#24hoursmeire - CARD twitter storm NOW!!
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Got it, thanks - so because pv has now spoken with rd she can make out that he said he wants to move from the valley - she could have made out they had spoken after the emails 6 months ago though - they were claiming not up for sale then as she is now - I reckon she has done it to flush Murray out0
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She has previous. Pretty much everytime she opens her mouth to be precise!!!!!FFS!!!!!Bill_Stumps said:It is unfortunate that Katrien gulps and stumbles over her words at the crucial point. I would slightly tweak the transcription as follows: "As we said in the past, the club is not for sale and we had several approaches from alleged buyers before, including the one of Mr Varney. But somebody.....S’proposal like that includes a move away from The Valley and Roland Duchatelet knows how important it is for fans that Charlton plays at The Valley."
If she is not referring to the Peter Varney led approach why has she not made that clear?2 -
Is the LIAR banner still intact for next season?2
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Here's a question:
WHY THE HELL WOULD A POTENTIAL BUYER BOTHER TO ADMIT THEY WOULD WANT TO LEAVE THE VALLEY?
Why does the idea or intent of that have to be brought up?
Why would that even be the current owners business?
Admitting that kind of crap sounds like something Katrien would do.
The whole thing is one huge joke.5 -
Didn't that yank that has bought into palace state that he would want to leave the valley whilst talking to the club about a potential takeover?Dave2l said:Here's a question:
WHY THE HELL WOULD A POTENTIAL BUYER BOTHER TO ADMIT THEY WOULD WANT TO LEAVE THE VALLEY?
Why does the idea or intent of that have to be brought up?
Why would that even be the current owners business?
Admitting that kind of crap sounds like something Katrien would do.
The whole thing is one huge joke.0 -
Very good points.Dave2l said:Here's a question:
WHY THE HELL WOULD A POTENTIAL BUYER BOTHER TO ADMIT THEY WOULD WANT TO LEAVE THE VALLEY?
Why does the idea or intent of that have to be brought up?
Why would that even be the current owners business?
Admitting that kind of crap sounds like something Katrien would do.
The whole thing is one huge joke.
So in 'Katrien-World' we meant to believe that a potential buyer being represented by Peter Varney would disclose to Duchatelet during 'talks about talks' that his plan was to move the club away from the valley - and all this against a back drop of season long fan protests when such a plan would be likely would inflame supporters even more....
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Yes.micks1950 said:
Very good points.Dave2l said:Here's a question:
WHY THE HELL WOULD A POTENTIAL BUYER BOTHER TO ADMIT THEY WOULD WANT TO LEAVE THE VALLEY?
Why does the idea or intent of that have to be brought up?
Why would that even be the current owners business?
Admitting that kind of crap sounds like something Katrien would do.
The whole thing is one huge joke.
So in 'Katrien-World' we meant to believe that a potential buyer being represented by Peter Varney would disclose to Duchatelet during 'talks about talks' that his plan was to move the club away from the valley - and all this against a back drop of season long fan protests when such a plan would be likely would inflame supporters even more....
Hmm.....
For me this just has Richard Murrary horsesh*t written all over it.
It's a strange one either way.3 -
Has she said 'sorry Peter yet?'1
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Words from squirrel face are meaningless. Let's see the f****** emails!3
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It does beg the question though, would we prefer to lose The Valley if it meant getting RD and KM out of the club?1
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No not now the network strategy is over and probably not even if it wasn't - there's no smoke without fire and as I've repeated - where were all these great owners when the club was actually up for sale - twice1
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No it doesn't.kings hill addick said:It does beg the question though, would we prefer to lose The Valley if it meant getting RD and KM out of the club?
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Sadly yes. As I believe RD will always be involved with The Valley (spelling disaster/no future for the club), so I'd very sadly take leaving if it meant ridding ourselves of this scum.kings hill addick said:It does beg the question though, would we prefer to lose The Valley if it meant getting RD and KM out of the club?
