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Loft Conversion Advice

Hoping to tap into the mine of expertise on here. Just moved into a new leasehold flat and want to convert the loft (which is already demised to my property rather than being classed as a communal area) into an extra bedroom.

Flat is in a conservation area, so I will need planning permission from the council. Next door is converting their loft at the moment, so permission shouldn't be a problem. I'm just not sure what order the process goes in in terms of getting quotes, getting plans drawn up, getting permission from the freeholder and the council, etc. Do I need to employ an architect, or should a decent builder be able to draw up plans that can be submitted to the council as part of the application for planning permission and used as a template to work from when the building work finally starts?

Very grateful for any advice you can provide.

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  • If your neighbour's place is the same as yours, you may be able to use his plans. ;-)

    I'm not an expert, but I did consider a loft conversion recently - the first thing I did was get an architect round to draw up plans. The next stage after that would be to submit a planning application. Someone will surely correct me if I am wrong.
  • Polish Pete will do it next season in between starring as our main striker.
  • I have just had a loft conversion on my house and it has definitely been a learning curve!

    Generally speaking, you do not need planning permission but sounds like your situation is slightly different.

    You can employ loft conversion specialists who, generally speaking, will project manage and be responsible for plans, permissions, scaffolding and all the work including electrics, plastering and plumbing. We took the decision to take on the management ourselves and, although all has ended well, I wouldn't necessarily recommend it because you end up dealing with five or six different parties all of whom have differing opinions and different times of availability.

    If, however, you do want to use different companies, your first port of call should be an architect and, as well as drawing plans, he should also guide you through the legal side of things, the contact you require with the local council and also dealing with your neighbours who will need to sign a party wall agreement to give their consent to the works being carried out. Once that is all done, time to employ scaffolders, builders, electricians etc.

    I can recommend some firms who we used-if you do require details, please pm me and I'll be glad to assist.
  • MrLargo said:

    Hoping to tap into the mine of expertise on here. Just moved into a new leasehold flat and want to convert the loft (which is already demised to my property rather than being classed as a communal area) into an extra bedroom.

    Flat is in a conservation area, so I will need planning permission from the council. Next door is converting their loft at the moment, so permission shouldn't be a problem. I'm just not sure what order the process goes in in terms of getting quotes, getting plans drawn up, getting permission from the freeholder and the council, etc. Do I need to employ an architect, or should a decent builder be able to draw up plans that can be submitted to the council as part of the application for planning permission and used as a template to work from when the building work finally starts?

    Very grateful for any advice you can provide.

    One thing I would say, I note you say leasehold. Dependent on your lease, I would say you'd need to get permission from the freeholder for any changes to your property.

    I went through this last year when I had my gutters and soffets replaced on my 2 bed maisonette. May be very different for you but check your lease. In most cases, the freeholder wont give a shit but its your duty to inform them. The same if you ever decide to rent the property out.

    Can recommend Attoe Building Design for drawings, Gerry is the man to talk to. He's just done some drawings for us.
  • Plans for planning and freehold permission. Google the planning portal and type your neighbours address and copy theirs
  • @HandG where are you based? Considering loft conversion and if yr local-ish may well be after some recommendations (I'm Sidcup)
  • @Red Riding Hoodie I'm in Bexleyheath so all local firms who you could use too-happy to pass on details.

    Coincidentally I used Gerry Attoe as well for my plans-nice guy and a fellow Addick (although long since estranged).
  • Getting my loft converted soon.

    Mate of mine will be doing it. He's a good reliable builder if anyone needs him.

    He'll cover NW Kent and SE London

    http://acebuildingservices.net/index.html
  • Personally I wouldn't use an architect for a straightforward conversion but the downside of not having a plan is that the quotes you get will vary depending on the assumptions the contractor makes about what you want so you do need to be as clear as possible about that and also the constraints applicable because of the conservation area. You definitely need freeholder consent and, if terraced, party wall agreements with your neighbours too. Probably also with the leaseholder downstairs, although it shouldn't affect them so that shouldn't be too troublesome.

    Select your possible contractors from whoever works in your area (obviously) and gets good (credible) reviews on the internet, or word of mouth from people you trust.
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  • We used these people:

    http://www.metroloft.co.uk/loft-conversion-references.asp

    Of the three pieces of work we've had done (new garage, loft convertion, kitchen extension), this was by far the easiest, on schedule and good quality. They handled plans, planning permission, indeed everything. There were two minor issues that we asked them to address and they were dealt with immediately in good grace. I would suggest you don't sign up for the actual work until you've see the detailed plans, not just a general picture of what it will look like, even if this means you have to pay for the plans before they'll give them to you.
  • I've got a couple of friends who do a lot of this in west london.

