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Yulin dog meat festival

Is under way in southern China.

Whilst I would try almost any food, dog would be a big no go, could anyone here bring themselves to try Dog?
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  • iamdan
    iamdan Posts: 2,425
    Had a few dogs in the past.
  • SpicedAddick
    SpicedAddick Posts: 737
    Stan Collymore?
  • SpicedAddick
    SpicedAddick Posts: 737
    Dogging doesn't seem like the best way to meet people.

    Oh, wait, "meat" not "meet".
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,799
    Only in a survival situation. I detest this practice, made even worse by the inhumane way a lot of these animals are tortured during the proccess.

    A truly insensitive race of people
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    You have probably already eaten dog and are not aware of it. Don't believe everything you read on food labels nowadays, the counterfeiters have infiltrated the food industry as well now
  • iamdan
    iamdan Posts: 2,425

    You have probably already eaten dog and are not aware of it. Don't believe everything you read on food labels nowadays, the counterfeiters have infiltrated the food industry as well now


    *puts down sausage sandwich*
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,451

    You have probably already eaten dog and are not aware of it. Don't believe everything you read on food labels nowadays, the counterfeiters have infiltrated the food industry as well now

    What you mean those Cadburys Chocolate Buttons that are given by owners to dogs aren't for the consumption of humans?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,564
    edited June 2016
    There's quite a few dog owners on here. A very inflammatory thread to post.

    Yulin is an illegal festival and is an outrage. It's a recent thing too, it hasn't been around forever, in fact almost only since the 60's or 70's.

    My dog's breed is one of the chief breeds stolen from it's owners and family in order to be cooked alive only to be eaten during this festival.

    I won't keep a cool head on this thread so will leave it on the note that it is a disgusting, merciless and barbaric festival which involves the the theft and inhumane cooking alive of actual pets.

    This also includes people's stolen cats, rabbits and other animals.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491

    You have probably already eaten dog and are not aware of it. Don't believe everything you read on food labels nowadays, the counterfeiters have infiltrated the food industry as well now

    I have no doubt that I, amongst the majority of meat eaters, have eaten many things that wasn't what it said it was.

    I couldn't knowingly eat dog regardless of how it was killed and cooked but certainly not at something like this.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Dazzler21 said:

    There's quite a few dog owners on here. A very inflammatory thread to post.

    Yulin is an illegal festival and is an outrage. It's a recent thing too, it hasn't been around forever, in fact almost only since the 60's or 70's.

    My dog's breed is one of the chief breeds stolen from it's owners and family in order to be cooked alive only to be eaten during this festival.

    I won't keep a cool head on this thread so will leave it on the note that it is a disgusting, merciless and barbaric festival which involves the the theft and inhumane cooking alive of actual pets.

    This also includes people's stolen cats, rabbits and other animals.

    Having owned dogs in the past i can assure you that I have not set out to upset/wind up anyone.

    With regards to the rest of the post, I don't believe that the festival is even that old , 6 or 7 years in fact.

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  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,595
    Yes, at least would try it. You're either a meat eater or not. It's only the culture you're brought up in that defines what type of hypocrite you are.
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    Don't understand those who are against eating dog. If you are a meat eater then as long as it isn't someone's pet or an endangered species then anything should go imo.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,190
    I'd eat dog if it was kept and killed in a humane way. No different to eating Rabbit/Chicken/Cow.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    For me it is purely a sentimental (for want of a better word) thing which is funny as I can't think of anything else I wouldn't at least try.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,092
    I think we all agree that cooking alive and torture of animals is bang out of order, but no difference between dog meat, horse meat, cow meat in my opinion.

    Bit like 'Dolphin friendly' tins of tuna. Dolphins are cute, so bad to kill them. Tuna are ugly, kill kill kill.
  • Had dog in Vietnam, its quite widely available in some of the markets out there. Although i don't agree with the way they kill the things it didn't offend me taste wise. Came out in a clay pot with some sort of garlic chillie broth. They've been eating it for as long as time, so let them get on with it.
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,187
    I deplore this festival and any others that are inhumane to animals of any kind. the chinese do seem inhumane of their treatment of animals and why I won't eat chinese food anymore!

    having said that, I'm sure they would point to our dairy industry and accuse us of being equally cruel. they may have a point.

  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948

    I'd eat dog if it was kept and killed in a humane way. No different to eating Rabbit/Chicken/Cow.

    Very good point Gaz, but in my opinion, the only way to ensure absolutely that the meat we eat has been kept and dispatched in a humane way is to either rear it ourselves, or go and get it from the wild ourselves. I've been shooting for years, and now we have a shed load of chickens etc, with a couple of sheep and/or goats to add soon, I hope to not be buying any meat at all from the supermarket within the next 2-3 years.

    As for eating dog; No, dog is probably the only meat I wouldn't go anywhere near, but as Gary said, I wouldn't be offended if others ate it as long as it was kept and dispatched in a humane way.
  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,405
    As a vegie I cannot see the difference between any animal bred for food. Although this one of eating dog is particularly sickening for me. We, (Europeans), in the west eat quite selectively and most of us would never ill treat a dog.
    I'm not even remotely an animal lover, just cant stand the thought or taste of meat.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    MrOneLung said:

    ........ but no difference between dog meat, horse meat, cow meat in my opinion.

