in the mix by then like Haye, Price, Bellew and Ortiz etc will not be easily pushed aside with as little resistance as the guy at the weekend!!
If you Frank Warren you must have woke up this morning thinking what am I doing? How desperate do I have to be for a pound note?
40 years in the game culminating in putting on a mis-matched circus with a backdrop of hundreds of fighting travellers. Where’s your self credibility?
Or am I being too harsh?
That’s the business model in a nut shell , he ain’t in it for the love of boxing if honest I don’t think he actually enjoys the boxing part anymore or if he ever did
I have always thought the warren boxing brand was a front for something for other people
It’s a dirty dark world where there is a very big network of wrong uns in one place with a common interest
There’s plenty of things I could say about Frank but they ain’t for putting on a public forum.
If you Frank Warren you must have woke up this morning thinking what am I doing? How desperate do I have to be for a pound note?
40 years in the game culminating in putting on a mis-matched circus with a backdrop of hundreds of fighting travellers. Where’s your self credibility?
Or am I being too harsh?
That’s the business model in a nut shell , he ain’t in it for the love of boxing if honest I don’t think he actually enjoys the boxing part anymore or if he ever did
I have always thought the warren boxing brand was a front for something for other people
It’s a dirty dark world where there is a very big network of wrong uns in one place with a common interest
There’s plenty of things I could say about Frank but they ain’t for putting on a public forum.
I think they are very well known but def not for a public forum
What I think they were expecting (for a guy trying to shake off years of ring-rust) was a few more punches thrown and a bit less clowning and dancing.
He’s had his issues and it’s good to see him back I guess (if only for his own well being) - but from a boxing perspective I do not see how last night’s bout progressed his comeback at all.
We will learn more in the next weeks , Tyson saying he is back out in August means no break in camp , from what I saw i worry more about the Ben Davidson hook up now than I did before many things in the Tyson armory that didn’t look right
That's all I could think watching the fight. I'd love to see him back working with his uncle
Was worse than I expected and worse than I thought ,
Tyson has great balance and footwork for someone that size they are probably his greatest gift last night that gift was no longer visible
Why ain't he with his uncle anymore ? Any chance he will go back to him.
Falling out between Tyson and hewie
That's a real shame. I still believe the Tyson fury who beat Klitchko would have beaten Joshua. But it appears we may not see that Tyson fury again.
Billy Joe realised quickly enough that Davidson was no good
My only hope is that Tyson is using Ben to get fit and find his enjoyment back in the game through fun and fitness
Not sure on Ricky Hattons role in all this
Was thinking the same thing about BJS the other day, he talks so highly of Jamie Moore, but would that type of trainer be able to work with Tyson Fury?
When you hear him talk (and you know the bloke mate), he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that would easily defer to anyone else, or take instruction easily. Happens with a lot of Boxer/Trainer relationships, where eventually the boxer feels that he knows as much as the trainer - so why keep giving him the 10%?
That is all well and good in some cases, but has Tyson Fury developed enough knowledge and expertise from ONE World Title fight, to be able to mastermind his own comeback?
The next fight will be another stiff, but it will be fights 3 and 4, when he will need to turn the quality up a bit more, and fighters in the mix by then like Haye, Price, Bellew and Ortiz etc will not be easily pushed aside with as little resistance as the guy at the weekend!!
He could def Work with jamie Moore and that’s the bit I am looking at with Ricky hatton what’s his role I hope to find out soon enough as I am meeting with Isaac and Ben Davidson hopefully before they head off to Camp or in one of the days he comes back
Ben has no gym and no affiliation to a gym he is MGM which is a good thing in some ways and bad in others
Jamie Moore and Steve Wood have a very good exclusive little Gym at the back of VIP plumbing supplies in Manchester
And they are in a good place but I think the Tyson should go to the Ingle Gym personally and he will be able to get the best of both worlds from there
So disappointed in the fight on Saturday, first 2 rounds were pointless. The person fighting was also a joke, he couldn't land a punch if he was fighting for a week. Fury - Didn't really come out with any positives, might of wanted more rounds but 1st 2 was all showboating and not doing anything. Also the guy didnt come out after the 4th was very planned.
hopefully next fight he has is a bit of a step up (well it can only be that way), can see him fighting Bellew which i dont see him being troubled but can be Bellews final payday.
