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@DOUCHER not sure what has happened to you the last couple of weeks but feels like your increasingly using the board to pass the time / wind up others. Turn it in mate, we've got a full set of annoying wind ups at the mo as it is. We can go have a kick around over King George's if you're that bored :-)6
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Worst thing that's happening at the Euro's for me is every game I go to in France has numerous Palace fans there, should I "Russia" them ?3
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Do you think the Russians would have cared if the English were sober or not?MuttleyCAFC said:Here's a radical idea - accepting that we have had the wrong end of the policing and administering, why don't our fans try not getting totally pissed and being offensive! It isn't that hard really - you'd think asking them to adapt a bit to the conditions was like taking away their human rights to be ars**oles.
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I'm thinking about future skirmishesStu_of_Kunming said:
Do you think the Russians would have cared if the English were sober or not?MuttleyCAFC said:Here's a radical idea - accepting that we have had the wrong end of the policing and administering, why don't our fans try not getting totally pissed and being offensive! It isn't that hard really - you'd think asking them to adapt a bit to the conditions was like taking away their human rights to be ars**oles.
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Very naive comment, @MuttleyCAFC - lapping up the French defence of the indefensible. Yes, some England fans were having a drink, but I'd say the mix was about what you see at Charlton on an average Saturday - certainly on the day of the game, anyway. Many of the incidents were vicious, unprovoked attacks aimed at 'trophy gathering' - hence the attack I saw on a guy draped in a flag and someone else's report above re the Arsenal shirt. So if you genuinely want people to keep safe, then suggesting no colours would be more appropriate. It shouldn't be like that, thoughStu_of_Kunming said:
Do you think the Russians would have cared if the English were sober or not?MuttleyCAFC said:Here's a radical idea - accepting that we have had the wrong end of the policing and administering, why don't our fans try not getting totally pissed and being offensive! It isn't that hard really - you'd think asking them to adapt a bit to the conditions was like taking away their human rights to be ars**oles.
@Hastingsaddick We were just in Cassis for a couple of nights but thought it was a lovely wee place. Stayed in a local B&B -the French host went out of his way for us, driving us to the station for train to Marseille and saying we were to phone him if there were any problems.
Fortunately we got away ok after the match and got a taxi back thanks to a couple if English guys (or perhaps they were Welsh from accents) who took it upon themselves to marshall the taxi queue at the main station. Once again, total absence of anyone 'in authority' doing so - Glasgow is better organised on any run of the mill Fri/Sat night.
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No colours then - I want people to keep safe and I want them to avoid trouble even if they don't start it. I don't want us being kicked out of the tournament. And there are some scummy England fans out there - we can't deny that - even if they are the minority!1
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Glad you enjoyed Cassis....we were camping there so was nearer the train station....approx. 20 min walk.Weegie Addick said:
Very naive comment, @MuttleyCAFC - lapping up the French defence of the indefensible. Yes, some England fans were having a drink, but I'd say the mix was about what you see at Charlton on an average Saturday - certainly on the day of the game, anyway. Many of the incidents were vicious, unprovoked attacks aimed at 'trophy gathering' - hence the attack I saw on a guy draped in a flag and someone else's report above re the Arsenal shirt. So if you genuinely want people to keep safe, then suggesting no colours would be more appropriate. It shouldn't be like that, thoughStu_of_Kunming said:
Do you think the Russians would have cared if the English were sober or not?MuttleyCAFC said:Here's a radical idea - accepting that we have had the wrong end of the policing and administering, why don't our fans try not getting totally pissed and being offensive! It isn't that hard really - you'd think asking them to adapt a bit to the conditions was like taking away their human rights to be ars**oles.
@Hastingsaddick We were just in Cassis for a couple of nights but thought it was a lovely wee place. Stayed in a local B&B -the French host went out of his way for us, driving us to the station for train to Marseille and saying we were to phone him if there were any problems.
Fortunately we got away ok after the match and got a taxi back thanks to a couple if English guys (or perhaps they were Welsh from accents) who took it upon themselves to marshall the taxi queue at the main station. Once again, total absence of anyone 'in authority' doing so - Glasgow is better organised on any run of the mill Fri/Sat night.0 -
Fair comment - enough saidAFKABartram said:@DOUCHER not sure what has happened to you the last couple of weeks but feels like your increasingly using the board to pass the time / wind up others. Turn it in mate, we've got a full set of annoying wind ups at the mo as it is. We can go have a kick around over King George's if you're that bored :-)
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Match two will not be as violent as Match one was.
I expect we will win by a narrow margin and that'll be it until the French and Russian ultras arrive...
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and Russia given a suspended disqualification0
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As I have mentioned (too many times) I have a Spanner mate here in Prague. Director of international ad agency, in his 50s, but still a Spanner. He was in Marseille. Just got off the phone to him now he's safely back in Prague. Summary as follows
- he's veteran of Spanner games in the 70's (I yawned loudly at that point) but that was worse than anything he ever saw in those days
- totally insane to have the game scheduled at that time, (and place) and let our lot drink for 12 hours
- tactics of French police equally useless
- spontaneously said exactly what I said about the Russians being linked to the State in some way, and mentioned the Night Wolves as being part of the same thing, to 'send a message' in Putin's twisted way of thinking
- he was actually in the Russian end, albeit the other side from where they rushed the barrier. Said he had a load of 'Wall sitting behind him too, but all got out PDQ. Russian aggression totally indiscriminate and seriously violent.