    Or human meat. Meat is biologically all the same stuff, isn't it?


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  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,155

    I deplore this festival and any others that are inhumane to animals of any kind. the chinese do seem inhumane of their treatment of animals and why I won't eat chinese food anymore!

    having said that, I'm sure they would point to our dairy industry and accuse us of being equally cruel. they may have a point.

    They could also point to the huge amounts of people who protest against this horrible, horrible festival.

  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,069

    Only in a survival situation. I detest this practice, made even worse by the inhumane way a lot of these animals are tortured during the proccess.

    A truly insensitive race of people

    A truly insensitive race?

    As someone who is in fact ethnically Chinese, would it be unreasonable for me to call you out on how you've worded that? Cos quite frankly that sounds like a racial generalisation which I and many others would be unhappy with, if that was the case...

    But Yulin is a fucking abominable practice and I hope authorities are able to crack down.
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,366
    Won't even get in to my thoughts on Yulin as its already been said a few times above.

    As for eating dogs, though most people will try to say it's no different to eating a cow etc. as will veggies. There is a definite difference, saw an advert recently designed to make you think about where the 'line' of acceptable to eat is, cow, pigs, chicken one side then moved over to horse, rabbit, cat, dog, within a second I'd put the line by the horse. I'm sure some won't like it but I have no problem whatsoever eating a pig/ cow. I have no attachment to an animal like that, not to say I wouldn't try to help one if I saw it suffering but it doesn't even compare to a dog or cat
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,569
    Only as a matter of survival and even then I'd probably eye up the human first, likely more of a twat than the dog.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,092
    Oggy Red said:

    MrOneLung said:

    ........ but no difference between dog meat, horse meat, cow meat in my opinion.

    Or human meat. Meat is biologically all the same stuff, isn't it?

    If I was in a plane crash on The Andes would definitely eat human meat to survive.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,564
    edited June 2016
    PaddyP17 said:

    Only in a survival situation. I detest this practice, made even worse by the inhumane way a lot of these animals are tortured during the proccess.

    A truly insensitive race of people

    A truly insensitive race?

    As someone who is in fact ethnically Chinese, would it be unreasonable for me to call you out on how you've worded that? Cos quite frankly that sounds like a racial generalisation which I and many others would be unhappy with, if that was the case...

    But Yulin is a fucking abominable practice and I hope authorities are able to crack down.
    A very fair challenge, I liked the post based on everything above that line and to be honest, missed the final sentence.

    You can't pick out the entire race of people.

    It does seem in China there is a lot of insensitivity towards not only animals, but people too.

    Those are the videos that get shared on social media like the toddler that gets continually ignored whilst being hit by two separate vehicles:

    link to the story...

    This will no doubt be played down as some kind of media propaganda against the country, whilst it is unfortunately more of an issue that is spreading throughout the entire world.

    We are all becoming more insensitive to the things we see, it just seems some of the biggest nations in the world are already far more insensitive.

    That's the world returning to a more barbaric time and not solely those living in China.

    Won't even get in to my thoughts on Yulin as its already been said a few times above.

    As for eating dogs, though most people will try to say it's no different to eating a cow etc. as will veggies. There is a definite difference, saw an advert recently designed to make you think about where the 'line' of acceptable to eat is, cow, pigs, chicken one side then moved over to horse, rabbit, cat, dog, within a second I'd put the line by the horse. I'm sure some won't like it but I have no problem whatsoever eating a pig/ cow. I have no attachment to an animal like that, not to say I wouldn't try to help one if I saw it suffering but it doesn't even compare to a dog or cat

    I assume you mean this sign...

    image

    I think I generally agree, however I also don't eat lamb or veal.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Sometimes I wished I lived in Yulin - friggin dog in the flat next to me barks all the time.
    At least humans don't bark ...........
  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,595

    I deplore this festival and any others that are inhumane to animals of any kind. the chinese do seem inhumane of their treatment of animals and why I won't eat chinese food anymore!

    having said that, I'm sure they would point to our dairy industry and accuse us of being equally cruel. they may have a point.

    Exactly. There's no excuse for inhumane treatment of animals but any one of us who drinks milk is party to some despicable practices.
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 5,019

    Only in a survival situation. I detest this practice, made even worse by the inhumane way a lot of these animals are tortured during the proccess.

    A truly insensitive race of people

    Unfortunately I am inclined to agree. No other nation has done as much harm to wildlife worldwide, and it’s only getting worse because of improved wealth. From plundering precious woods in Madagascar which affects lemurs, to ivory, tiger parts, sun bear bile, orangutan shows and the sale of South American “finger monkeys”.

    The poor little (and largely unknown) pangolin is now the world’s most trafficked animal. Most have gone from Asia’s forests so they’ve moved onto pillaging Africa’s. Their meat is a delicacy and their scales have “healing powers.” Like rhino horns these are made from keratin, the same material as our fingernails.

    image

    I am a well travelled guy but I don’t ever want to visit China. Dogs are the tip of the iceberg.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,749

    Sometimes I wished I lived in Yulin - friggin dog in the flat next to me barks all the time.
    At least humans don't bark ...........

    You've obviously never been up The Venue on a Saturday night.