AJ or any of the others will not be losing any sleep just yet, but still early days will take 18 months at least to get there and i do wonder who they are lining up for a world title shot by the end of the year?
PS- dont even get me started on the fight in the audience, standard for a fury fight its pathetic
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There were more punches thrown in my living room than in the ring!
That was the Harlem Globetrotters playing basketball.
After the blood and guts of Flanagan and Hooker that was embarrassing.
Couldn't Frank Warren find a big rope a dope ?
I don’t personally think anyone’s a loser from it, the hype around the fight was for the return of Fury it was never touted as a potential great fight. I genuinely think if you’re disappointed with what happened then it’s you’re own fault Cos a lot of people who know their boxing knew what to expect, sat back and took it for what it was.
What I think they were expecting (for a guy trying to shake off years of ring-rust) was a few more punches thrown and a bit less clowning and dancing.
He’s had his issues and it’s good to see him back I guess (if only for his own well being) - but from a boxing perspective I do not see how last night’s bout progressed his comeback at all.
Last nights build up, camp, being under the lights etc all would have done him good in one way or another as NLA has said.
Let’s see what happens in the next one.
40 years in the game culminating in putting on a mis-matched circus with a backdrop of hundreds of fighting travellers. Where’s your self credibility?
Or am I being too harsh?
I'd love to see him back working with his uncle
I have always thought the warren boxing brand was a front for something for other people
It’s a dirty dark world where there is a very big network of wrong uns in one place with a common interest
Tyson has great balance and footwork for someone that size they are probably his greatest gift last night that gift was no longer visible
Any chance he will go back to him.
I still believe the Tyson fury who beat Klitchko would have beaten Joshua.
But it appears we may not see that Tyson fury again.
My only hope is that Tyson is using Ben to get fit and find his enjoyment back in the game through fun and fitness
Not sure on Ricky Hattons role in all this
Was thinking the same thing about BJS the other day, he talks so highly of Jamie Moore, but would that type of trainer be able to work with Tyson Fury?
When you hear him talk (and you know the bloke mate), he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that would easily defer to anyone else, or take instruction easily. Happens with a lot of Boxer/Trainer relationships, where eventually the boxer feels that he knows as much as the trainer - so why keep giving him the 10%?
That is all well and good in some cases, but has Tyson Fury developed enough knowledge and expertise from ONE World Title fight, to be able to mastermind his own comeback?
The next fight will be another stiff, but it will be fights 3 and 4, when he will need to turn the quality up a bit more, and fighters in the mix by then like Haye, Price, Bellew and Ortiz etc will not be easily pushed aside with as little resistance as the guy at the weekend!!
I think they are very well known but def not for a public forum
Ben has no gym and no affiliation to a gym he is MGM which is a good thing in some ways and bad in others
Jamie Moore and Steve Wood have a very good exclusive little Gym at the back of VIP plumbing supplies in Manchester
And they are in a good place but I think the Tyson should go to the Ingle Gym personally and he will be able to get the best of both worlds from there
Also agreed a rematch in the USA.
Hearn has previously said he has a date booked at Wembley for September but any later than that would have to go to Cardiff for the roof.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/44455690
Fury - Didn't really come out with any positives, might of wanted more rounds but 1st 2 was all showboating and not doing anything. Also the guy didnt come out after the 4th was very planned.
hopefully next fight he has is a bit of a step up (well it can only be that way), can see him fighting Bellew which i dont see him being troubled but can be Bellews final payday.
AJ or any of the others will not be losing any sleep just yet, but still early days will take 18 months at least to get there and i do wonder who they are lining up for a world title shot by the end of the year?
PS- dont even get me started on the fight in the audience, standard for a fury fight its pathetic