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Mail: Wilder wanted written guarantees, Charlton tore up contract

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  • colin1961 said:

    Not sure there's actually any truth in the Mail's story there. But shows how the club are viewed externally - people will believe that #cafc

    Louis Mendez

    strange tweet if he's not sure if it's true or not

  • colin1961 said:

    Not sure there's actually any truth in the Mail's story there. But shows how the club are viewed externally - people will believe that #cafc

    Louis Mendez

    strange tweet if he's not sure if it's true or not

    Oh that's a tweet for a minute I thought Louis had multiple usernames...
  • I'd be surprised if CW lived in Northampton.

    Anyway a foreign head coach is perfect because they will soon be able to fly into city airport for match days, 15 minutes to the ground via DLR and train, if they can be bothered to direct training when we have a first team coach, they can stay in the managers pitch sized bedsit built under the Jimmy Seed (or South if you are TK) stand.

    I'm sure I read that he lives in Sheffield.
  • It smells of the usual Daily Mail Bullshit.

    Smells like it's come from Wilder
  • colin1961 said:

    Not sure there's actually any truth in the Mail's story there. But shows how the club are viewed externally - people will believe that #cafc

    Louis Mendez

    Colin, can I ask you a question - do you genuinely think Duchatelet and Meire have been good for Charlton?
  • I think the bookies are in the wrong track with Nobby. Don't think he's in the running at all


  • Swisdom said:

    I think the bookies are in the wrong track with Nobby. Don't think he's in the running at all


    all depends how many other British managers turn it down. Another couple and they will resort to Nobby or the Spaniard.
  • Swisdom said:

    I think the bookies are in the wrong track with Nobby. Don't think he's in the running at all


    It's going to be Colin isn't it - assuming he's from England not Fantasy Island...
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  • Of course it's true. They had about 5 days to get him to sign on the dotted line, before Sheffield began sniffing around. If you want someone that badly you get the deal done. Roland and Katrien should have had the contract drafted before flying him over to Belgium. Amendments could then have been made over the next couple of days.
  • Of course it's true. They had about 5 days to get him to sign on the dotted line, before Sheffield began sniffing around. If you want someone that badly you get the deal done. Roland and Katrien should have had the contract drafted before flying him over to Belgium. Amendments could then have been made over the next couple of days.

    Katrien never seems to be in a rush to do anything.
  • I really cannot see how anyone with current employment could now consider the Charlton job, regardless of the cash on offer. How to screw up your cv......join Charlton for three months. Having said that there are probably some greedy sods out there after a quick wage rise.


  • rikofold said:

    colin1961 said:

    Not sure there's actually any truth in the Mail's story there. But shows how the club are viewed externally - people will believe that #cafc

    Louis Mendez

    Colin, can I ask you a question - do you genuinely think Duchatelet and Meire have been good for Charlton?
    He'll not answer the question.
  • edited May 2016
    I suspect that really Wilder knew of the interest from the Blades and either withdrew his interest in CAFC or made unreasonable demands .. we'll never know until the memoirs are written and even then the stories might be a load of old bollocks ((:>)
    Wilder is a northerner, lives up north, the Blades job offer would have been a no brainer for him and Knill, another with extensive 'northern' managerial experience
  • What I like is all the sources they've quoted. Usual Daily Mail clickbait bullshit.
  • I suspect that really Wilder knew of the interest from the Blades and either withdrew his interest in CAFC or made unreasonable demands .. we'll never know until the memoirs are written and even then the stories might be a load of old bollocks ((:>)
    Wilder is a northerner, lives up north, the Blades job offer would have been a no brainer for him and Knill, another with extensive 'northern' managerial experience

    As regards who may have made reasonable demands on whom I see CW as a man of ability and integrity. KM and RD on the other hand control Charlton Athletic Football Club PLC.
  • Typical daily mail botox
  • Missed It said:

    Of course it's true. They had about 5 days to get him to sign on the dotted line, before Sheffield began sniffing around. If you want someone that badly you get the deal done. Roland and Katrien should have had the contract drafted before flying him over to Belgium. Amendments could then have been made over the next couple of days.