    The party wall agreements are key, and if you pay a managing firm, you should be ok but if you try and manage yourself, they've seen a lot of overruns as the builders are paid to sit around doing nothing until the agreements are in place.

    Make sure you get really into the specification of the finish you expect and want to pay for particularly on the decoration. I would ask for professional plaster double skimmed, undercoat, two to three coats of Matt/silk and expensive paint in the bathroom if you are having one fitted. I'd also ask my decorator friend if I had it specified right and agree the cost was reasonable before I signed up to it.

    A firm like metroloft won't be the cheapest but it is what they do.
  • Had mine done a couple of years ago and went through the usual suspects, Econoloft etc but bloke round the corner from me was having it done by an independent guy who only does lofts. I ended up using him. Couldn't recommend him highly enough, worked his socks off and did a great job, he's doing a neighbours of mine right now and she's delighted with him so far. He's based in Eltham. Give me a shout if you want his number. He worked with a guy who drew up the plans.
  • edited April 2016
    Thanks very much to you all for the very helpful advice and recommendations, greatly appreciated.

  • It's unusual in a leasehold property to own the loft. Whilst applying to the freeholder it would be worth checking who is responsible for the roof.
  • It's unusual in a leasehold property to own the loft. Whilst applying to the freeholder it would be worth checking who is responsible for the roof.

    That's what I thought. Had my solicitor check it during the course of the conveyancing and it's definitely mine.
  • We used these people:

    http://www.metroloft.co.uk/loft-conversion-references.asp

    Of the three pieces of work we've had done (new garage, loft convertion, kitchen extension), this was by far the easiest, on schedule and good quality. They handled plans, planning permission, indeed everything. There were two minor issues that we asked them to address and they were dealt with immediately in good grace. I would suggest you don't sign up for the actual work until you've see the detailed plans, not just a general picture of what it will look like, even if this means you have to pay for the plans before they'll give them to you.

    I know Mark from Metropolitan Home Improvements, he is a customer of mine , he is a top bloke and I will use him when I get mine done in the future
  • JohnBoyUK said:

    MrLargo said:

    Hoping to tap into the mine of expertise on here. Just moved into a new leasehold flat and want to convert the loft (which is already demised to my property rather than being classed as a communal area) into an extra bedroom.

    Flat is in a conservation area, so I will need planning permission from the council. Next door is converting their loft at the moment, so permission shouldn't be a problem. I'm just not sure what order the process goes in in terms of getting quotes, getting plans drawn up, getting permission from the freeholder and the council, etc. Do I need to employ an architect, or should a decent builder be able to draw up plans that can be submitted to the council as part of the application for planning permission and used as a template to work from when the building work finally starts?

    Very grateful for any advice you can provide.

    One thing I would say, I note you say leasehold. Dependent on your lease, I would say you'd need to get permission from the freeholder for any changes to your property.

    I went through this last year when I had my gutters and soffets replaced on my 2 bed maisonette. May be very different for you but check your lease. In most cases, the freeholder wont give a shit but its your duty to inform them. The same if you ever decide to rent the property out.

    Can recommend Attoe Building Design for drawings, Gerry is the man to talk to. He's just done some drawings for us.
    And they sub contract to Bexley for Building Control, so shouldn't be too problematic getting sign off should you have any minor deviations from initial design.
  • just had our plans finally approved for our loft conversion, all plans and calculations were drawn up by an Architect and the council have finally approved after a bit of disagreement over the size. Have had one quote of £52k (from someone I know and trust) which feels a bit steep to me (it's a very big conversion though). They've worked on my house before and are excellent, however I wouldn't mind getting another couple before committing.

    Anyone got any contacts or work in this trade?
  • just had our plans finally approved for our loft conversion, all plans and calculations were drawn up by an Architect and the council have finally approved after a bit of disagreement over the size. Have had one quote of £52k (from someone I know and trust) which feels a bit steep to me (it's a very big conversion though). They've worked on my house before and are excellent, however I wouldn't mind getting another couple before committing.

    Anyone got any contacts or work in this trade?

    There are a couple of recommendations above for builders.

    A mate of mine used to specialise in loft conversions but his quotes went through the roof :smile:
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  • D, messaged you mate
  • Dan, metroloft, speak to Mark top geezer, they are very very good
  • Finally getting mine done using metroloft, half way through and very happy with the service, extremely professional and nothing is too much trouble.
  • I think @palarsehater is in that game.

    ; )
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