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How long to go?0
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Not sure why you think this is such a profound question. There were various interested parties in 2009-10 and in 2013. None of the credible ones proceeded in 2009-10, mainly because they went elsewhere (the economy was also a factor generally), and the spivs were asking too much money until the last gasp - more than twice what RD eventually paid. If they'd sold at the same price earlier there were other interested parties, but they weren't going to give the spivs a profit.DOUCHER said:No not now the network strategy is over and probably not even if it wasn't - there's no smoke without fire and as I've repeated - where were all these great owners when the club was actually up for sale - twice
We're currently aware of one potential buyer who Varney represents - there are others around but we have no evidence of their credibility. The fact that one buyer is around now who wasn't six and three years ago isn't evidence of anything.
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if they are that interested, why don't they make themselves known? hiding behind varney? if varney's a problem for whatever reason why don't they speak direct to rd like varney now has? None of us liked the spivs once the money was pulled and none of us like the douchatalet thing but how do we know we'll like the next lot? Put up a manifesto I say. whats happened to the email exchange being published?0
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Thinking about it, asking Varney to do your bidding may not have been the best of ideas considering how much those partly calling the shots seem to have an axe to grind against him.DOUCHER said:if they are that interested, why don't they make themselves known? hiding behind varney? if varney's a problem for whatever reason why don't they speak direct to rd like varney now has? None of us liked the spivs once the money was pulled and none of us like the douchatalet thing but how do we know we'll like the next lot? Put up a manifesto I say. whats happened to the email exchange being published?
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Richard, stop taking it all so personally!DOUCHER said:if they are that interested, why don't they make themselves known? hiding behind varney? if varney's a problem for whatever reason why don't they speak direct to rd like varney now has? None of us liked the spivs once the money was pulled and none of us like the douchatalet thing but how do we know we'll like the next lot? Put up a manifesto I say. whats happened to the email exchange being published?
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I can't - its become personal now - everybody thinks I'm blocking something and because I've been around for ten years and overseen the slump its now all my fault - those who jumped ship and didn't put there hands in there pockets are all seen as the saviours. A bit like players who are injured and not in the team - always seem like the saviours until they get back in the team and then everybody realises they're not. If there were so many buyers around why was I having to put my hand in my pocket to keep the club afloat for so long and how comes we ended up with 2 basket case owners - all my fault I guess? The whole ten year slump is because I fell out with peter varney over something? righto.....mrbligh said:
Richard, stop taking it all so personally!DOUCHER said:if they are that interested, why don't they make themselves known? hiding behind varney? if varney's a problem for whatever reason why don't they speak direct to rd like varney now has? None of us liked the spivs once the money was pulled and none of us like the douchatalet thing but how do we know we'll like the next lot? Put up a manifesto I say. whats happened to the email exchange being published?
btw - I do not claim to be Richard Murray - for the avoidance of doubt! - but would like to go to football next year and put the protests to one side for a while. she obviously hasn't upset me as much as you lot. Blimey, ignore her and him for a bit can't you?0 -
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exactly - if thats the case then there must be a reason why they don't go to rd directly, particularly now the experiment is over and it looks like a salvage / sale job - load of nonsensecarly burn said:
Thinking about it, asking Varney to do your bidding may not have been the best of ideas considering how much those partly calling the shots seem to have an axe to grind against him.DOUCHER said:if they are that interested, why don't they make themselves known? hiding behind varney? if varney's a problem for whatever reason why don't they speak direct to rd like varney now has? None of us liked the spivs once the money was pulled and none of us like the douchatalet thing but how do we know we'll like the next lot? Put up a manifesto I say. whats happened to the email exchange being published?
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Lets assume you own a house.
It's not for sale but if the right offer came in you never know. It needs some work and you don't like the area much.