    Katrien never seems to be in a rush to do anything.
    Except to go on holiday :-)
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  • RobRob
    edited May 2016
    Let's face it, Charlton nowadays is not exactly a plum job. Whatever happened, I'm sure he was very attracted to the Sheff Utd job. Didn't he play for them and also, isn't he from up North? I wouldn't take too much notice on the spin put on it by the Daily mail.
  • Rob said:

    Let's face it, Charlton nowadays is not exactly a plum job. Whatever happened, I'm sure he was very attracted to the Sheff Utd job. Didn't he play for them and also, isn't he from up North? I wouldn't take too much notice on the spin put on it by the Daily mail.

    Well I categorically believe that NO truth comes out of "their " mouths.

    It's against my religion.

    :smile:



  • No no no, do not reply to this, he is baiting you
  • Nothing to see here....
  • If you deep freeze shit to close to absolute zero? Is it possible to then polish a turd?

    (Note for foreign readers this is not a racist joke relating to people from Poland but rather a querie regarding the polishing process and whether this can also be achieved at sub zero temperatures.

    I did a degree in materials science and technology and am considering applying for a doctorate.

    My view is you can reliably polish a turd but the expense involved and the effort means you are better off not bothering and rather throwing the ties away and getting a stone, which is easier to polish if you fancy that sort of thing.

    (Have better uses for liquid nitrogen.)
  • edited May 2016
    colin1961 said:

    rikofold said:

    colin1961 said:

    Not sure there's actually any truth in the Mail's story there. But shows how the club are viewed externally - people will believe that #cafc

    Louis Mendez

    Colin, can I ask you a question - do you genuinely think Duchatelet and Meire have been good for Charlton?
    He'll not answer the question.
    Well they not bankrupt us unlike Hulyer TJ and Slater and they not moved us out the valley to another ground like Gilksten and Fryer .....
    They not sold players behind the managers back or brought players without relegation release clauses in them ...which again put the club on the brink of disaster ...like our friend Murray . But at the moment they are all we have as no one else despite a lot of chat have come forward , if they do and have the backing to take the club forward then fine I will welcome them with open arms.

    * But I would rather have a club to support with RD in charge then not have a club at all ......

    One thing for sure this club has been in darker and more serious situations then we are in now ... We will bounce back ........


    I'm feeling quite tense, at the lack of tense...

    * Feel free to pick any of the other network clubs, preferably Ujpest.

    PS. I'd be prepared to bet no-one has ever signed a player with a "relegation release clause in them" either, sounds painful to me.
  • vff said:

    T said:

    The Mail are normally very pro Charlton and have a decent contacts at the club. Most of that comes down to the Collins connection, while i appreciate the fact Patrick has now retired. I'd trust the Mail on all things CAFC ahead of all the other nationals.

    I don't like Daily Mail politics but where Charlton are concerned, the Mail has been pretty fair to Charlton over the years.

    There may be some element of the Mail's general anti EU politics at play. Wilder may have preferred the Sheffield Utd job and Charlton may have not exactly ripped the contract up. But the contract may have not included the guarantees that WIlder was seeking that was agreed verbally.

    Meire said that WIlder had signed a contract and that doesn't stack up. Lennie Lawrence did not get far with Duchatelet in outlining the control he wanted. Given the general dissembling of Meire, I think it is likely that the when Wilder pressed the issue that the guarantees he wanted were not there. That would fit in with Duchatelet finding it impossible to loosen control. Its Ochams Razor - that the most likely explanation is the one that is mostly going to be true.

    We will find out if and when a half decent manager comes along and wants the same level of control that WIlder asked for.
    I think the wording was "Wilder had signed an agreement", not a contract. What is the difference I am not sure, but obviously not legally binding, unless KM is lying, and I cannot believe she would do that, surely
  • Sadly for us It's Roland's way or the highway,which is why the traffic around SE7 has been clogged up over the last few months.

    No, that was the sit down protest.
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