Looks like the French have belatedly worked out what's going on there, anyway...
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Only if they cause problems inside the Stadiums though...rina said:and Russia given a suspended disqualification
So they're still allowed to travel to Lens and cause shit there!!0 -
This has been confirmed as correct.ForeverAddickted said:
Only if they cause problems inside the Stadiums though...rina said:and Russia given a suspended disqualification
So they're still allowed to travel to Lens and cause shit there!!
I hope those Slovakians are even more violent than the Rushkies.0 -
Be interesting if they're chucked out as to what happens to the World Cup.4
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Hi Weegie, my girlfriend was born and bred in Marseille, and working back there at the moment. Cassis is where she'd spend her summer holidays as a kid.Weegie Addick said:Stu_of_Kunming said:
Do you think the Russians would have cared if the English were sober or not?MuttleyCAFC said:Here's a radical idea - accepting that we have had the wrong end of the policing and administering, why don't our fans try not getting totally pissed and being offensive! It isn't that hard really - you'd think asking them to adapt a bit to the conditions was like taking away their human rights to be ars**oles.
@Hastingsaddick We were just in Cassis for a couple of nights but thought it was a lovely wee place. Stayed in a local B&B -the French host went out of his way for us, driving us to the station for train to Marseille and saying we were to phone him if there were any problems.
Fortunately we got away ok after the match and got a taxi back thanks to a couple if English guys (or perhaps they were Welsh from accents) who took it upon themselves to marshall the taxi queue at the main station. Once again, total absence of anyone 'in authority' doing so - Glasgow is better organised on any run of the mill Fri/Sat night.
Whenever it's my turn to visit, we always try to manage a couple of afternoons/evenings at Cassis - family friendly, and very pretty with it's colourful boats and little cafe-lined harbour, exactly what you'd expect from a seaside town in Provence.
I've been going there frequently during the past 6 years and really got to know the place.
It's a breath of fresh air compared to most of Marseille.
You made the right choice with Cassis.
Glad you stayed safe.
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It's why they won't be.ForeverAddickted said:Be interesting if they're chucked out as to what happens to the World Cup.
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I was thinking conspiracy meself, in one way or other, but weren't gonna say anything on here through risk of getting jumped on by one or all of the obvious knuckle dragging liberals of CL.PragueAddick said:As I have mentioned (too many times) I have a Spanner mate here in Prague. Director of international ad agency, in his 50s, but still a Spanner. He was in Marseille. Just got off the phone to him now he's safely back in Prague. Summary as follows
- he's veteran of Spanner games in the 70's (I yawned loudly at that point) but that was worse than anything he ever saw in those days
- totally insane to have the game scheduled at that time, (and place) and let our lot drink for 12 hours
- tactics of French police equally useless
- spontaneously said exactly what I said about the Russians being linked to the State in some way, and mentioned the Night Wolves as being part of the same thing, to 'send a message' in Putin's twisted way of thinking
- he was actually in the Russian end, albeit the other side from where they rushed the barrier. Said he had a load of 'Wall sitting behind him too, but all got out PDQ. Russian aggression totally indiscriminate and seriously violent.
Looks like the French have belatedly worked out what's going on there, anyway...
The video of the French gang entering the square and the geezer coming into picture picking up his pint; see the way the group of French WALK back down the street PAST the ob in full riot gear, the ob must've seen what went on before.....
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There's a crazy Russian P.O.V video doing the rounds, they're animals.0
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Nothing will happen. Too many palms have already been greased, too many pockets have been lined and too many FIFA Officials have got something to hide (all allegedly). They might have got rid of Blatter and Platini, but that organisation has barely changed at all.ForeverAddickted said:Be interesting if they're chucked out as to what happens to the World Cup.
It won't go beyond suspended sentences, fines and a couple of friendlies behind closed doors - token empty gestures.13 -
Seend a few of em folding in two an all, once a few England start giving back. If they are state sponsored, Putin ain't gonna be too impressed with that the flangeDazzler21 said:There's a crazy Russian P.O.V video doing the rounds, they're animals.
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Reckon this could be Escape To Victory in reverse, where a football game STARTS a world war....10
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Russia given a suspended disqualification!0
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Bit like when your mum used to tell you she'd take away your pocket money if you did something naughty, knowing fore well if she did you'd just go and cause more trouble.
Slap on the wrist and nothing more, unless they cause real damage inside of a stadium or murder outside of it then they will get away with it.0 -
"Knuckle dragging liberals" ... that's made my day
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If they cause any sort of trouble tomorrow I can't see how they'll get away with it. Even bringing in flares would be enough for me.Atletico Addick said:Bit like when your mum used to tell you she'd take away your pocket money if you did something naughty, knowing fore well if she did you'd just go and cause more trouble.
Slap on the wrist and nothing more, unless they cause real damage inside of a stadium or murder outside of it then they will get away with it.0