Then Bill Gates knocks on the door and says "I want to buy your house"
You think, "Bloody hell, it's Bill Gates, he's loaded" so even though you know the house is only worth £500k you ask for £1m. He can afford it, right. Next thing your neighbours have seen and their offering Bill their houses, it's in the paper and Bill gets a bit pissed off and walks away.
And that's why some very rich potential buyers of football clubs, and many other types of businesses, don't announce that they are interested and go through front men who know the business sector in question, like Peter Varney.
They make sure there are non-disclosure agreements in place before it gets at all serious and things like price and moving the business to a new location even get mentioned (if at all).3 -
we know all that Henry but if you've been trying for 6 months and the intermediary 'seems to be' the problem, why don't they try a different approach????0
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Henry Irving said:
Lets assume you own a house.
It's not for sale but if the right offer came in you never know. It needs some work and you don't like the area much.
Then Bill Gates knocks on the door and says "I want to buy your house"
You think, "Bloody hell, it's Bill Gates, he's loaded" so even though you know the house is only worth £500k you ask for £1m. He can afford it, right. Next thing your neighbours have seen and their offering Bill their houses, it's in the paper and Bill gets a bit pissed off and walks away.
And that's why some very rich potential buyers of football clubs, and many other types of businesses, don't announce that they are interested and go through front men who know the business sector in question, like Peter Varney.
They make sure there are non-disclosure agreements in place before it gets at all serious and things like price and moving the business to a new location even get mentioned (if at all).
Is that the same Peter Varney that has strong links with Kuwaiti multi billionaires?
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surely peter varney will step aside and forgo his cut for the good of Charlton?0
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Maybe they don't see their intermediary as the "problem". Maybe it's Roland's intermediary who is the problem as evidenced from the previous email trail.DOUCHER said:we know all that Henry but if you've been trying for 6 months and the intermediary 'seems to be' the problem, why don't they try a different approach????
Maybe a CEO who would almost certainly lose the best job she'll ever get has a vested (and conflicted) interest in putting the kibosh on any proposed takeover.
But I don't know who the buyers are or what their motivation is. They trust Peter but if Peter thought that stepping aside and letting someone else do the brokering would help Charlton then I'd put good money on that being what he would do.
But there are only two things that are going to be proved here.
1. Varney's buyers didn't want to move from the Valley. He's already trashed that.
2. RD is willing to, at least, consider selling the club
Meanwhile, despite some people expecting instant resonses or huge revelations we will find out the next steps this PM just as KM is sitting down with all the other CEOs at the FL AGM in Portugal.7 -
That is pure Murray.DOUCHER said:surely peter varney will step aside and forgo his cut for the good of Charlton?
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agreed - so why does richard murray get so much stick on here? If we dismiss the blocking varney stuff thenwhy does everybody think he should have resigned is position rather than trying to influence from within?? Can it not just be that he is telling the truth?0
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Yes but I wouldn't assume that that mean these buyers are the same or similar. I have no idea but I wouldn't assume it.carly burn said:Henry Irving said:Lets assume you own a house.
It's not for sale but if the right offer came in you never know. It needs some work and you don't like the area much.
Then Bill Gates knocks on the door and says "I want to buy your house"
You think, "Bloody hell, it's Bill Gates, he's loaded" so even though you know the house is only worth £500k you ask for £1m. He can afford it, right. Next thing your neighbours have seen and their offering Bill their houses, it's in the paper and Bill gets a bit pissed off and walks away.
And that's why some very rich potential buyers of football clubs, and many other types of businesses, don't announce that they are interested and go through front men who know the business sector in question, like Peter Varney.
They make sure there are non-disclosure agreements in place before it gets at all serious and things like price and moving the business to a new location even get mentioned (if at all).
Is that the same Peter Varney that has strong links with Kuwaiti multi billionaires?0 -
NoDOUCHER said:agreed - so why does richard murray get so much stick on here? If we dismiss the blocking varney stuff thenwhy does everybody think he should have resigned is position rather than trying to influence from within?? Can it not just be that he is telling the truth?
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